Last week, I wrote about how I thought that Tesla was getting chewed up by the Twitter fight between a New York Times reporter and Elon Musk, its famous and hard-to-control CEO. But as I looked at the test Tesla offered to put it through and thought more about the car a bit, I has another realization: The Tesla Model S and Fisker Karma would both be better off if they just swapped drivetrains.
I arrived at this conclusion after a conversation I had with Michael Dell (yes, that Michael Dell) some time ago on the Karma. Both he and I were looking to buy one, and decided not to for very different reasons: me because its performance sucked, and Dell because it needed weekly software updates (something I’d been unaware of).
In looking at both cars, it suddenly struck me that both the Model S and Karma have power plants completed mismatched to the rest of the car. Here’s what I mean.
The workhorse with the heart of a cheetah
When you look at the Tesla Model S, it looks like a high-end Japanese car. It has decent back-seat legroom; it has a very nice, tablet-like control center; it has been very reliable (so far); and it’s a car that you would likely want to use daily. Its performance (in the higher cost performance configuration) is in supercar territory, with a 0-to-60 time approaching 4 seconds or in line with a new Jaguar XK-RS.
On the other hand, as the problems last week illustrated, it really isn’t a great long-distance commuter. You’re better off driving it under 100 miles round trip, and charging it at home at night so you have plenty of power buffer. So while the car has the body and configuration of a touring car or long-distance commuter, it has the heart of a performance car that you’d only drive occasionally, and for short distances.
The cheetah with the heart of a workhorse
To look at the Fisker Karma is to lust for it. It has the design cues of an exotic, with a really long hood, huge wheels and tires, and a mean, aggressive posture. It sits so low the battery pack goes between the passengers, and like many exotics, it isn’t known for reliability. All the technology inside means you do have to struggle with a bit before you get a handle on it. Unlike the Model S, it uses an electric-hybrid drivetrain, so while it has the same published range of 300 miles, you can fill it with gas and take it on long trips. However, these issues with reliability and comfort suggest the Karma is really better suited for short hops. I’d doubt anyone would really want to drive it long distances, particularly far away from dealerships that could repair it.
Performance is lackluster for a supercar, with a 0-to-60 time around 6 seconds. A stock 2013 Honda Accord EX-L Coupe would pretty much dust it. This wouldn’t matter as much if you were driving a sedan like the Tesla S, that car doesn’t look like a racer, but the Fisker does. That means a lot of kids are going to be laughing at your expense from stop lights.
Heart transplant
If you put the Fisker Karma power plant in the Tesla Model S, you’d get performance in line with the base model and gas-car range consistent with the look and configuration of the car. You’d have a true luxury commuter. If you put the performance version of the Model S drivetrain in the Fisker Karma, you’d get an electric that could keep up with a Jaguar XK-R, and likely dust most performance cars at any light (electrics are particularly strong from 0 to 30mph). You’d likely drive it short distances, so the range thing wouldn’t be that important.
Power plants with purpose
In today’s world, a commuter car still makes more sense with either an ordinary gasoline engine, or a gas-electric hybrid configuration. But for an exotic, pure electrics are just fine, particularly if you are a bit of a stop-light racer. You can dust the other car before you exceed the speed limit, and since they’re quiet, your engine won’t be the one the cop hears. Unfortunately, the existing Tesla Model S and Fisker Karma have this configuration backwards. It’s a shame Fisker and Tesla separated, because clearly both cars could have been more compelling with a few features borrowed from one another.


Some journalists really do not know how to read and live in strange bubbles. Models S published range is 300 miles, practical range 260 miles. With free Superchargers coming online every 200 miles or less you can go to the …. MOON!!!!
Not a practical commute car? What are you? A truck driver?
What’s published range vs. practical range? Why not just go with practical range?
Published range is what you can get by putting it on max range setting (which charges the battery to 100% rather than 90%).
So you can use it if you absolutely need.
Gotcha, thanks for the clarification. So you should be able to go balls to the wall and still get 260 miles out of the sucker. Not sure why Broder had trouble with the car.
When to charge or drain a LiIon battery completely it shortens the life of the battery. According to Toyota if you keep from either completely filling or draining the battery you can massively extend their life. Given the batteries are the most expensive single component in the car making them last is important.
265 miles is the range at a constant 60 mph. If you go 75 mph the range is more like 210 miles. So the reality of driving the Model S along I5 from San Jose to LA is that it takes you 1 1/2 hours to drive the 115 miles between the supercharger stations and then you charge for 45 minutes to get enough range to reach the next one. Definitely doable, but not particularly convenient. On the other hand, normally you plug in the Model S at home overnight (like your iPhone) and have enough range to do any commuting/traveling during the day without having to worry about finding a charging station.
The official EPA rating for the 85-kWh Model S is 265 miles and that’s done in mixed driving without preference to any range-extending settings a car might have. Tesla originally quoted a 300-mile range, and they say the difference is due to a change in the testing procedure.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/one-car-two-ranges-tesla-claims-300-mile-model-s-will-be-epa-rated-at-265/
Thanks Stephen for clearing that up.
I think your article is mismatched:
The Tesla/NYT issue was so obviously tilted in Tesla’s favor, I’m starting to think it was a brilliant marketing campaign to have Broder drive it, pan it, and then body slam him with raw data.
As of now electric cars are for real and very practical. You can take a Model S, commute every day in it, and road trip from San Francisco to Los Angeles and back, or Boston to DC and back, with no trouble at all.
Musk got Tesla to where it is by ignoring naysayers and Just Did It. He ignored what cars are “supposed” to be, shooting for the ideal car.
“I’m starting to think it was a brilliant marketing campaign to have Broder drive it, pan it, and then body slam him with raw data.”
I know you didn’t really mean that because it’s an incredibly stupid statement.
And I don’t know anyone that would drive from SF to LA without feeling nervous regarding the range in a Tesla.
It’s great what Musk is doing, but we aren’t there yet. Close, but not yet.
Tesla range is just fine; is question was “Judgement” of Broder:
http://publiceditor.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/18/problems-with-precision-and-judgment-but-not-integrity-in-tesla-test/
And thanks for your assessment of my statement…
Now what would’ve happened if both of these companies got together and made a car?
They started off that way, Fisker was the initial designer of the Tesla S. He decided he could do a better job himself. I do think going the hybrid route made more sense initially and his design is certainly more impressive but Tesla had better quality and funding so I too wonder what would have happened had Tesla and Fisker remained connected.
You are way out of date with you comments on Fisker Karma reliability. Since Fisker’s last software update (Oct. 2012), my Karma has been 100% reliable and glitch-free. I’ve driven it 9000 miles in 13 months and love it.
You can confirm this sentiment with the experience of other owners on the FiskerBuzz forum. Check out the 90% customer satisfaction rating in this owner poll:
http://www.fiskerbuzz.com/forums/13-fisker-karma/1883-owners-only-what-your-current-overall-satisfaction-level-your-fisker-karma.html
Good to know, hadn’t talked to anyone who owned one since it got cold (we have a car thing every month but it shuts down from October to March).
Thanks for the input on owning this car Dennis. It’s very rare to find someone who owns these exotic EV vehicles and your testimony proves that your EV vehicle can do some serious business. Sometimes I think the media blows this way out of proportion so thanks again.