Comments on: BT Trials Phorm After Six-Month Delay http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/bt-trials-phorm-after-six-month-delay/ Upgrade Your Lifestyle Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:59:59 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Adelle http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/bt-trials-phorm-after-six-month-delay/#comment-57430 Adelle Mon, 27 Oct 2008 05:46:54 +0000 #comment-57430 [Quote]<br /> "The fact is [that Phorm] is something that is being welcomed by all of the websites we've spoken with"<br /> <br /> Utter twoddle! Kent may have spoken to a few websites himself, but is obviously taking no notice whatsoever of the webmasters opinions over this direct breach of copyright!<br /> <br /> This system copies the viewed web pages, without permission on the ISPs network, then passes the profiled information over to Phorm's servers to be used for financial gain. There is no consent from the webmasters whatsoever, and is in breach of copyright. I have not given permission for my websites and web apps to be profiled, yet even if I submit my websites so they are not used, THEY ARE STILL COPIED!<br /> <br /> Its wrong, very very wrong. [Quote]
“The fact is [that Phorm] is something that is being welcomed by all of the websites we've spoken with”

Utter twoddle! Kent may have spoken to a few websites himself, but is obviously taking no notice whatsoever of the webmasters opinions over this direct breach of copyright!

This system copies the viewed web pages, without permission on the ISPs network, then passes the profiled information over to Phorm's servers to be used for financial gain. There is no consent from the webmasters whatsoever, and is in breach of copyright. I have not given permission for my websites and web apps to be profiled, yet even if I submit my websites so they are not used, THEY ARE STILL COPIED!

Its wrong, very very wrong.

]]> By: RevRob http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/bt-trials-phorm-after-six-month-delay/#comment-57431 RevRob Mon, 27 Oct 2008 04:10:11 +0000 #comment-57431 By: Pete http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/bt-trials-phorm-after-six-month-delay/#comment-57432 Pete Mon, 27 Oct 2008 02:34:10 +0000 #comment-57432 Phorm is an audacious scam to conduct mass industrial espionage against UK ecommerce businesses and web sites, to strip firms of their customers and visitors.<br /> <br /> Phorm steal the content of web sites without the knowledge or consent of the creator. Then use the marketing intelligence to promote competitor sites.<br /> <br /> Never mind the bogus assertions that you can opt out... its supposed to be an opt in for consumers.<br /> <br /> To be legal, it should be opt in for web sites too. Good luck with that business plan.<br /> <br /> There is no was this should be tolerated in the UK, or any other democratic country. None at all. Phorm is an audacious scam to conduct mass industrial espionage against UK ecommerce businesses and web sites, to strip firms of their customers and visitors.

Phorm steal the content of web sites without the knowledge or consent of the creator. Then use the marketing intelligence to promote competitor sites.

Never mind the bogus assertions that you can opt out… its supposed to be an opt in for consumers.

To be legal, it should be opt in for web sites too. Good luck with that business plan.

There is no was this should be tolerated in the UK, or any other democratic country. None at all.

]]> By: Jonah http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/bt-trials-phorm-after-six-month-delay/#comment-57435 Jonah Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:51:00 +0000 #comment-57435 Hello NoddyPI I see you've been trawling the Web Again & denigrating those who have Real Concerns about the "Methods Used by this Technology?".<br /> <br /> Look at the Petition Website if you like, not everyone concerned has time to reply to your obfuscations of the facts or follow the story though.<br /> <br /> As someone who has viewed those pages in 2006 & 2007 & seen other events produced by these Profiler Systems (2008), I can assure others that the Software inside these DPI Boxes is basically "SPYWARE" Hello NoddyPI I see you've been trawling the Web Again & denigrating those who have Real Concerns about the “Methods Used by this Technology?”.

Look at the Petition Website if you like, not everyone concerned has time to reply to your obfuscations of the facts or follow the story though.

As someone who has viewed those pages in 2006 & 2007 & seen other events produced by these Profiler Systems (2008), I can assure others that the Software inside these DPI Boxes is basically “SPYWARE”

]]> By: NoddyPI http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/bt-trials-phorm-after-six-month-delay/#comment-57434 NoddyPI Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:31:58 +0000 #comment-57434 Hmmm, massive fallout and yet this article has garnered only 3 responses in a month.<br /> Someone's being economical with the truth, don't think it's BT though.<br /> Cue the usual suspects....... Hmmm, massive fallout and yet this article has garnered only 3 responses in a month.
Someone's being economical with the truth, don't think it's BT though.
Cue the usual suspects…….

]]> By: James Smudge http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/bt-trials-phorm-after-six-month-delay/#comment-57433 James Smudge Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:10:03 +0000 #comment-57433 Despite BT and Phorm's claims, they have not produced one shred of evidence that BT Webwise/Phorm is welcomed by customers or websites. Come on Kent and BT produce the evidence or shut up. Despite BT and Phorm's claims, they have not produced one shred of evidence that BT Webwise/Phorm is welcomed by customers or websites. Come on Kent and BT produce the evidence or shut up.

]]> By: Mike Calder http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/bt-trials-phorm-after-six-month-delay/#comment-57436 Mike Calder Wed, 01 Oct 2008 09:34:52 +0000 #comment-57436 The BT Help page for "Webwise" says:<br /> <br /> "Is my data still viewed when I am not participating?<br /> <br /> No. When you choose not to take the service, or switch BT Webwise off, it's off. Those who have opted out will not have their browsing information profiled. No information is gathered, and therefore no information is stored. Customers who opt out will not come into contact with any Phorm-managed equipment."<br /> <br /> Given the statement by a BT spokesdroid quoted by the BBC: "The web browsing traffic of those that "opt out" will pass through the Webwise system but will not be profiled or copied by it, he added. ", one gathers that BT is being, shall we say, economical with the truth. The BT Help page for “Webwise” says:

“Is my data still viewed when I am not participating?

No. When you choose not to take the service, or switch BT Webwise off, it's off. Those who have opted out will not have their browsing information profiled. No information is gathered, and therefore no information is stored. Customers who opt out will not come into contact with any Phorm-managed equipment.”

Given the statement by a BT spokesdroid quoted by the BBC: “The web browsing traffic of those that “opt out” will pass through the Webwise system but will not be profiled or copied by it, he added. “, one gathers that BT is being, shall we say, economical with the truth.

]]> By: Jane Hammond http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/bt-trials-phorm-after-six-month-delay/#comment-57437 Jane Hammond Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:42:18 +0000 #comment-57437 What rubbish, no consumer wants all their browsing habits being tracked by a spyware company.<br /> <br /> Phorm offer NOTHING to the consumer, the anti-phishing is a trojan horse. What rubbish, no consumer wants all their browsing habits being tracked by a spyware company.

Phorm offer NOTHING to the consumer, the anti-phishing is a trojan horse.

]]> By: Jane Hammond http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/bt-trials-phorm-after-six-month-delay/#comment-57438 Jane Hammond Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:42:18 +0000 #comment-57438 What rubbish, no consumer wants all their browsing habits being tracked by a spyware company.<br /> <br /> Phorm offer NOTHING to the consumer, the anti-phishing is a trojan horse. What rubbish, no consumer wants all their browsing habits being tracked by a spyware company.

Phorm offer NOTHING to the consumer, the anti-phishing is a trojan horse.

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