Microsoft Zune HD vs. Apple iPod Touch

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1. Buy Guaranteed Facebook Fans at 12:31am 28th November 2011 Website Trackback Link... [...]the time to read or visit the content or sites we have linked to below the[...]...
2. Andy Lightning at 12:42am 10th April 2011 iPod touch 4g FTW :D suckerzz
3. John at 11:40pm 25th March 2011 Amazon has a larger library than both zune and iTunes so saying that a device is better than another because because of the companies marketplace size is absurd because neither come near the size of library you get just purchasing CDs or using amazon. Let's keep the debates about the devices. Saying the ipod is better because of the apps is dumb as well. Being and iPhone user i can say 90 percent of the apps are a waste of time I mostly use it for quick web browsing on the fly. Individuals may debate saying the iPod has games and things that are fun may be their personal preference but I would never spend 200$ and higher to play angry birds I would rather pit that cash to a console or to a pc of sorts to play games on. The apps are a joke As far as which device triumphs in cost and practicality and technical specs there is no question the zune is the victor.
4. Chris Simmons at 2:58am 24th March 2011 obviously none of you have a 4th gen itouch,with a camera,voice control and ofcoarse!ANGRY BIRDS
5. Young BpB at 3:25pm 19th March 2011 APPLES IS #1!! apples has better games/apps. (I play cod zombies on my iPod touch and splinter cell, dead space, and more!) so what if zune's screen has better quality. It's all about size. Why look cool but be so small. iPod touch has lots of updates for its iOS. Plus iPod touch 4gen has a camera. Zune has nothing. iPod touches have built in speakers. Camera for video and pics. So many people have iPods that when you get a zune and your dating someone who has an iPod touch you can't do apps together. No video chat or app to app games. Who needs to use a iPod touch or zune for over 3 hours without it plugged in? Why not plug it in when your home or in the car so battery life! Haha who cares. Zune softwear is SLOW! iTunes is fast and better. ITunes music and movie choices are more then zune. More apps then zune. iPod touches have better sizes. Got a little kid like 6,7, or 8? Get them an iPod touch 8gig. They don't need much room. iPod touches connect to iPhone (sprint (I think) and verizon) iPod touches 1-4gen and iPads. Plus zune softwear can't work on apples computers but iTunes can work on all computers. Most people have been using iTunes since forever and have all their music on it. Why switch to zune and screw all your stuff up? Plus while zune hd is new and all apples is comming up with a new and better thing to beat it. So waist money on zune hd while I'll have the new and better iPod touch. IPOD TOUCH AND APPLES FOREVER!!!!!!
   1. Ricardo at 11:52pm 25th March 2011 Speaking about the size you do realize that htc hd7 using zune software for the media player has a 4.3 inch screen and the samsung infuse will have a 4.5 inch screen and my laptop has a 17 inch screen and my tv has. 42 inch screen so why complain about .2 inches you do realize how minuscule that is right? Both have good points and bad. But saying the zine has nothing regarding .2 inches is like saying my car is faster than yours because it has a quarter of a horse more. Or that one house is nicer than another because they planted five more flowers in the front yard. It's obvious that your a fanboy and there is no changing your mind but consider how stupid you sound making comments like that next time you post something.
6. John Bereczki at 6:07pm 3rd February 2011 For all you apple fanboys who are so in love with your apple products and think apple is so great! Well let me burst your bubble, Apple was NEVER the first to invent the first mp3 player so it just copied others like Audio Highway who brought out the first mp3 player, then South Korea-based Saehan Information Systems, then Diamond Multimedia with the Rio, Compaq, Creative and wait for it........ then Apple finally did in 2001! Yeah maybe made it look all pretty on the outside but nothing special on the inside, just another fashion accessory! That's why Apple is not as great as everyone thinks!!!!
7. wakawaka at 12:28pm 29th January 2011 I myself has never owned a touch, i have always owned zune/microsoft products. Yeah the zune hd is sweet (wouldn't mind owning one) but i have to lean towards apple on this one. the zune has a VERY small selection of apps (where 95% of their app are as worthless as apples) and the ipod, even though some are stupid, theres still like what? 50,000ish apps to choose from. to me a lot of which one you like better has a lot to do with what mp3 player you've previously owned.
8. Kronus980 at 12:34pm 12th January 2011 Aah.. iPod touch wins. Lol. Useless apps? Your opinion. Apparently apple and the Thousands of owners don't think they're so useless. Way more durable... Flimsy zune. It's laughable. They use a knock-off OS from windows phone, and iOS is it's own all out Operating System.
   1. John Bereczki at 10:02pm 3rd February 2011 Ah read the article again moron .. Zune wins for media experience, if you don't care about APPS but for Apps the icrap wins!! Talk about Flimsy, itouch or ipod isn't anything special as there were tons of mp3 players before Apple came out with theirs, they are the copy cats! They are useless, I'm sure lots of others would say the same thing! Maybe you should try it before you knock it ... MORON!
   2. Lupé at 11:59pm 25th March 2011 Serious if you've never owned a zune hd how can you say it's flimsy? They are both 8mm thick how durable can it possibly be and if you take care of your devices why would durability matter. Are you planning on driving over your device with a car for shits and giggles to test the durability.
9. steven at 6:48pm 25th December 2010 ipod touch is way way way way way better then the zune beacuse the 4th one has an cam and the crapy zune dosent plus YOU HAVE APPS!!!
   1. dave at 8:55am 8th January 2011 up 4 a bang????
   2. John Bereczki at 10:00pm 3rd February 2011 Get this, they aren't even the first ones to come up with the mp3 player! They are the copy cats:
   3. Black_Heart at 3:09pm 16th February 2011 The reason the Zune Hd doesnt have a camera is because it is a FIRST generation Zune Hd which means they will make more with better features
10. frozen99 at 10:27am 22nd December 2010 Enough of these idiots saying "these apple fanboys wont support their facts!" Boo hoo. The iPod Touch is still superior. There are way more apps on the iPod touch. Somewhere around 250,000. Even if there are way too many useless apps, Infinity blade, for instance, provides true gaming on a pocket-sized device. And no, I can't list all the great games, but i can give you a few: Pocket Legends, Infinity Blade, Call of duty, Racing Live, Rock Band Reloaded, and that's only a slight few! And to those that say the Zune is better for music, well, I have to say the iPod Touch plays the best music I have ever heard! And once I told a Zune fanboy that the iPod had a better browser and a camera, he said get a laptop and a digital camera. Can you fit a laptop and a camera in your pocket? Last time I checked, the answer was no. And the price, the ipod gives you way more "bang" for your buck. Keep your zunes, but I'm staying with my 4th gen iPod Touch 32gb that I wrote this comment with.
    1. Izaya at 12:40am 3rd January 2011 Your opinion is as objective as theirs, though. While the differences in sound quality are discreet, you saying "the iPod Touch plays the best music you have ever heard" is a perfect example of "apple fanboys not supporting their facts." I'm torn between the two devices, mainly because I want 32 GB but there's a $70 difference between the two. I may end up going with the Zune HD simply because I do not use iTunes, nor do I have plans to (tried it many times in my life, but never liked it - Winamp suits my tastes much better). I may, however, obtain an iPhone or similar Android phone in the future to handle all my organization, gaming and other miscellaneous tasks. For now, though, I may just stick with what's simple and cheaper. I'm a poor college student, so these choices will decide whether I eat something decent tomorrow night, or have to microwave another package of ramen noodles and pop a Vitamin C tablet. :P
       1. Frozen99 at 10:51am 3rd January 2011 Not to argue, but what I meant by "The iPod plays the best music I have ever heard" was that out of all the mp3 players I have ever listened to music out of, my iPod touch sounded the best in my opinion.
          1. Izaya at 8:27pm 3rd January 2011 Ah, that makes sense now. I'm waiting to see if Microsoft unveils its new secret "future of portable multimedia" device anytime soon and if it will be worth noting before making the purchase. Secretly, I hope it's worthwhile, since it'd be nice to get some new, fresh material into a market that's become so stale and monopolistic.
    2. John Bereczki at 10:09pm 3rd February 2011 Enough of morons like you who keep bragging about the apps, who cares if there are 250,000. Wow you want an award for that! At least I can think for myself and i'm not an isheep, oh lets buy an ipod cause everyone else has one, oh I'll be cool, i'll be like the rest of the crowd... why don't you just be a freakin' zombie! SO what if it has a better browser, long as it has internet access who CARESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!javascript:%20postComment(1); It works!!! You pay for the name, maybe you get more for your money but you also pay for joining a bunch of sheep who can't think for themselves. Keep your icrap and enjoy your Zombie nation!!! Oh by the way, your icrap isn't anything special as Apple copied others to come up with their mp3 player - they weren't the first, so YOU or APPLE aren't anything SPECIAL!!! I'm glad I have a zune and not be like you mindless Zombie's!!!!!!!!!!!!!
11. tyler at 2:32pm 2nd December 2010 nothing
12. Microsoft at 9:59am 27th November 2010 Zune is awsome...Microsoft is awsome and much better than the Apple!!!!!
13. The Dude Over There at 6:29pm 26th November 2010 Im Getting One for Chrostmas... O3O yayz!! (Im gettin a Zune not IPODTouch!) But idc wich i get... :D
14. Lethal at 6:38pm 2nd November 2010 I have the solution to all of this, buy both of them. They are both great devices to have. If one loses battery life switch to the other while the dead one is charging. Zune has fun games and Ipod has great apps, to many to count or to download for that matter. Also, they both are not easy to break, you can throw them down a 10 story building and they both survive. It's amazing!! Great products, just buy one and deal with it, be glad your not someone that has to buy a cheap mp3 player with no display and only 1 gb memory. seriously. :)
15. Letsdance09 at 10:21am 30th October 2010 Alot of me friends have ipod touches and they like them! But that is kind of person they are. They love mac. They are more of a apps people. They don't listen to music as much as they play games and browes the web. The new Zune hd as web and runs faster. My dad has a iphone and the internet sucks. The ipod touch is so much similar to the iphone that you might as well get a iphone. You just can't call on the ipod touch. My dad listens to his iphone rather than his zune just because he has his iphone on him all the time. If you don' have a phone get a zune hd. When you drive or on the go and what to listen to music zune hd is the choice. I am not a zune hd fan or a ipod touch fan,but I want to go with what will benifit me the most. I think the Zune hd will wor for me. I just think that the ipod touch is expensive and won't last as long has the zune hd. My brother has had his for 3 years now and runs perfect!
16. Letsdanc09 at 10:12am 30th October 2010 I want a good music player with web that i won't get bord with. I love music! It alll depends on what you like. Sure the I-pod touch has apps,but sooner or later you will get bord with them. With the zune hd you get unlimited music and Micorsoft will come out with more apps. You get a nargain with the zune hd. Are you afraid to go different then or friend? nIf you loe msic the Zune hd is the way to go. For the ipod touch is that the music is so expensive. If you like music,but you want to go with what yor friends are doing you will regret it because sometime you will spend you know like 2000 dollars for 2000 songs or more depending on the song. Sometime you will get bord with game on the ipod touch so why not go with the one that will benifit you more. My whole family has zunes and they love them! My brother loves music and he listens to his zune all the time. If he got a ipod touch then he wouldn't of gotten all that he loves. Like I said it depends on the kind of person you are.
    1. Letsdance09 at 12:31pm 30th October 2010 Sorry for my mistakes! I write fats and don't think about it!
17. datnewguy at 7:21pm 28th September 2010 if everyone likes the apps so much why doesn't apple just make the ipod apps ;) hahah kidden seriously think for a second all ipod has that zune doesn't are the apps... apps are lame you can maybe get a few games her and their or able to get anfake breath tester or suposedly turn on a car all those things they've made other's for like key's or a dentists or a xbox for real their both amusing their both gonna keep battling it out but this fight's never gonna come to a conclusion or agreement my opinion is zune's better for many reason's but so is ipod's all they can do is just improve
    1. sameguy at 7:22pm 28th September 2010 pardon my grammer rushed it a little
18. Guest at 7:30pm 13th September 2010 Can you jailbreak a Zune HD? Jailbreak a iPod yes and get tons of apps for free and change the way the screen looks as well. Right now watching streaming netfilx on my iPod. And multitasking other apps too
19. Sirnot Ett at 11:34pm 7th September 2010 This is probably the most biased conversation, review, and "trustworthy" people I ever heard of. I had owned both the iPod Touch and the Zune HD, and, in the end, I chose the iPod touch. No, not because I was "following the crowd", or that I wanted to look "trendy". I chose it for its features THAT I USE, it's lifetime capabilities THAT I USE, and its overall integrity. Reviewing all the comments to this terribly biased review, I have noticed that the Zune HD "fanboys" seem to have no true evidence into why they think that their mp3 is better. And their comments are immature, badly written, and of course, biased. If the modern human society would just glance long enough on my comment, it would be enough to set them straight. And yes, bring on the Zune HD Fanboy flame comments...
20. Knowledge is power at 10:43pm 1st September 2010 @bhushan rohta The first iPod launched in 2001... The world's first mass-produced hardware MP3 player was Saehan's MPMan, sold in Asia starting in the late spring of 1998. It was released in the United States as the Eiger Labs MPMan F10/F20 (two variants of the same device) in the summer of 1998.
    1. John Bereczki at 10:16pm 3rd February 2011 Actually the first one was called ..... The world's first company to announce a portable MP3 player and the attendant system for uploading MP3 audio content to a personal computer and then downloading it onto a personal MP3 player was Audio Highway. Under the direction of founder and CEO, Nathan Schulhof, Audio Highway announced its Listen Up player on September 23, 1996,[3] won an Innovations Award for its Listen Up player and its Listen Up Personal Audio System at the Consumer Electronics Show in January 1997,[4] and began shipping the Listen Up player in the United States in September 1997.[5] The Listen Up player also won a People's Choice Award[6] at the 2nd annual Internet Showcase conference, held Jan. 30, 1998.
21. AKay at 6:33pm 28th August 2010 You people become animals, sheehs they are just Media players, Y does every one get so religious about the matter, I use the IPod touch and I also have a Zen X-Fi Both are nice, tho I do think the X-fi has more freedom over what you can put into it (as a media player).
    1. Gyam at 8:23am 2nd September 2010 its because anyone with half a brain that has analyzed the differences between the technology is sick and tired of the imbeciles who blindly follow something.
22. George at 11:02pm 23rd August 2010 Well, I see the Zune has won every challenge in the review. Cheers, I'm buying my 64 gig tomorrow (:
23. laura at 2:37pm 12th August 2010 I love apple. And usually I would be inclined to agree. But apple's ipod touch/iphone layout is getting old. I used to have an iPod touch, then I sold it to my brother and bought a zune hd. It's way better!
24. bhushan rohta at 12:52pm 10th August 2010 apple is the tech... king. apple's products are uncomparable... see, only apple started with mini audio players (ipod).. rest all others have cheaply copied the idea...... think different..... think APPLE
    1. Geoff Yam at 8:22am 2nd September 2010 think apple. rofl what an idiot. Explains why they are so behind in their technology. best mac book pro just got the 5870, still uses the crappy little apple processor, can't be customised with liquid cooling (let alone liquid nitrogen), can't do this, can't do that. shut up you downie. Learn what technology really is before you say crap you apply fanboy. ipod wasn't the first mp3 player....MPman was. wow you really know your stuff. iriver had the h300 which could play videos when the ipod photo was new. Are you a scientologist? because you sure follow blindly.
25. Marlee at 11:49am 8th August 2010 okay, so the ipod one some things. but, overall its clear that the zune hd is way better. Even though there arent many apps (yet) there all free, apple has to pay for most of the good apps. && apple has a market for there apps, which means basically random people can make them, they could put a virus in a app. why would you want that? AND, zune hd comes in colors and you can get your name engraved FOR FREE. its obvious its a way better buy.
    1. Letsdance09 at 10:27am 30th October 2010 Why does everyone care about the apps. They will get bord with the apps sooner or later. Fine if they love the apps get a ipod touch. Its so annoying to here they compare the apps to zune hd when in like 2 weeks they will get bord with them.
26. Jeimuzu22 at 1:20pm 4th August 2010 Almost every Microsoft victory here will be annulled when Apple release the iPod touch equivalent to the iPhone 4 in a month or so.
27. Anonymous at 5:12pm 1st August 2010 Why would you want the Google Voice app on your iPod Touch? No mic. Other than that I agree.
    1. Lachlan at 11:42pm 10th August 2010 Apps run on both iPod Touch and iPhone. The main point is that Google's Voice app isn't available because it's free and would impact on Apple's sales.
    2. anonymous at 10:05am 13th August 2010 you can get a bluetooth headset to sync to it! BAM! Instant phone!!!
28. KYLE at 6:10pm 31st July 2010 You'r all kinda Stupid fighting over which is better i went through every single one of your comments. Seriously I Don't Care much for ether Microsoft or Apple Products as far as mp3 or phones. But I would much rather go for Microsoft over Apple by far even though both the prices are way too high. Apple as always sucked though There old computer's CRAP Newer computers eh not bad but over Priced again for one, way less on in it then a PC and also Apple Computers Are Highly Acceptable to getting viruses. Not many use apple so why bother making viruses for them ? Moving On Though Notice ONE thing here for Both. I just bought to Expand Storage for my PC a 500 GB Hard drive for $25 Brand NEW by Samsung now, your Spending on a Little MP# player anywhere from $100 to $400 If i were to spend that much id Be getting my self a 2 or even 4 Terabyte hard drive. They DO HAVE MP3 PLAYERS OUT THERE PEOPLE!!! THAT YOU CAN GET FOR LESS THEN $100 THAT CAN SURF THE INTERNET TO AND HAVE A DECENT STORAGE. YOU DON'T NEED THE GAMES OR CAMERAS ON IT>>>ITS FOR YOUR MUSIC SO JUST SEARCH AND SCREW GETTING THE ZUNE OR IPOD TOUCH
29. jen at 5:18pm 29th July 2010 comparring is rude and judgemental.. but its ture here... the zune hd is better
30. edward at 12:40am 21st July 2010 Note: Not Always
31. Doug at 12:03pm 20th July 2010 What makes Apple better? They charge more, give you less and lock you in tight. I have never been a Microsoft fan, but have become an Apple hater.
32. Melvo(: at 5:36am 20th July 2010 Omfg! This review helped me a bit if I should get a Zune HD or an iPod touch for my birthdayxD But Apple offers a HUGE collection of apps while Zune doesn't. Yet, a 16GB Zune HD is on sale for $180 while a 8GB iPod Touch is on sale for $200. Personally, if Apple would drop the price of a 16GB iPod Touch to $180-$200 then I would buy it. But there are so many reviews and opinions about them both that is making my decision is LOT harder to make.
    1. Letsdance09 at 10:30am 30th October 2010 You shouldn't compare the apps. You will get bord with them. Like when you play a video game and complete it you get bord with it becuase you don't need to play it anymore becuase you know everything about it.
    2. John Bereczki at 10:18pm 3rd February 2011 Watch your language man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
33. ridiculous at 5:38pm 18th July 2010 What a biased review. As far as price goes, the 8gb iTouch is way more expensive than it should be, but the 64gb and 32gb are near identical in price. Software wise the iTouch is far better, and for reasons the author himself stated. He said Apple forces you to buy individual songs for 0.99, while you can download any 10 a month on the Zune for $15 monthly. Did you fail math in elementary school? Becase 10 songs for $15 is more than the 'outrageous' price of a 0.99 iTunes song. The iTouch IS better, just because it is more mainstream doesn't make it worse, there is a reason it's sold 10 times better than any Zune product ever made.
    1. John Bereczki at 10:21pm 3rd February 2011 Yeah it sells better because it markets to the hapless souls who can't think for themselves and we're always bombarded with Apple garbage commercials. If more people knew about the Zune, I'm sure it would be different as people would like to see an alternative. Icrap isn't better, it's good but nothing special. Apple copied others before they came out with their icrap!
34. glitchinthemind at 10:56pm 16th July 2010 im sick and tired of retarded fanboys pitting their favorite pmps against each other. while this review goes over important key points of both of them, it emphasizes the zunes strengths and the ipods weaknesses. is the purpose of this review to propagate the zune? cuz ur not going to change the mind of any fanboy losers. just get a life and stop comparing two metal rectangles, its not like its important.
35. Josh Lindsay at 3:53am 14th July 2010 Hm, I really want the Zune - but I just wish the app store would come out sooner then 2011. =/
36. fiyaa7 at 3:14pm 13th July 2010 okay, just because all you 'zune-havers' are jealous of us 'ipod touch-havers' doesn't mean you have to PMS about it all.. yes, we know we have more apps and we know you wishhh you could have them (and many are very useful, important, and needed.. others are for pure entertainment).. and you think that by us having them we're "following the croud" well, there's a reason for 'the croud' having them..... THE IPOD TOUCH IS BETTER [: i know, it mayyy be hard for you to understand or comprehend this.. but dont worry, its going to be okay.. and u say that we judge too quick? well, maybe youuu judge to quick on the ipod touch :0 ever think of that one? so have fun living the rest of your life being jealous of us (:
    1. John Bereczki at 10:26pm 3rd February 2011 Ha ha you're pretty lame as I would never be jealous of you or your icrap! Who cares if you have more apps, and I don't wish that Zune had more. It's a waste of time and money, they aren't important and people can live without them! Yes you follow the crowd cause you're a bunch of sheep and can't think for yourself. You icrap is nothing special, apple was late in the game coming out with an mp3 player and if not for the ipod apple would be dead in the ground! Good job copying others! :) I tried your icrap, it's nice but it's nothing special, I wouldn't say it's better as itunes is the worse invention ever along with the click wheel, so ANNOYING to use ..... Just like you! ;) I'll enjoy life knowing i'm not a mindless sheep who can think for himself... :) Hope you have fun being a sheep, with no brain!
37. screennameless at 2:43am 13th July 2010 Don't feed the trolls.
38. screennameless at 2:41am 13th July 2010 Wow, really? That must be why they have all that market share! Oh wait... WHAT market share? Honestly, Apple does so many things wrong, it's note even funny. Starting with their neolithic mobile operating systems that just RECENTLY added multitasking support. And then the DRM? It's pathetic! You can't install ANY app that isn't personally approved by Apple. At least with WinMo and Android you have a choice to install any programs you want. So, did you even READ the review? Obviously not, as soon as you saw the title you jumped to the comments section and wrote that apple's better no matter what. There are MANY valid points in this article that point to the Zune being better. In case you haven't realized yet, Microsoft has been doing things RIGHT lately. Honestly, except for Windows Live Messenger, I can't think of anything that Microsoft is doing completely wrong right now. Really Microsoft is doing much better than Apple right now.
    1. fiyaa7 at 3:06pm 13th July 2010 wow, someone cares a bit too much.. dontchya think?? (:
39. ahmed at 2:07pm 11th July 2010 what about the app store
40. samantha at 3:13am 11th July 2010 your just jealous and insanely ignorant.
41. Zune_Pwn at 4:21pm 9th July 2010 lol zune is way better XD all the reasons are up! :)
42. Cal at 5:06am 8th July 2010 I see itunes and "i" products better. My brother has a Zune HD while I use all apple products. Ill make a list of things Music: Both are to be paid for, but limewire can also be used to download illegally. As for quality, I cant compare Screen: Zune wins for quality, but ipod touch wins for size and speed. I feel that it pinpoints the tap faster then a zune can Wireless: I have yet to use the wifi, but on the ipod touch, its considerably quick. Entertainment: For this, I would have to say ipod touch. It has an app store full of thousands of apps, moving from Americas most wanted, to a dog whistle to help train your dog, too tap tap revenge. Zune, on the other hand (heard from my brother) only has sixteen apps at the moment. Overall winner: I vote ipod. They both have WIFI, but the bigger screen and the amount of apps result in having the ipod touch better. Thats just my opinion though. Feel free to comment on this one so I can compare
43. Alex C. at 9:43pm 3rd July 2010 I have both the Zune and the Touch and i like both , Zune has a lot of thiongs need fixing atm lke the catalogin link with my wmp in windows very annoying and the fact the it freezes sometimes while im loading some music into it sucks too.Im sticking with my Pod atm till the fix the bugs for Zune but all said its nice to have both :D
44. lee at 3:04pm 3rd July 2010 ahaha shut down!
45. Nash at 6:42am 2nd July 2010 if you dont like your ipod or Zune...instead donate it to those who in need ... and for sure it will be much appreciated !
46. DiandreZune love at 4:32am 29th June 2010 Let me just say this about apple! The only reason why they are leading is because of apps! WHO CARES ABOUT APPS IF YOU HAVE A SMART PHONE WITH APPS! you guys make me sick when you claim apple is better when the truth is It's not! So what is zune hd doesn't have freaking apps! It is state of the art and will always be the best choice! I've had both devices (touch and zune hd) and I can say zune is off the chain! I love zune and I'm really tired of hearing I this I that! So apple, shove it up yours because zune is a killer!
47. Freshta at 2:20pm 23rd June 2010 this is biased because microsoft won each issue....what you want is for Apple to win each issue, WHICH IS ANOTHER BIASED
48. S Sanders876 at 9:34am 11th June 2010 where the hell do you buy the zune phone at ??
    1. loser at 9:59am 16th August 2010 there is no zune phone stupid
49. Dsdsucs at 7:25am 11th June 2010 i really think i-pods suck
50. Fher at 10:34am 10th June 2010 And that's not all.
    They don't even talk about the weight which a Zune is 2.6 ounces and 4 for the iPod.
    Also the Video Formats they can handle. And don't forget the HD Radio that iPod doesn't even have a regular radio.
    Which in all of these the Zune is better.
51. Fher at 10:26am 10th June 2010 That's truth.
    I'm mean only thinkin' of the LED Screen.
    F**k the rest.
    And even the rest f**k the iPod.
52. jay at 3:12pm 2nd June 2010 i own a zune HD and my boyfriend owns a itouch....... i think the zune is better in so many ways beggining with the cost to get songs and dont forget bout the sweet warranty i got with it. we got ours both at the same time i've dropped mine like 3 times and it still hasnt needed to be replaced. my boyfriend dropped his itouch and it broke immediatly. i never have any problems with the zune. it never freezes or lags or anything so i think the zune is the best way to go.
53. NeLsOn at 4:39pm 24th May 2010 have any of you heard of the Creative Zii Egg? im deciding whether to buy that or the zune hd ......... do any of you have info on it??????????????????????????????????????????
54. COOOOOOOOOOL at 3:02pm 19th May 2010 CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOOOOOOOOOL!
55. jim at 8:46am 18th May 2010 What I'd like to know is the over all battery life of both the zune and i pod touch ie how long or how many times can you charge them before either needs the battery changed or replaced
56. Noah Johnson at 3:24pm 13th May 2010 Totally biased to Microsoft, no comparison to customer satisfaction, customer support or even internet browsing?
57. vimukthividurangana at 2:06am 11th May 2010 i like & i love i pod touch
58. pieISawsome at 1:53pm 2nd May 2010 you do relize you can play third party apps from zhdapps.com? (over 50 apps i think? 100 even)
59. Sam at 5:46pm 1st May 2010 The zune is much cheaper. You get unlimited songs for 15 dollars a month. To fill the latest ipod it would cost 30,000 dollars to fill. Zune once again hands down wins the competition
60. Steve at 6:25pm 28th April 2010 Will people choose the functionality of the iPod Touch, with it's slightly larger screen and virtually endless app store, or the Zune HD, with its battery saving OLED, Nvidia Tegra chip, and music exploration capabilities (like the Zune pass and HD radio)? I think it all boils down to how it would be used. Internet and apps? The Touch wins. Overall media experience? Probably the HD.
    
    Screw it. I'm gonna buy a Zune.
61. scott at 11:25pm 22nd April 2010 They need to to really stop refering to the ipod touch as mp3/4 player. Thats like calling my computer a badass mp3/4 player with 250 gb of storage, gps, apps, programs galore Its insane no other mp3 player can touch it.With the ability to run a program that allows so many apps and internet, and gps it has moved out of the media player realm. I give props to apple for creating such a cool devise. However as much as zune wants a slice of the pie, its still like comparing apples to oranges even with zune having internet. However with the itouch running wild with the apps craze. Im afraid to say ZuneHD picked up were apple left off when they abandonded the mp3 itouch for the apps crazed itouch.Zune software rules, zune points are stupid though. and the zunes a better dedicated media player.
62. scott at 11:04pm 22nd April 2010 Whats up with this apps obsession were talking about media players listening to music, looking at pictures, watching movies and thats stretching it. If you want apps go home and play one your computer. This is rediculous, dont get me wrong some apps are cool and maybe even helpful. But when we start talking about apps then we need to start talking about comparisons between 1st gen. 2nd gen. ect.... Ipods. and thats it.
63. scott at 10:49pm 22nd April 2010 Thats why the online play is better with xbox360 because more of your friends have them. Why would you want to be online when nobody is, are nobody you know is. Playstation went online first with the PS2, but microsoft just excelled in that area and honestly thats what popuralized the xbox360 to its current status and thats what ended sonys unmatched superiority in the gaming systems war. The same thing applys with the ipod and zune. Ipod clearly has the upper hand because of the apps, and the fact that its more like a PDA. But there both equally good media players. I just dont get the comparisons there not the same devises. At least not yet. You have to understand that microsoft networking is already implanted in everyones home and business no telling what capabilities will be unlocked in the future. Zune software is superior and the networking already available is great. I own both and run both programs. Cant stand to look at itunes now. Im always on my zune account now.
64. Jack at 9:36pm 20th April 2010 MY PARENTS SAID THEY WOULD BUY ME A NEW MP3 PLAYER FOR MY BIRTHDAY I ALREADY HAVE THE OLD ITOUCH BUT I WANT THE NEW ONE WITH THE BIGGER MEMORY. THE ZUNE IS ONLY FOR BABYS GET OVER YOURSELVES AND GET THE TOUCH.
65. wtf at 4:33pm 19th April 2010 wow im glad u play "professional" but really thats even less of a reason to listen to u if ur only evidence is that u sit at home and play like 24/7 go get a real job that will contribute to society!!!!! im sure that you also live at home in ur parents basement. Right? im surprised to see that u even had enough time to come on here and "educate" us all with ur profesionalness but go back to doing what ur good at. (meaning basically nothing but useless shit)
66. boby124 at 12:30pm 17th April 2010 i think xune is better cause the owner of mircorsoft wears the biggest hat
67. Dragon333 at 7:00pm 14th April 2010 Last year I was getting a new MP3 player, and I was stuck between the Zune HD and the iPod touch. Granted, I was already a little biased toward the Zune because I've heard about a few things Apple has done. (Like having a program in your computer that scans your files to see what music you like.) I looked through several sites and ended up buying the Zune. I'm going to have to agree with this article, it was much better. While it doesn't have many apps, those aren't really the important thing in a music player. Besides, when I got it, I was thrilled to find out that the applications were free. I'd much rather have a few free apps than lots of apps I had to pay for. The Zune is much better overall. (I'd also like to mention that I absolutely HATE it when someone refers to any MP3 player as an iPod. No, I don't have an "iPod." I have a Zune, an MP3 player which I decided is ultimately better.)
68. NELSON at 8:17am 14th April 2010 thanks :)
69. onetimer at 4:41pm 13th April 2010 professionally? awesome.
70. Steve at 4:04pm 13th April 2010 Well, I would get the Zune because it has double the capacity at a lower price. But, if you are going to use it for the internet and apps, I would definitely get the Touch because it has a gigantic app store and a larger screen for web page navigation.
71. NELSON at 9:16am 13th April 2010 Does the zune hd have built in speakers?
    1. loser at 9:56am 16th August 2010 unfortunetly not
72. NELSON at 6:06am 13th April 2010 I'M STUCK......... I LIKE THE I POD TOUCH, BUT THE ZUNE SEEMS COOL TOO. I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD BUY THE 16 GIGABYTE ZUNE FOR 148 $$$$ ....... OR THE 8 GIGABYTE I POD TOUCH FOR 189 $$$$. WHICH ONE SHOULD I GET
73. nemo at 11:05pm 12th April 2010 Obviously, you did not understand the point of this article. This article was used to "determine which truly makes the ultimate portable video device." Also, he mentioned the app store in the article on Page 2 under "App Support." Personally, I believe the Zune HD seems like a nice mp3 if the claims that Microsoft made are true (referring to battery life). I have not owned a Zune HD nor have I owned an iPod Touch (although I have used one before, and they are quite nice as an MP3). This is where I shall rant: My netbook does not have the capability to play 720p videoes, yet the Zune HD is capable of doing so. This aggravates me so much that it can >_<. Rant over.
    1. mATT at 5:57am 13th April 2010 SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO................. WHICH ONE IS BETTER????????? SHOULD I BUY THE I POD TOUCH, OR THE ZUNE HD???????
74. Guru at 3:47am 11th April 2010 Better yet, download media for free from private torrent trackers or for pennies on the dollar from newsgroups like Usenext--safe and affordable. Put in perspective, iTunes is pathetic to download with... for the morally ambiguous--or perhaps, enlightened-- ones among us at least. :D
75. Steve at 6:11pm 7th April 2010 Microsoft is coming out with a 64 gigabyte Zune HD on April 12, which might change the competition between the Zune and the iPod Touch. People who have a lot of music now have the option to buy a higher capacity HD. To sweeten the deal, Microsoft priced the 64 gig HD at $350, $50 cheaper than the Touch with the same capacity.
76. iZuner at 8:56pm 3rd April 2010 they are bout the same.
    1200 points for $15, about 80 points for $1
    songs cost 79 pts or 99 pts on zune
    songs cost .99 or 1.29 on itunes
77. theman at 12:07am 2nd April 2010 Despite what you may think, many people do consider other devices before going with the ipod. I considered the zune hd for a quite a while before deciding to go with the ipod. I agree the whole 75,000 apps is silly, but those 500 useful apps put the ipod far ahead of the zune in terms of functionality (especially when jailbroken, something that cannot be done on a zune). In addition, if you think that the iphone games are all variations of guitar hero then you should do some research. Some iphone games already look as good as psp games -> see Firemint's Real Racing and the game selection is more varied than the XBOX live marketplace games (im sure you are aware that the zune will not be able to play true xbox games).
78. My name is..... at 9:29am 31st March 2010 he's biased in the way he only metioned the features where the zune wins. for instance, he "forgot" to mention that the Touch has access to the largest 100,000 app store. it also has great support as opposed to microsoft. The Itouch also has an accelerometer although the Zune might have that too. More people is a major plus because more people to play with on the WiFi online league. But the Zune has many of these features if they would have come out with it first, the conversaition would switch sides...
79. i own the hella outta noobz at 8:03am 30th March 2010 they do make phones
80. StrikeFear13 at 4:30am 29th March 2010 Is it wrong that this post really makes my penis hard?
81. WarShipSayTen at 9:16am 26th March 2010 You people that think the ipod is so great and wont even take a look at any other player really need to grow up... what is so great about the ipod? could it be the horribly unoganized firmware where everything is just thrown onto a screen and you gotta dig for what you want? or possibly the 75000 apps [who gives a shit.. you cant have that many at once anyways]... and more on the apps.. my brothers both have ipods and i have noticed that there are about 20 apps that do the exact thing for almost every type out there... they both have about 15 different guitar hero like games on their ipods... 75,000/20[clone aps] leaves you with only 3,750 unique apps [still high] but now take out all the useless ones.. you have maybe...what 500 useful apps [most of which arent free]... or possibly it is the amazingly crappy sounding speaeker that ipods have in them.
    now zune has its own problems... but it is only its 1st gen.. the ipod is in its 4th.. and in my opinion just barely able to compete with zune. zunes firmware is MUCH more organized, cleaner, just easier to use. most of the apps you get on your precious little ipods are available for zune too btw... they just arent being uploaded to the zune software currently.. you gotta do some work [i know.. googling is difficult] and with the upcoming windows phone 7, the zune hd's will be getting a firmware upgrade to probably support flash
    [woot, go youtube]... and many more apps will be produced to support both devices.... oh.. did i mention zune's support 3d like gaming with graphics that are equal to and could surpass a psp? and a new lil thing is coming to microsofts handhelds... something called XBOX LIVE... thats right.. xbox live on zune... so go ahead and play your guitar hero like games on your ipod while i play the real thing... apple has been overrated for to long... start looking at the facts
82. Mic23 at 2:28pm 22nd March 2010 i'm tired of what every one else has, i'd rather get something that people don't have, some unique like the zune... cause everyone has one of them iPod that every single person has... or why cant Microsoft and Apple just join up and make up a Zune-Pod that has every that the other one has
83. misterdoodyhead at 8:53pm 21st March 2010 This is so stupid. Why would i buy a zune over an ipod? For what, a SLIGHTLY better display, battery life etc. no thx, id rather stick to a device with 150,000 more apps and has twice the capacity.
    
    This is article is definately biased. Its comparing such insignificant specs that no one cares about. A price difference of $10 - MICROSOFT WINS!!!!!!!11 Okay there, easy boy. How many cool kids do you know who say "LoOK Ah ME EVrY1 I GOtS A zUNE!!!oneoneone"? Some cool kid huh?
84. Person at 7:28pm 21st March 2010 And yet you are one of those people. There you go worshiping your idol when you know nothing about it other than the fact that it looks pretty. Also due to the fact that you can't spell worth crap does not help your case.
85. Person at 7:25pm 21st March 2010 Illegal if you live in the states.
86. Person at 7:25pm 21st March 2010 Download music free from Crap... Crap... and probably crappy? Those are pathetic to download with.
87. ysuhaas at 2:14pm 21st March 2010 you both are just retarded fanboys
    xbox rules in online play
    ps3 rules in audio/video quality (Blu-Ray)
    
    they both have awesome games
88. J0hn at 2:52pm 20th March 2010 if it werent for da apps da Itouch would burn compaerd to the Zune HD
89. Tyler at 9:30am 19th March 2010 you can go screw you self.
90. S. Bala Murugan at 7:42am 19th March 2010 funny that your'e proving my point....
91. mixed feelings at 4:09pm 18th March 2010 the zune hd was basically made to compete with the ipod touch: while apple was busy debugging programs and fixing software glitches, microsoft was watching and learning from apple's mistakes, and was ultimately able to make a machine that could stand up to the gargantuan that is ipod.
    the fact that they took so long to do it just shows that they put their all into it. and before anyone calls me an "apple hater", i would like to say that on some points, apple wins. their computers are far better than anything else out there, and their os is far ahead of windows 7.
92. Sal at 11:26am 16th March 2010 The iTunes on the new computer I bought does not work (OS is Windows 7 64 bit). When you click on the iTunes icon, nothig happens. Nothing, not even an error report. There is an iTunes icon in the taskbar, but the program itself doesn't show. I have looked all over the internet for a solution and reinstalled iTunes several times, but nothing works. I plan on moving my music library to Zune, to avoid this incredibly frustrating iTunes glitch.
93. my opinion at 8:06pm 15th March 2010 I was recently deciding between a zune hd and an ipod touch. I ended up with a 32gb ipod touch. The zune hd may be a better mp3 and video player and it has an fm radio so if you that is all you want, then by all means get the zune. Now lets look at what i currently have on my jailbroken touch:
    
    1- how about the collective sum of human knowledge- see wiki2touch (jailbroken), or encyclopedia (app store)- download all of wikipedia on to your device for offline viewing
    2- nes, gba, playstation emulators as well as an n64 and SNES emulator that have bluetooth WII-MOTE SUPPORT and may soon have PS3 controller support
    3- Remote Desktop- self explanatory
    4- check out xGPS- an app that lets you download google maps. I have the google map of my entire city- 16 zoom levels (only 100 mb). You can download a map of pretty much anywhere.
    5- ebook reader, web radio, full dictionary, google earth, comic book reader (.cbr and .cbz files), a new york times app that automatically downloads the latest news so i can read anywhere.
    6- the games are great- check out NOVA, one of the best mobile fps, Plants vs. Zombies, Need for Speed, GTA chinatown wars, etc...
    
    Lets see what is coming soon to the ipod:
    Core Player 2.0- will allow the touch to play back nearly any video and audio file type (xvid, divx, flv, etc..)
    Novell is releasing software that allows easy conversion of xbox 360 XNA games to the ipod touch.
    More and more games- i have heard that there are more developers making games for the ipod touch then the psp and ds combined
    For fun, check out the icontrolpad.
    
    Anyways, the point is that the ipod offers a heck of a lot of functionality (even more so if jailbroken which i found to be surprisingly risk free). If all you want if a portable mp3/video player then the zune is probably a better choice. If you want a pocket-able computer, get the ipod touch. Also, i wouldn't get your hopes up too much for more zune hd apps. Microsoft will be releasing the windows 7 phone and zune hd 2(not sure) which will be running a different operating system and they will be likely focusing on these new platforms, but thats just a guess (well they already announced the zune hd wont support the new XNA 4.0).
94. jim at 9:10pm 13th March 2010 The Zune HD is better than the iPod Touch because of it's size and weight. The Touch seems too big to carry around in your pocket.
95. seanthornton75 at 7:53pm 13th March 2010 In regards to the Xbox/PS3 matter, Xbox has a 10x's better online play than PS3. If you had both and ACTUALLY played them like I do, you would see the differences. Why do you think the 50$ per year? Its to keep the servers running at an optimal level. I play FPS games professionally (Which incase you didn't know is the biggest online style of game) and playing the different 2 is like black and white. PS3 made me want to commit suicide trying to play online. You cant play an equal match what so ever. The HOST PS3 has such an advantage its like playing a Queen when your a Pawn. Not saying that Xbox is perfect because its definitely not. But its more like a LAN play than PS3 by far. And since your so up to date on these, you know that everything is moving to Online gameplay. Even Gameboy has. So Yes, Xbox is actually better when dealing Online. Stop using big words and sounding smart. You dont know what your talking about unless you actually play them. Which I'm guessing you play casually.
96. willianknoppfler at 4:09am 12th March 2010 I wish I were a tech journo - I'd sell out every time to the biggest payer :)
97. dalocalkine at 2:04pm 11th March 2010 *cough* umm they are makin a phone its gonna come out soon i think its called windows phone 7 and i believe its gonna b a phone that has win 7 as its OS and its not gonna be exclusive to only 1 cell carrier i believe it'll b available to all so that that apples
98. mya at 9:24pm 9th March 2010 honestly im not satisfied with my 80gb zune so i really don't think the zune hd would be worth wasting money on.
99. Mya at 9:22pm 9th March 2010 So i was once i zune fan and i got it to be different because i didnt really care for apple. I started off with 8gb zune, then lost it and got a 80gb. when i found out about the zune hd i was so excited that zune was finally doing something new but my 80gb starting acting up (out of nowhere) so i wanted a new one. I compare my sister's ipod touch to my friends zune hd and i had to admit the ipod touch was way more advance and im deciding to make the switch. Microsoft has failed to impress me and isn't doing anything with zune compared to apple.
100. Dan Gaul at 5:23pm 9th March 2010 How would you say this article is biased? There are points to each category which he provides evidence as to which is better or not. You don't provide anything other then "the ipod is obviously better."
     
     Why would you say Nick is a Microsoft geek? Have you read any of his other articles? What makes you come to that conclusion? Sounds like you are just trolling.
101. Michael Swan at 4:23pm 9th March 2010 BTW This article is extremely biased. The ipod had better qualities in many of these categories but he neglected them for his preference. Not only that, but the author is a Microsoft freak, which means he doesn't like apple, which means he would write anything to make his favorite company look good.
     
     The ipod touch is obviously better.
102. Michael Swan at 4:13pm 9th March 2010 wow. You are incredibly stupid. Just as the Xbox has the top sales for its online play, the ipod is so popular because of its vast App Market and its vast number of sales. I see ipods everywhere and ipod is so popular that it is used synonymously with MP3 Player. Literally people don't even know that term. They refer to any MP3 Player as an ipod and not a Zune. Im not dissing the Zune but Apple came out with theirs first. And they started selling the ipod touch so much earlier that Zune sales are dead because everyone already has an ipod touch and aren't going to spend more on a Zune. And they will buy a new ipod over a Zune, because people tend to stick with the same brands that have done them well.
103. Robert Arone at 1:40pm 8th March 2010 NO! You are wrong, I hate people like you. I have both of them do? Why the hell would I believe you. You are the idiot. Because PS3 is better an almost EVERY way, except online. But the thing is the actual online experience is the same except, Xbox has a (better..?) dashboard, and maybe chat, but the thing is PS3 has this too. And wait a minute PS3 Network is free! But Xbox is $50 EXTRA a year. People buy Xbox's because their friends have them, not because the actual online experience is better. Wow people like you (Uneducated, throw out random FALSE statements and think you are right) are EXTREMELY annoying!!
104. matt at 9:17am 8th March 2010 I am so torn!! i usually go microsoft and the zune on xbox live is amazing but the 64gb and the bluetooth headphones on the ipod touch...and well as much as everyone hates hearing it the apps are appealing. i just dont know, the zunehd looks so amazing and if one so wanted to download songs illegally they could put them on the zune and not the ipod but there still seems to be some things lacking when it comes to the zune...
105. 64!! at 8:52am 8th March 2010 apple offers 64GB microsoft needs to match that to get my business on this one
106. duh at 8:44am 8th March 2010 wow idiot people buy xbox because the online play is 100 times better than ps3 believe me i have both ps3 is terrible online compared to the xbox live system
107. Greg at 9:00am 6th March 2010 Right now, my 4th generation iPod Nano has a battery life of less than 4 hours on low settings. The 8 gigs on my Nano doesn't come close to accommodating all my music, and iTunes has always been a headache: this along with the battery problem have convinced me that I should get a new mp3 player. Is the Zune HD worth buying? What do you guys think?
108. Tymon at 9:37pm 5th March 2010 The reason Zune doesn't have flash capability has absolutely nothing to do with Microsoft. It's Adobe's slow, pokey butt. Microsoft doesn't own the copyrights to Flash, hence, cannot develop/make/put it on without Adobe's consent. Apple doesn't actually have flash either. If you want to yell at someone, yell at Adobe for being pathetically slow.
109. Eldrich at 6:12pm 4th March 2010 You CAN download music for free, but it's illegal. Not exactly a good selling point, dipshit.
110. Tyler at 2:39pm 4th March 2010 Why don't you grow up....... Man
111. Tyler at 2:34pm 4th March 2010 You're the tool.
112. Sal at 6:20pm 3rd March 2010 Whoops, didn't see the second page. My bad. Scrap that part about the apps not being mentioned.
113. rusty_shackleford_33 at 5:53pm 3rd March 2010 Uh, I'm pretty sure it mentions a whole lot about app selection under the entire section called "App Support"...
114. Sal at 1:59pm 3rd March 2010 The article failed to mention one of the most important factors, the app selection. Apple blows the HD out of the water in this category. I know that Apple has a huge lead in the department because the iPod Touch is in its third generation, while the Zune HD is first generation. However, anyone who needs an mp3 player soon is not going to wait for Zune to catch up with their app selection, they'll just buy an iPod Touch. Also, the Touch has a built-in speaker. This might not seem like a big feature, but that way you don't need to carry headphones anywhere.
115. John at 5:00am 2nd March 2010 People seriously underestimate how much they would use iPod touch apps.
     I for one didn't expect to use ANY. I was shopping for JUST A MUSIC PLAYER. But now, I use:
     
     -TextFree linked with my Google Voice number
     -The best facebook app
     -Mail app with push notifications (way superior and faster than the gmail mobile site, can also be used offline)
     -Youtube
     -Caledar that syncs with my google calendar
     -Dictionary (which is usable offline)
     -Twitter app
     
     I use my touch more for other things than music, and I listen to music a ton. The apps are the type of thing that you can't live without until you start using them.
     
     PS: And, the only app I listed that cost money is TextFree. Also, I didn't mention any games, which are actually GOOD on the iPod touch (ign.com has a whole section of their site devoted to iPhone games).
116. zac at 11:54am 28th February 2010 u dnt need to jail break them the apps are free
117. Zac at 11:49am 28th February 2010 It's alot cheaper to put music on the zune, about 30 cents cheaper dependin on the song
118. s Bala murugan at 11:49pm 27th February 2010 grow up man.....
119. Matthew at 12:47pm 26th February 2010 UR AN ASS WHO CARES ABOUT CAPLOCKS CAPLOCKS!!!!!!!!! im mean rly there just letters ppl chillllll...chill ;)
120. Robert Arone at 9:14am 26th February 2010 When you try to prove something is better or higher quality, you should have an arguement point; which you don't have. And you should have good spelling, considering you have about four errors in two short sentences is pretty pathetic. Therefore get off here you Apple Tool.
121. Tyler at 9:02am 26th February 2010 The iPod touch wil always come out on top. Zune can make all of the imitation iPods they want but Apple will always win
122. Robert Arone at 3:51pm 24th February 2010 Okay, I have read a lot of posts here and the only thing that is better (from everybody else posting here) is the *Apps*. Okay for one I have had an iPod Touch 1st gen 16gb for about 3 years. I have jailbroke it and used it a lot. I got really hyped up and said wow look at what I can play on here and do all this stuff. I have e-mail and all of these applications. But now, after using it for a long time. I use it for main thing. I listen to music. I also watch videos and occasionally surf the web. But the fact is, people get all excited about 75,00 apps! But really, once they get it.. they get sick of playing the games at least. And there may be some useful apps that are actually needed like e-mail and organizer related apps, but the fact is you can do all of this on like a blackberry or an iPhone. A iPhone is basically like an iPod Touch, but it is different if you are a buisness person and use it all in one, but an iPod Touch and Zune are for listening to music and watch videos, not check your e-mail and stuff. So if you have a newer phone or going to get one, I am pretty sure your phone will be the one you check your e-mail with and stuff like that instead of going on your iPod Touch and connecting to a Wi-Fi and checking it from there. I have had an iPod for 3 years (Like I said earlier), but a Zune is cheaper, it is slightly smaller, and is more of a music player (Mp3 Player). So I am done now talking about this because people are just so stupid and no matter what I or ANYONE else says, they won't understand. But when you buy things, you should look into the specs and features that best suite your needs. You should NEVER look at the people who use the product or little features that you will really never use in the long run. Thanks. Check out my website at www.Penny2Bid.com - try taking out the www. if that doesn't work because we are building it. Please contact Support if you have any questions!
123. Robert Arone at 3:28pm 24th February 2010 Well actually sir, I am sure there is a way to get apps from somewhere and transfer them to your Zune and then you would have more options then an iPod Touch. Also about your other point, what if people are trying to *Jailbreak it* (In Apple terms)? They might be trying, might not be. The fact is we don't know. I would guess and am pretty sure that someone IS trying to jailbreak it, but the fact is Microsoft made a better base and security and it is MUCH harder to hack. The iPod is not made well (in the inside) and people could hack it easily and they still cannot figure out how to stop it (which is kind of sad in my opinion.) I will bring up the PS3 again. A PS3 has been out for many years now (about 4 now?) and there is still no easy, soft hack that does not require to mess with the inside of your system. So you cannot hack that. But the Nintendo Wii and Xbox are both really easy to hack and this could be the same situation of iPod Touch vs. Zune HD. So, think about the facts..people have no life and most likley, someone, somewhere around the world has tried or is trying to hack a Zune right now..
124. Robert Arone at 3:20pm 24th February 2010 HAHA Anytime anybody ever makes a point that one thing has more users/customers on that certain product are running out of things to agrue about. People are tools. They buy things without researching which one is better. Zune could be 100$ cheaper, x3 better, what ever. But some people are so STUPID that they would not switch to a Zune even if they were given all of the specs. It is almost like an Xbox to a PS3. PS3 is better in almost EVERY WAY! But yet more people buy Xbox's because there friends have them. So this is the same situation. Zunes are better than iPods and Apple products, but people are too stupid and they just think Apple is always best so no matter what Microsoft does people will continue to buy Apple products. So in conclusion, the number of customers DOES NOT prove anything.. especially the fact of which MP3 player is better. Because in this case, the Zune is clearly better, but since iPod is so popular, people defend it because of the name.
125. Sal at 11:08am 22nd February 2010 I completely agree.
126. rhettHD at 6:11pm 21st February 2010 I like Music, that's what I want to do, and maybe occasionally watch a video, but really I could care less to do so on such a small screen. I guess I could say I-touch has the cool factor, but as a music player, ZuneHD is everybit as good and Zune Pass trumps all. And what's better Best Buy $ I touch $200, ZuneHD $200, only thing, the Zune has twice the memory at that price, plus I don't have to waste precious space on 75000 silly apps, just music. You do the math. ZuneHD>Ipod Touch
127. mike at 1:57pm 21st February 2010 Jail break a media player? WTF are u talking about. Its not a phone idiot
128. Sal at 6:28pm 18th February 2010 How is the HD "just an mp3 player"? It has wi-fi, HD radio, HD video output, an app selection, and a 3.3 inch OLED touchscreen. Few, if any, other players boast this many features. The iPod touch is the only other mp3 player that matches the HD.
129. Surreal at 2:04pm 17th February 2010 Ipod touch is clearly better it is more than an mp3 player the Hd is just an Mp3 player PERIOD
130. Frankie at 1:31pm 13th February 2010 I agree because I think the person that wrote the article wasn't fair. He gave things to the zune when clearly they go to ipod touch.
131. failblog at 8:38am 10th February 2010 LOL YOU FAIL
132. Anonymous at 10:22pm 9th February 2010 both
133. Sawyer Clark at 10:41pm 7th February 2010 Zune HD is a lot better than the 1g ipod touch but (and dont get me wrong im going to get a zune hd) the technology of everything has evolved since the 1g ipod touch so microsoft had more to work with. you cant really compare the 2
134. Danacon at 1:21pm 6th February 2010 why all the caps? you cant talk normal? the difference in thickness is like .2mm something nobody would really notice that much once use to it. Your making it sound like its very thick and bulky which is not the case. I have both for Appz the I-Pod has it beat hands down, unless MS oppens a app developer kit for people to make them but for music and Video(BIgtime) the Zune wins by a long shot.
     The size difference is not that noticible the weight is a little though.
135. Everett at 9:06pm 4th February 2010 actually it's called the iPod touch. the itouch is a completely different mp3 player. nice try.
136. Jon at 4:30pm 3rd February 2010 Before all of you get back to debating arguing and bickering, in history competition has brought so many advances in our life, such as the Human Genome Project, and Countless others, Apple is going to see the success from the Microsoft Zune and improve what apple feels need improving, then Microsoft is going to improve this will happen again and again its life, its competition basically its the quest for power, but mostly money... So think about it is the battle between Apple and Microsoft good or bad, I know it is good creative minds find millions of ways to out compete their competitors, and what do we get a good product, and they get money to continue improving and competing between each other
137. iBell at 11:21am 2nd February 2010 [SARCASM] Not biased at all. [/SARCASM]
     
     Seriously. Software is a draw? Gee, I wonder if you have actually used a Zune HD or whether you're just looking at some specification tables. the iPod touch is intant to open a calculator. The Zune HD takes around 15(!) seconds. I'll even admit it, the Zune HD has better hardware, but it's Apple's software that makes it stand above all else. And the App Store is a VERY big feature of the Apple iPod touch. 3 billion downloads!!! I wonder if the Zune HD will ever even rack up 100,000 in its whole life span? It's doubtable.
     
     Try getting a reasonably cheap Zune HD Dock with built in FM Radio and Alarm Clock. There are over 500 different models compatable with the iPod touch. They said that accessories will just come over time. I can say for sure that they won't. There are too many MS fan boys on the internet, but I assume that is just normal.
     
     In conclusion, don't bother actually taking this comparison into account when considering which one to buy. Yes, the Zune HD has its trumps and so do the iPod touch, but just try one where LITERALLY EVERYTHING is biased towards MS.
138. koolkidz8703 at 4:56pm 1st February 2010 the zune hd has only been out since september, the ipod touch has years lead to the zune and it takes months to create apps which the ipod is ahead on but they have some lame and random apps i have both the touch and hd and i think the hd is better its smaller thinner and looks better not to mention its 98% scratch proof the back of the ipod touch gets scratched up to easy give the zune some time to prove its worth
139. Sean A. Flesch at 11:29am 1st February 2010 It has wi-fi and according to http://technologizer.com/2009/09/15/zune-hd-ipo... from last Septemeber, it is supposed to support facebook and twitter "soon."
140. Sean A. Flesch at 11:27am 1st February 2010 Well, I will claim that yours was a rather pointless comment, but until other people actually read it, they won't be able to determine for themselves.
     As far as battery claims, all manufacturers tend to stretch their battery claims as much as they can. There's nothing unusual in that. Thank you for bringing up one entirely unimportant point as to why this article is "completely misleading" you were so helpful to the discussion. I will NOT buy a Zune HD now because you convinced me that they ALL LIE!
141. Sean A. Flesch at 11:17am 1st February 2010 Um, no, not in the context of that comment. WiFi is 802.11 like your wifi router at home. The wireless connection this user is referring to is the mobile company's wireless (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3G) connection.
142. Sean A. Flesch at 10:45am 1st February 2010 Yes. It's considered rude/shouting and makes it difficult to read. It also shows signs of ignorance.
143. Sean A. Flesch at 10:44am 1st February 2010 The video seemed to be a bit bias. The last three comparisons all took points away from the Zune in part because of the apps. They dinged the Zune on all three categories in part because of that.
144. Benjamin at 10:05am 1st February 2010 Basically
     Apple is hardware company with some software. Apple makes their own phones and PC.
     Microsoft is software company with some hardware. Microsoft...let others make phones and PC.
     
     PC that is Personal Computer.
145. reinventnv at 3:08am 31st January 2010 all i have to say is that their both good products and each has its own excuse for being better and that at the end of the day consumers are buying both... so lets be friends and come to relize that either way where all being got cause they're both making shit-loads of money off of us... lol its a sad day .... good god ppl lets come to realize that these material items are only temporary and then you die ..... lets not waste as much time as i did reading all this crap ... theyres too many problems in the world for us to sit here and argue about whos the best outs these two billion-dollar companies.... crap and besides i think we need to get a lime wire app or sopthin with 3g on it i wanna download music without paying on the go... u kno like when you hear it on the radio for the first time kinda stuff...... dont be evil - as google would say .... - thats there credo if you dont know
146. reinventnv at 3:08am 31st January 2010 all i have to say is that their both good products and each has its own excuse for being better and that at the end of the day consumers are buying both... so lets be friends and come to realize that either way where all being got cause they're both making boat-loads of money off of us... lol its a sad day .... good god ppl lets come to realize that these material items are only temporary and then you die ..... lets not waste as much time as i did reading all this crap ... there is too many problems in the world for us to sit here and argue about whos the best outs these two billion-dollar companies.... crap and besides i think we need to get a lime wire app or somthin with 3g on it i wanna download music without paying on the go... u know like when you hear it on the radio for the first time kinda stuff...... dont be evil - as google would say .... - thats there credo if you dont know
147. reinventnv at 2:59am 31st January 2010 you know u have to check the dimentional size and material's used in either device in order to catagorize them by weight.... and besides when i think of sompthing thru wight i think the heavyier the more expensive right?? to produce that is
148. reinventnv at 2:56am 31st January 2010 your right// totally right if any thing these two heavy weight's need to stop trying to fight each other off and they need to watch out for google casue google is somthin to be afraid of
149. reinventnv at 2:54am 31st January 2010 theire both good products bottom line !!
150. reinventnv at 2:49am 31st January 2010 dont piss on the i touch just cause you dont got one .... lol
151. reinventnv at 2:49am 31st January 2010 thats what i was saying .. pay for the flashlight .. makes alota sense
152. reinventnv at 2:48am 31st January 2010 dude jail break your shit.... and if you already have and its slow use the memtool in cydia
153. reinventnv at 2:48am 31st January 2010 dude jail break your stuff.... and if you already have and its slow use the memtool in cydia
154. reinventnv at 2:46am 31st January 2010 ok .... you know what screw apple and microsoft... i wanna see google poke its head in this one with something amazing
155. reinventnv at 2:40am 31st January 2010 i just think your both dumb lets not be so gullible
156. reinventnv at 2:35am 31st January 2010 we are the ipods ..... kinda like the hippies ... just where tho google age'd ipod users .. hmmm its kinda amazing
157. reinventnv at 2:32am 31st January 2010 truest words ever spoken .... right on
158. reinventnv at 2:09am 31st January 2010 well i use mine on occasion .. but your point is understandable
159. reinventnv at 1:55am 31st January 2010 dude what are you talking about the apple ipod is capable of playing wav files which is fully fledged un-conpressed music .... now if the zune could play flac then it would be another story.... but no ones got the space for all that now its all about how much crap you can load onto it.. and besides if its higher quality you want then get better earphones or use your computer dont come up with ignorant replies ir answers that defy what is due to common knowledge =)
160. reinventnv at 1:49am 31st January 2010 do you live in a hole
161. reinventnv at 1:48am 31st January 2010 its called the itouch not the apple .. wow
162. reinventnv at 1:42am 31st January 2010 well then why doesnt microsoft allow flash player games and why dont they make phones
163. reinventnv at 1:40am 31st January 2010 dude its all business apples taking their time because they gotta perfect their shit plus their known for quality and they dont have as much money as microsoft
164. reinventnv at 1:39am 31st January 2010 thats why we jail break.... and stop being a rigid ruler
165. reinventnv at 1:37am 31st January 2010 dude the zune hardly has any app's the zune is so dead no one has even taken the time to jailbreak them
166. JOhn at 7:51am 30th January 2010 another link to look at to see the similarity.. http://blog.fotogenia.info/wp-content/ipod-vs-z...
167. JOhn at 7:46am 30th January 2010 Apple copied creative when making their first mp3 players. Just putting that out there for the general public to know.. http://www.tuaw.com/2006/08/23/apple-pays-100m-...
168. anthonyspt at 6:58pm 28th January 2010 Zune has Audible support, even the old Zunes have Audible support. (Microsoft's codecs were what Audible was originally built around as they were the only solid DRM mechanism that book publishers would allow to be used when Audible was first launch in the late 90s.)
169. Sal at 10:11pm 27th January 2010 iPod Touch:
     - Huge selection of applications
     - Built in speaker
     - Larger screen
     - Focus is more on gaming and wireless internet
     
     Zune HD:
     - OLED screen
     - HD radio receiver
     - Lighter (Zune 2.6 ounces, Touch 4.05 ounces)
     - Focus is more on audio and video content
     
     Both devices have unique features that the other lacks. Preference depends on the person.
170. 6715243 at 11:07am 23rd January 2010 people arent looking in to the software/hardwear on the ipod touch.the ipods processor is a cortex-a8 it can support 720p out but the softwear cant just yet,it has voice control,support for mic and remote on headphones,volume rockers,great app store/music store,and ALOT more
171. pro zune at 5:28pm 13th January 2010 yes finaly i agree with pro zune bt not to say that the ipod is bad bt it freezes all the time like i had one for 2 weeks and i had to return it because it crashed all the time now ive had a zune for 2 months and it hasnt even slowed down
172. NadaLemming at 5:06pm 13th January 2010 ROTFL.. as someone who cut their teeth on BASIC and IBM ps/2 computers I fully agree with your analysis of the general population!
173. dang at 3:43pm 12th January 2010 Not all apps for the iPhone are silly fart/burp/drink apps. There are really useful ones.
     
     For example, I have a SSH application, pingdom application, news applications (yahoo, nytimes), google, twitter, IM, Yelp, dropbox, movie times, and more. All non-music/video related an all extremely useful to me.
174. awsomeboy at 3:35pm 12th January 2010 i todily agry why do you need all these stupig apps all i need is something that i can lisen to music on i woundnt even use the apps because there retarted.they dont even do anything. yha i want to pretend to drink beer. how fun is that.i think zune hd s are better. apple didnt even put radio on ipod tuches everyone wants to lisen to radio. like if you go to a workout place you would need radio to lisen to the tvs but ipod tuches cant do that
175. allen246 at 8:45pm 8th January 2010 waaaa? the zune is only 0.2 inches thicker! and i bet you dont even have the zune if you think it feels like a box in your hand! im not saying that the zune is perfect, because it doesnt even have a speaker, but its not crap, like you made it sound
176. theemster at 5:58pm 7th January 2010 dito
177. pedrogas at 4:30am 5th January 2010 a lot to play around.
     sorry
178. pedrogas at 4:29am 5th January 2010 yeah i have maid some apps in for the ipod touch that was funny but i have to pass by my Ebook its wasn't too easy i think,
     you can do apps for zune with the visual studio? if that the case i wanna buy one because with the tegra you had all to play around
179. Blop123 at 12:35pm 4th January 2010 Both, apps are free and music goes from 78-99MS. Movies and TV shows are about the same.
180. F*CK! at 12:34am 2nd January 2010 What the hell!!!
     stick with whatever you like...!
     sure crack out some 10 bucks more and you got a portable pc...
     or be 10 bucks cheaper and get the hd output and stuff...
     why does anyone have to suck and the other one has to be awesome?!
     why doesn't anyone say... they are both awesome..
     don't bring that mac vs pc feud over here!!
     they are PMP's and are meant for ENTERTAINMENT!!!
     
     and they are both great
181. F*CK! at 12:34am 2nd January 2010 What the hell!!!
     stick with whatever you like...!
     sure crack out some 10 bucks more and you got a portable pc...
     or be 10 bucks cheaper and get the hd output and shit...
     why does anyone have to suck and the other one has to be awesome?!
     why doesn't anyone say... they are both awesome..
     don't bring that mac vs pc feud over here!!
     they are PMP's and are meant for ENTERTAINMENT!!!
     
     and they are both great
182. tGM at 2:29pm 1st January 2010 dO yOU rEALLY cARE iF tHE cAPS aRE oN ?
183. zune owner/ipod touch owner :D at 2:16pm 31st December 2009 if you did some research you would know that the zune hd was rated better in sound quality over the ipod touch
184. atomicyoyo at 11:58am 31st December 2009 In reality this review is not very biased at all. The opinion of the author can be clearly seen, however he lays out the facts of each one and uses facts to show his opinion. I like both the ipod touch and the zune hd. They are both very nice devices. Why are you getting so worked up about it? Just use your ipod touch and leave it at that
185. ferrywayes at 9:52pm 30th December 2009 audio quality lacks advanced controls, you'll need to purchase a dock accessory for HD video output, application and game selection stinks, and the recommended music subscription plan puts the real-world cost higher than the iPod.
     
     
     dsi r4
186. Pooley at 1:53pm 30th December 2009 what about the access to thousands of apps?
187. Karan at 4:51am 30th December 2009 The reason that there is no Zune software for the Mac is because Macs hold only 3% of the market share- an insignificant amount. The amount you have to pay to the workers to recode a whole media player and import it to the mac will probably be higher than the profit microsoft will get from putting the Zune software on a mac!
     
     Apple, on the other hand, put iTunes on windows because Windows has a 96% market share on computers, so obviously, that and the fact that the iPod is pretty successful, they will reap benifits from putting it on Windows.
     
     Microsoft probably knows too that people who have Macs are probably hardcore Apple people who hate anything with the word 'Microsoft' in it, even if they haven't used it.
     
     Give the Zune time and it'll mature. It's only been out for 3 months for heaven's sake! Obviously there won't be many apps and there will be some teething problems.
188. Sam at 1:48pm 29th December 2009 The thing with iPod, is that everyone makes a big deal out of it. We all have to admit it's good, but it's not THAT good. People always jailbreak their iPods so they can get free apps and backgrounds, then they break their iPod, take it back to the store, but because they've fucked it up, it's literally worth nothing, so no iPod for them. Sure, it has 90,000 apps, 10,000 times more than the Zune, but who the hell cares? There are only 1000 of those apps that are actually worth it! Zune is a breath of fresh air. The only reason Microsoft hasn't advertised, and started shipping over the atlantic, and the reason in england, if you ask someone if they have a Zune they'll go "A what? A Zoom?" is because they're not stupid. Plus, they're a little scared and cautious. Give it a couple of years, Zune is in 1G, Ipod is in 3GS, but the Zune has already beat it, minus the app lack. In a few years, when a thirteen year old english kid can afford a Zune HD, it'll be better. Besides, Microsoft has the advantage. They have the Xbox 360. And Windows. Put them together in the shape of the Zune, and the iPod won't know what hit it.
189. Benji at 9:57pm 28th December 2009 Everyone keeps bringing up the fact that iPod users are mainstream and that everyone who posts a pro iPod comment is simply just following the crowd. Well those post in themselves show that Zune users are pro Zune because they are the underdog. There is a reason this forum is Zune Vs iPod and not ZUNE vs Sony Walkman or Samsung mp3 player VS iPod. That's because they are the two best out there.
190. Benji at 9:52pm 28th December 2009 Microsoft has nowhere near the engineer capability of MAC. If you look at all of the OS's that Microsoft has put out they have been half-done. Windows XP was stable but took 2 service packs. Vista was garbage that they had to quickly put out a new OS in such a short time frame. Windows 98 was pure garbage. Windows 95 was by far their most stable OS. MAC has never had any of those issues except for their first OS. Original Mac users had to type in codes to bring up their programs. PC's had the mouse
191. Benji at 9:44pm 28th December 2009 Are you aware that the Zune can use the MP4 video format while IPOD can use that as well as AVI format? AVI is a much better format for quality because it is so much larger. So of course quality is better. Convert the video to the HD format (I believe it is AVCHD... not sure) and then lets see the quality comparison. Also I don't want to hear someone else's music.
192. Vaxinati0n at 11:00pm 26th December 2009 Just got my ZuneHD. And it's amazing!! It's far more different that the ShitPod touch. Let's all get the pedo minigame! :D
193. Hello at 8:58pm 25th December 2009 like the ipod touch because of the applications. It allows you to type in text documents, there are more games and you can download dictionaries. Many of those applications are free. By the way, some of the flashlight applications are free. Why did you pay?
194. zunewin at 8:26pm 25th December 2009 The Zune HD is definately a better choice. I own one and my friend has an Ipod touch. He even agrees its faster, better resolution, lighter, better features, and the songs are cheaper. In my opinion it does better the the Ipodtouch on theyre first try vs. the Ipods 4th. Most of the Apps on the Ipod are a waste of time and energy. Instead of paying money for a white screen to use as a flashlight, i think ill buy a real one.
195. justin at 3:13pm 25th December 2009 heh this is the 1st gen of the zune hd and what gen is the ipod touch at???o ya the 3rd and here is something about the apps they just started making them so....give the microsoft 4 years that apple has had to improve the ipod touch and then lets see because right now the zune is keeping up with the ipod touch with there "1ST GENERATION" and the ipod is on their 3rd generation so a fair match huh?
196. I hate Apple & Microsoft at 5:13pm 24th December 2009 Dude, you'd be better off with a $300 Netbook.
197. Real Life at 4:50pm 24th December 2009 An Ipod Touch also has an English tutor application to help you with your atrocious writing. Sorry, but if you buy a Zune, Microsoft assumes you are in fact Intelligent Life (it says so in the User Agreement) so you shouldn't need one.
198. jslizzy413 at 1:10pm 23rd December 2009 Zune is more focused on being an Mp3 player and iPod touch is more on the App and Internet browsing side. Get over it you bunch of whiny people, Yea people like Apple so what? Stop crying about How iPod does this and How iPod does that. Honestly I say Who cares?
199. Marth Eliwood at 8:05am 22nd December 2009 Hey it is easier to get Zune for music cuz u dont have to sync to only one computer.....and u can download music for free like frostwire...limewire....bearshare...etc.
200. you don't need to know my name at 10:17pm 20th December 2009 the apps are completely dominated by apple... but zune has better quality apps... like the app, Audiosurf Tilt... it's got really good graphics... i think zune is better than an iPod Touch tho.. especially when we come to the quality...
201. Señor at 8:25pm 20th December 2009 This Comparison seemed quite bias. Not the video.
202. zuneftw at 7:13pm 20th December 2009 Ok guys, im just saying I had an I-Pod nano 1st gen 16GB and it broke in six months and this is is when it was first released it cost me $280.00 + about $1000 worth of songs.
     
     We now have the same thing but it is a Zune it cost 3/4 of the price and it has lasted 2 years and is still going strong. I am now giving this to my mother of an exchange a Zune HD.
     
     I am very very happy and I believethis is a great brand.
203. Jon at 1:25pm 19th December 2009 trying to decide which one you are going to get really depends on who you are, what you want, and what you believe, I want apps, but im willing to buy a Zune, because to me its a good mp3 player, and how many people at your high school have an ipod touch? way too many i want to be different and not just the same, and so im going to buy a Zune HD. Many of you will way oh but Ipod i better, maybe but not for me, for me Zune is better and that is pure fact
204. sher at 12:51pm 19th December 2009 I am going to bring my zune hd intrhe store it sucks not much application and i cant use internet as slow and connecting forever...i am going to chasnge with apple more better...goodluck all with your thoughts.
205. arkash at 9:30am 18th December 2009 Watch this video people!!!
     And i think it is unbiased!!!You can be the judge over which is better...
     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW-1H0nrjOY
206. Music and Media player at 8:16pm 16th December 2009 what we need to think of is which product is better when there is no wifi around?...what do you do then ipod guys?....who cares about browseing speed....its a music and video player that we want....and who in normal use is going to be sitting in public with their ipod touch up to there ear listening to the monotone sounds coming out of it instead of using ear phones????????
207. PokerSmith at 5:00pm 14th December 2009 I own a 32 gb Ipod Touch 3G and I absollutely love it.
     I would like to point out that unlike and Iphone, Ipod touch does not have a build-in GPS as the author mentioned in the 'App Support' category above.
208. killer at 4:33pm 14th December 2009 this has to be one of the dumbest things I've heard, microsoft copied apple? gtfo
209. no at 7:41pm 13th December 2009 im afraid that the zune hd doesnt feel like a brick. the old zunes were, but this one?? no. and btw, the zune hd is actually quite thin. the difference is hardly noticeable
210. danny at 3:49pm 13th December 2009 6122059286
211. hells ya at 11:20am 13th December 2009 hahahaha true that zune could be like an italian sports car
212. hells ya at 11:18am 13th December 2009 they are ooh direct tv wow we need that and micro cars zune is developing apps to they might b more useful or not im not saying the ipod sucks or anything but the zune HD is better thats an opinion
213. hellsya at 11:10am 13th December 2009 oo wow that was 2000 this is now they didnt come up with the zune or the zune HD or the zune or anything else they came up with the ipod fuck them
214. hellsya at 11:10am 13th December 2009 oo wow that was 2000. this is now. they didnt come up with the zune or the zune HD or the zune or anything else they came up with the ipod
215. hells ya at 11:06am 13th December 2009 exactly last time i checked they were for listening to music not apps apple can suck my balls
216. hells ya at 11:06am 13th December 2009 exactly last time i checked they were for listening to music not apps
217. hells ya at 11:03am 13th December 2009 no retard the zune hd not zune and oh wow 2 inchs diagnally with an HDscreen how do u like them apples
218. hells ya at 11:03am 13th December 2009 no, the zune hd not zune and oh wow 2 inchs diagnally with an HDscreen how do u like them apples
219. Ma3 at 5:46am 13th December 2009 damn i dont know which one to get ''/
220. Hello at 5:12am 13th December 2009 For me, apps can matter. I am not a person who listens to music or watch too many videos. I am some kind of blogger and I need to type out my posts on the go. The ipod touch has aided me in that aspect, there is a free app on app store that allows you to edit word documents, and there is also an app that is a dictionary and thesaurus, I think the keyboard is big and easy to type on. There is also stanza, that app lets you download free e-books(some of them are free, not all). And the games are also good. I only downloaded the free stuff though.
221. dang at 7:16pm 12th December 2009 Do apps matter? It just depends who you are. If you are an audiophile, not so much. But I love the touch when you are in places that you need to kill time. Playing something like Bejeweled, or chatting over IM is great.
222. dang at 6:41pm 12th December 2009 No one is going to take what you say seriously if you have to type in all caps.
223. dang at 6:40pm 12th December 2009 Hahaha
224. Tom at 6:15pm 12th December 2009 Finally a genuine review. Yeah, Microsoft knows how to come up with a good product. Sound quality is superior compared to Apple even to Creative. Design? That what you call slick, ellegant. And apps? who bloody cares about them its fun for 5 mins. Anyway this little thing is more powerfull than any device on the market right now. Yeah i mean decoding HD files and games.NVIDIA rulez. So get it while you can. Yeah and Zune Soft is just pleasure to use. Nick CONGRATS for good review.
225. nicko at 11:00am 12th December 2009 unleash the CAPS LOCK why dont you?
226. Hello at 3:20am 11th December 2009 Well, I hoped to use it to type in my essays.
227. dang at 9:50pm 10th December 2009 For writing? I wouldn't use either. What exactly do you mean by writing?
228. Hello at 8:51pm 10th December 2009 I would like to ask a hypotical question. If I am a writer and I want to find a device that I can use for writing, would the ipod touch be better or would the zune?
     1. r a s at 10:27am 12th August 2010 lol neither. perhaps a laptop or a phone with microsoft office mobile.
229. Hello at 8:50pm 10th December 2009 Pardon me for saying, but the weight difference isn't really that much is it?
230. ... at 10:03pm 9th December 2009 you can't compare browsing of an mp3 player to a phone...
231. jwong87 at 10:03pm 9th December 2009 you can't compare browsing of an mp3 player to a phone...
232. dang at 9:21pm 9th December 2009 Cheaper for what? Music or apps?
233. dang at 9:17pm 9th December 2009 holy cow, do you have to type with all caps? It makes me want to delete your comment for that fact alone.
234. philbet at 5:46pm 9th December 2009 zune is making apps
     and the zune Hd is axactly the same shape and size as the ipod touch
     besides microsoft will never match the # of costomers that apple has
235. philbert at 5:44pm 9th December 2009 zune marketplace is cheaper
236. Jay at 5:18pm 9th December 2009 Point blank: if u want something to play with, buy a touch....if u want music on a player that looks good, buy an HD
237. Alpha Spec at 11:07am 9th December 2009 "in the video they are comparing an iphone to a zune hd, the iphone runs web browsing off of wirelless connection which is faster than a wifi conection."
     
     As far as I understand "wireless", and "wifi" in terms of internet connection is the same thing.
238. Jon at 9:47am 9th December 2009 This is to LOL! Just so you know if you go back and actually read what they wrote they said that apple won for apps! And I totally disagree with you, being lighter is better because say you are running, you don't want something that heavy bouncing around in your pocket!!!
239. Ian Bell at 9:19am 9th December 2009 Dude, are you serious? Have you even used both of them, or did you just buy the iPod and that's why you are backing it? Why does the Zune have to support the Mac? Ever stop to think that maybe Apple doesn't want to support the Zune and that's why it doesn't work on the Mac? Most people still do not use a Mac, so I don't see what the big deal is.
     
     Personally, I am glad to see an in-depth comparison of the two.
240. Adam Williams at 12:51am 9th December 2009 This review seemed very biased in my opinion. Did a Microsoft official write this? Especially as far as the Software went. Zune only offers there software for Windows PC while iTunes is available on Macs and PC. That is a key point that you failed to make and should have easily gave Apple the upper hand. I was also disappointed that you didn't compare them as far as how easy each one is to use. I think you need to do some more hand-on-hand research on stay away from what you read on the internet. 2/5 stars.
241. austin98989 at 10:01pm 8th December 2009 Zune hd has a faster internet now if not the same speed at-least with the new 4.3 update. But i still wish it had flash support so i could get on youtube.com to watch videos like the ipod can =(
242. rojohombre at 1:15pm 8th December 2009 ok, I WAS going to refrain from veering off topic on this discussion on ZuneHD vs I-Touch, but I cannot stop myself from responding to one of ZuneHDrules statements which is "Microsoft can design better than any company." with all due respect, ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? all I can say is, the latest apple commercials on MS vs Mac (I'm sorry, i can't bring myself to say "PC vs Mac" because they are ALL PCs you dimwitted non-tech USERS. pc stands for personal computer, not a microsoft, or an apple computer. personal) are on the money with the thing about "I'm the safest, and the best MS OS to date! no blue screen here buddy!". yeah right. seriously zunehdrules, think before you make a comment like that. ok, sorry. rant is over. :-)
243. rojohombre at 12:47pm 8th December 2009 I like your analogy here, even though in this case the roles are reversed, as in this case the older is better than the new. nice...
244. rojohombre at 12:40pm 8th December 2009 WOW...this is so refreshing to see. someone that "gets it". when it comes to comparing the 2, it has nothing to do with performance (cuz they both are kick ass good), it has to do with what you want to do with it. thank you irvn. you've restored my faith...heheheheheh
245. rojohombre at 12:36pm 8th December 2009 this kind of response really gets to me...it's like your saying "my dad can beat up your dad"...so what!! yeah you're right. the zune doesn't have a REALLY crappy built-in speaker on it. SHAME on MS for leaving one out. what are you, like 4 or something? :-)
246. rojohombre at 12:31pm 8th December 2009 hey kent, the reason they hold off on adding those features when they can, is because they will put them on the next version for you to buy then also. simple logic. your money equals their pockets. get it? of course MS does this also. it's called business. :-) and while the zune is remarkable, apple has of course been working on the "next big thing" for the touch and will introduce it soon (since this version is getting old after all) and it will grab a whole new customer base as well, as old ones (since I see several people here saying they have multiple devices). personally, i can only see having one at a time and will just stick to that thank you. i have to let one break before I can buy another one (I hear my parents' voices saying why are you wasting money???). heheheh...oh wells
247. rojohombre at 12:11pm 8th December 2009 ok, you obviously work for apple, know someone who works for apple, or are just an apple fanatic...heheheh...just kidding with ya dude. seriously man, if you're gonna lay down such that much coin, just get an i-phone cuz that's really what an i-touch is, minus the phone, at almost the same price. as for your remarks about the zune features. don't you think all the options it has should be factored in it's quality? the i-touch apps are cool I give you. but the zune is more than likely going to have some good ones too, but I don't care about that. because this is supposed to be a PMP not a "everything to everyone" kind of device. everybody jumps on MS for wanting to be so prominent in every aspect of our lives (and yes, I am one of those jumpers. heheheh), but Apple is just as bad at it, and this is a case of that very situation. they can't just give you a device that connects you to your media (like the zune did), oh no, they have to throw in the "our apps are better than yours" thing. uuuh, of course they are, the touch has been around longer, so they should be. bottom line, zune is better quality for the price. nuff said. :-)
248. rojohombre at 11:54am 8th December 2009 Hey dude, I have to agree with you on this note. Every single difference you just spoke of, is the very reason I'm going to get a zune instead of a touch. I mean come on people, he's right. these products are being marketed as PMPs, not mini computers. so let's judge them accordingly. what I think is so funny is the fact that the touch is essentially an i-phone without the calling function, and yet, you want to spend almost as much for it! wow. doesn't make sense to me. must just be me I guess. if I'm going to buy a product, i buy the best for the money. and in this instance, I'm sorry (mainly cuz I hate the evil empire that is MS. lol), but the zune is the best product for the money in my opinion.
249. rojohombre at 11:41am 8th December 2009 Well, for one, how about a lack of the audible format support? Don't get me wrong, I'm getting a zune. The oled screen is too much to let pass by. But, I did find the lack of audible support ridiculous. I primarily use my mp3 player for podcasts, listening to my own ripped music, etc... Coincidentally, it lacked audible support also. It would've been nice to listen to books also, but hey, you get used to not having everything you want. But, I would've thought that since MS wanted a I-touch killer, they would've included this in the formula. The screen and the wireless syncing are the 2 real reasons I'm getting zune over touch. but you asked for a reason. I couldn't resist giving you one. :-)
     1. @xFALLENxWICKEDx at 9:42pm 18th December 2010 They have stories on podcasts and you can just download from other sources.
     2. dave at 8:49am 8th January 2011 crap to the lot of yo coz the apple is better
     3. dave at 8:50am 8th January 2011 zune is crap
250. metalhead25 at 2:10pm 7th December 2009 You have yet to mention anything about what it is about the touch that makes it better than the zune HD. Here we have another example of some ipod fanboy who has no legitimacy behind his comments.
251. metalhead25 at 2:10pm 7th December 2009 You have yet to mention anything about what it is about the touch that makes it better than the zune HD. Here we have another example of some retarded ipod fanboy who has no legitimacy behind his comments.
252. Wally Bag o' Donuts at 1:33pm 7th December 2009 Ipod Touch= The ultimate Pocket PC with the Apps and AdvancedWeb Browser
     Zune HD= The Ultimate Music, video and gaming device.
     It comes down to what you are looking for in a handheld device. I want a device that plays my music, vids and games. Sure the Touch can do all that but the Zune HD has a step up with the OLED screen, which is amazing, and a more responsive Accelerometer, as shown with Audiosurf.
     1. STEVEN at 6:51pm 25th December 2010 go check out the the ipod touch 4g.then you will see that zune just got PWND
253. unbiased77 at 7:27am 7th December 2009 hey dumb ass have u thought that the speakers just might be good for playing games and apps . not music . ignorant
254. unbiased77 at 7:27am 7th December 2009 have u thought that the speakers just might be good for playing games and apps instead of music?
255. biker at 9:05am 6th December 2009 thanks for the thorough review, I mostly want it for videos and music,not the 75,000 apps IPOD has.I pretty much made my decision now thanks again guys
     1. steven at 6:53pm 25th December 2010 it akuly has 100000000 apps dumbass
256. hello at 1:43am 6th December 2009 May I ask, what games does the zune have? I'm thinking of getting.
257. Scott at 1:40pm 5th December 2009 Zune is way better, Who cares about that app garbage. OoooOoOoOoO look im drinking beer!! The Zune sounds better and the ipod is for followers. And as far as the software goes who cares about Apple has more songs on their database there are things out there called torrents. I use torrents all the time and have 5,000 songs on my Zune and havent paid for any of that 1 dollar a song.
     1. steven at 6:54pm 25th December 2010 it will just double
258. appleneedslife at 3:44pm 4th December 2009 Apple is so way not better with sound quality and I really don't get this thing with the apps. One of the touch's big things is e-mail which is nice but if you have a gmail account you can just go to google.com and do e-mail there-that is unless your to lazy to hit 4 extra buttons.
259. John at 3:22pm 4th December 2009 The matter of the fact is; the iPhone/Touch are pop culture phenomenons. No company ever expected the response from a complete touch device and now everyone IS copying them to get market share. Secondly, the Zune HD is alot better than the iPod touch but let's be honest. The apps (applications -_-) are the prime reason people love this device, and by Microsoft not putting emphasis on this is not a good idea at all. But like i said before, the iPod touch came first, and there can be something better than it, but it will never have the same impact the iPod touch had ... I'm just saying lol
260. canurmacplaycrysis at 1:07pm 4th December 2009 truly fanboys are annoying... i say get the most future proof device (zune) like i bought a 5870 hd radeon for the fact it is future proof i am not a ati person i perfer nvidia but the 295 dosent support x11 sooooo yeah the itouch is a good device all around but man the zune is so much more powerful and much more potential but then again im pretty anti apple ever since i got into pc building i nver liked apple no fun really u buy what you get and u stick with it no fun there wow and cod 4 were a pain to play on a mac as well game porting to a mac is also really bad
261. canurmacplaycrysis at 9:15am 4th December 2009 finally a review thats not apple bias >_> so many apple fanboys its annoying i think steve jobs is a gypsy or sumthing lol
262. canurmacplaycrysis at 9:12am 4th December 2009 all of zunes apps right now are free >_>
263. Rick at 8:24am 4th December 2009 The back of my ZuneHD says, "Assembled in china." Haha.
264. skied6 at 2:22pm 3rd December 2009 Dude its like if you take a piece of crap and sprinkle some apple shavings on it... it may be an apple, but its still a piece of crap
265. Tyler at 9:39am 2nd December 2009 Very true but this video was made by someone who is a fan of the ipod touch 3g... biased information
266. dang at 9:37am 2nd December 2009 This made my day...haha
267. Tyler at 9:31am 2nd December 2009 Too bad about your idea but ZuneHD is way better. Ipod touch can not compare to the device. Apple is a fruit and the company if fruity and anyone who owns and Ipod and knows about ZuneHD is a fruit too. ZuneHD is superior to a fruit since the name. Zune is its own original name there is no word in the English dictionary using the word Zune but iPod was used from two words I and Pod. Get the picture? IPod copies other companies and adds good looks to it. They SUCK
268. Tyler at 9:31am 2nd December 2009 Too bad about your idea but ZuneHD is way better. Ipod touch can not compare to the device. Apple is a fruit and the company if fruity and anyone who owns and Ipod and knows about ZuneHD is a fruit too. ZuneHD is superior to a fruti since the name. Zune is its own orginal name there is no word in the english dictionary using the word Zune but I-Pod was used from two words I and Pod. Get the picture? IPod copies other companies and adds good looks to it. They SUCK
269. Nonya business at 9:23am 2nd December 2009 *cough* one of the retards *cough*
270. JJ at 7:12pm 30th November 2009 umm, im sorry to interrupt but i had 2 after wat gordon jus said. do u not know that the new 4.3 version update to the zune hd makes the browser waay better and so much faster that it can now beat the speed of the ipod touch safari browser. dont beleive me. I dnt feel like finding the link. but go to youtube and type in zune hd 4.3 ibrowser vs. ipod touch. look who wins the majority of the tests. BUDDY.
     1. Devin at 7:05am 6th January 2011 And now with the 4.5 update its even better! :P
271. mo mo at 4:03pm 30th November 2009 but what you don't get is, people want MORE than just music these days. if we just wanted music we'd just make mix cd's.
272. Mr SIre at 2:29pm 30th November 2009 I don’t know why no one has addressed the biggest debate. As mp3 player they both suck! You have to restart your library all over with both of them. If your using a standard mp3 player that cost $20 you can get rhapsody for $15 a month and have unlimited music available at your disposal and share with other mp3. With ipod crap you have to buy all the music. Zune, you can buy music but you can only share (with the very small amount of other owners) songs for 3 times then the other guy has to buy it. There both a rip off if you’re looking at the actual usage of an mp3 player. For $300+ I should have any headaches. I want music when I want it. Download when I want it and keep what I want without paying an arm and a leg. So I guess unless I want a bunch of other bells and whistles I can try and figure out between the 2, but if I just want music, I can spend $20 and have more options available than a $300 toy box. These two monster companies and this is the best either can do???... What a shame.
     1. Devin at 7:04am 6th January 2011 Why not just rip your CDs? And btw the Zune has amazing sound quality!
273. MicroUser at 1:53pm 30th November 2009 My friend has the Zune HD, which I will buy soon, but I compared the screens, WOW, the OLED screen is really nice and I can tell Microsoft put alot of effort into it. I am VERY Impressed. I currently own the zune 80 GB and I want a nicer display so I will buy the Zune HD. Even though Apple did have the Ipod touch before the Zune HD, I beleive if the Zune HD and the Itouch came out at the same time, Zune HD would win by a mile, I owned Ipods for all my life before My Zune 80, they all broke within a year or so, Apple gets its products from cheap Chinese garbage that is WAAAAAAY overpriced.
274. Ollie at 9:15am 30th November 2009 yeah yeah, but when it comes to media players, it's never 'can i see your new, er, zune?' it will always be 'can i check out your iPod.' and not your computer's songs, but 'let's have a look at your iTunes.' in the same way that you don't ask for a cola drink, you ask for a Coke, Apple own this marketplace and continue to be way way more desirable
     
     everyone else might outdo certain iPods in certain areas, but it's all just playing catch up.
     1. lololol at 1:24pm 28th August 2010 stupid comparisons
     2. Izaya at 12:34am 3rd January 2011 I'm not going to pay $70 more to be able to call myself a sheep following the herd. I don't give a damn what the rest of the world uses to listen to their music - everyone has their own opinion, and I can respect that because I too have one of my own. I've been torn between the two all day, reading reviews constantly and browsing their stores and customization features. But I'm sure not thinking about what other people will think. P.S. iTunes is balls. Try Winamp on for size.
275. HunterJ at 8:15am 30th November 2009 Which one is better for movies and Which one last longer internally?
     1. Devin at 7:03am 6th January 2011 Zune HD.
276. Erick at 6:16pm 29th November 2009 Yeah I am an iPod user and it is a great device, but I am too tired of everyone just following the crowd and not giving zune a chance. The Zune HD is a very impressive device and I think it's also good competition for the itouch. It has amazing features and could easily surpass the ipod in a few years if apple doesn't step up their game. What people need to understand is whether you have the itouch or Zune HD your going to have a badass mp3 player. I mean you can't lose either way so what is everyone complaining about?
277. Brandon at 11:01am 29th November 2009 This review is a little bit bias.
     I mean the Apple's internet WiFi for the touch is a LOT faster than the Zune HD.
     However, most of these facts are seemingly true. I am more of an Ipod Person but this review gives me little doubts about the ipod now. =)
     1. Devin at 7:02am 6th January 2011 Actually with the 4.5 update for the Zune it isn't.
278. TMAN at 9:14pm 28th November 2009 in the video they are comparing an iphone to a zune hd, the iphone runs web browsing off of wirelless connection which is faster than a wifi conection.
279. iZune at 3:36pm 28th November 2009 It's true what you say, but you don't review potential. you compare what the product is now, because you buy the product you don't buy potential.I don't want to be attacked for saying this, but i have heard that the OLED screen doesn't do well in the sun. As for the apps, if 1,000 of the apps are the same, then 74,000 aren't. I think that's a pretty good number. in addition, you say the zune apps are actually something you can use, THOSE APPS ALREADY COME WITH THE iPOD. moving on, i'm not going to enforce my views on anyone, because which PMP you buy depends on the person. I bought my ipod touch for games, not music, but if you want a device for music and looks, get a zune.
280. ZuneHDrules at 9:16am 28th November 2009 I think the zune hd is way better than the ipod touch. Most of the people have a windows computer while virtually about 1% have macs. Microsoft can design better than any company. Apple had to make their products compatible with windows so a lot of people can buy it. True that Apple has 75,000+ apps, but most of them are useless with about 1000 of them the same thing. All of the Zune's apps are actually something that you can use. And there's no 5,000 versions of the same app. Plus the zune has a better screen, better sound quality (with some better headphones than the ones microsoft or apple gives you), a radio, FREE games, and much more. This is microsoft's first generation of a touchscreen PMP and already! it competes with apple's THIRD generation of a PMP. If you would compare microsoft's first gen zune hd with apple's first gen touch, it would be very clear to see which company can make the better PMP.
281. Dena C. at 12:24pm 27th November 2009 he speaks the truth... apple has just made it's own niche in the MP3 player world-- and they have very appealing marketing-- the zune is a beyond worth competitor. microsoft needs to step up their own advertising campaigns for most of their products, because apple brings the flash and jazz to it's commercials making it just a little more appealing to audiences.
282. Dena C. at 12:24pm 27th November 2009 he speaks the truth... apple has just made it's own niche in the MP3 player world-- and they have very appealing marketing-- the zune is a beyond worthy competitor. microsoft needs to step up their own advertising campaigns for most of their products, because apple brings the flash and jazz to its commercials
283. mrchop at 7:53pm 26th November 2009 I got a Zune HD 16gb a while ago and must say I love it. I had an iPod Touch for a while, but became sick of iTunes and their policies. (I actually pay for music and didn't find iTunes fair for purchases.) Once you go Apple, they make it a total b*tch to go back. I'm lucky I got out of using iTunes this early or I would have wasted more the the $80 I did on music that's no-good on any other platform or player. The Zune HD is a VERY solid device to have. The screen is perfect for movies. (yes I watch them on little devices) AudioSurf is the perfect game for a media player and the visuals are impeccable. The music store is great, but is lacking somewhat in artist quantity. Music quality is awesome, but no FLAC or OGG support leaves me a bit disappointed. The internet surfing and application store are a total meh-fest for now, but all I really wanted was music and video at high quality. The battery life makes it a must-have for long rides. I absolutely love the interface after a little while to get used to it. To be honest I can't see myself going back to the apple regime. I don't really want to.
284. JFrisbee at 6:16pm 26th November 2009 Everyone says Ipod is better because it has thousands of apps... ok fine yes they do... but how many did they have with the first generation apple Ipod Touch? think about it you look at comparisons between a 3rd generation Ipod Touch and a Zune HD of course the Ipod is going to be better its been around a lot longer... for those that have had an Ipod Touch when they first came out I doubt there was thousands of apps when it first came out... so seriously if you want a true comparison between Ipod and Zune try comparing what Ipod had when it first came out... or its like comparing the first ever car and a new car it doesn't work... of course the new car is going to be nicer
     1. ej8989 at 3:40am 28th October 2010 that's not the case. the case is, am i gonna buy the zunehd or the ipod touch? which then is the better option? a polished pmp which has already massive amount of app developers? or a newly introduced pmp that has a very good UI? i somwhat think the zunehd has a better user interface and cooler graphics and transitions, it also has these very cool artist pages (that plays when you play a song), but the ipod touch offers more than that. if you only do music, video, and photos, go for zunehd. (really better in those aspects.) if you wanna play N.O.V.A (my favorite ipod touch app, really cool graphics) go for ipod touch. it is really based on personal preference. if i had the money, i will buy a 32gb zunehd for my music and videos, then i will buy an 8gb ipod touch for apps, games, and internet browsing only. they are both good so stop comparing them
285. Pomp at 9:57am 26th November 2009 nuh uh apple sucks
286. dang at 4:06pm 25th November 2009 Not to be a stickler, but Apple did not invent the mp3 player. There were many out before the iPod. None of them were as elegant in the whole solution (player and software).
287. jonny cash at 3:36pm 25th November 2009 stop being gay apple is better because it invented this crap then everyone went in and copied them you dont like it when people copy you do you???????????
     1. r s a at 8:29am 12th August 2010 It didn't invent anything, just re- invented things. Though, they did invent the first GUI computer.
        1. Darren at 12:20am 22nd December 2010 Apple didn't invent it, a worker from Phillips did and they bought him out of it. And they didn;t invent the GUI computer either, xerox did and Apple copied them
     2. apple/zune man at 6:40am 11th January 2011 realy man think about it the first pc was wasnt a mac or apple so in retro spec they copyed the original they would never be where they are without copying them
288. jonny cash at 3:36pm 25th November 2009 apple is better because it invented this crap then everyone went in and copied them you dont like it when people copy you do you???????????
289. SHORTIE at 10:58am 25th November 2009 I think the zune hd is better. i've never had a ipod, so idk if they both do this or not. but the hd puts yur music and pics in order from date folder and alphabetical order. I'm ocd and if my stuff isn't categorized right i can arrange music and pics.
290. SHORTIE at 10:50am 25th November 2009 THE IPOD TOUCH AND ZUNE HD BOTH HAVE Calculator, weather, etc APPS
     
     I WENT TO YOUTUBE TO WATCH SOME AMAZING VIDEOS FOR THE HD I WANT ONE CAUSE IT HAS A SCREEN SAVER MORE RADIO STATIONS THE PICS SLIDE AND ROTATES WITH THE ZUNE HD. THE HD HAS INTERNET, SLIDESHOWS, MUSIC,VIDEOS, PICS,APPS, ALREADY INSTALIED FOR U. I LIKE THE MICROST IT COME WITH. I HAVE A 30GB ZUNE I HAVE HAD FOR 3 YEARS NOW. THE HD LOOKS AWESOME. I LOVE THE PRICE. 219.99 I THINK, FOR THE 16GBHD AND THE 32 GB IS CLOSE TO $300.
     
     I LIKE THE HD CAUSE IT HAS DIFFRENT COLORS IT'S COMING IN RED SOON
     1. frozen99 at 11:38am 22nd December 2010 What happened to your caps lock key?
291. austin98989 at 7:54am 25th November 2009 yes the Zune HD has internet And HD video
292. PTO at 10:08pm 24th November 2009 does the Zune Hd have internet I mean can you get on facebook or a website with the Wi-fi
293. PTO at 10:07pm 24th November 2009 is there internet on the Zune Hd, I mean can you get facebook or load a website with the Wi-Fi
     1. Devin at 6:59am 6th January 2011 Yes it has blazing fast web browser, equal to that of the 4th gen touch I would almost say.
294. dude at 4:30pm 24th November 2009 its all on ur opinon, but i do agree i dont like fan boys, i really perfer the zune hd over the i touch
295. UncertainBuyer at 4:20pm 24th November 2009 Fantastic article!
296. nick at 11:09am 24th November 2009 im sorry but the zune hd is ligit looking
297. Ian Bell at 8:07pm 23rd November 2009 Buy both and return the one you don't like.
298. Yeagmeister at 7:52pm 23rd November 2009 I am feeling the same as you Ale, I want the best product for the money, but the more i read the more i am torn. I like the zune hd screen , batt life and look. The ipod touch however seems to have the most bang for your buck. Man i am sick of not having the decisive info to move fwd with a purchase.
299. Ale at 4:16pm 23rd November 2009 i dont know which to decide i want to get the i touch but hten again i wanna get the zune hd they both look really cool. i just dont want to regret waisting my money on something crappy
300. jackfalk at 9:51am 23rd November 2009 iphone runs off the sattelite internet shit thingy and there comparing web browsing speeds obviously that is going to be faster than connecting to wifi
     1. Devin at 6:57am 6th January 2011 Actually its slower.
301. irvn at 5:58pm 21st November 2009 So here I am, where I was years ago when the 1G ipod nano came out. I resisted ipod until I had to give in as nothing else could compare with the size and ecosystem the apple/nano offered. Now finally there is an alternative. I was considerating a touch but the zune HD is a compelling option.
     
     All this talk of which is better is really just matter of preference or intended use. If you are only interested in pmp, then clearly zune is a better package. If you already spend 10 a month in itunes, then 5 more gets you unlimited access to explore new music without risk, plus you get to keep 10 songs each month (based on the review anyway)
     If you want a pocket pc that surfs the web, plays games and apps in addition to playing music then the ipod is a better value. If the zune had bluetooth as the 3G touch now has, my decision would be made. Unwired headphones has been such an important feature for me, I use my nano with a dongle not to have to deal with tangled wires. Either way the existence and success of the zune will only benefit ipod fans, forcing apple to continue it's innovations so everyone wins if zune HD succeeds.
302. Mr. Anti-Zune at 9:01pm 20th November 2009 The iPod touch is much better. First of all, it has the best touchscreen response. And the zune hd doesn't offer many free apps. Instead, microsoft had to be so greedy and only offer 4 apps, which are apps that the ipod touch already comes with. (Calculator, weather, etc) The Zune HD doesn't have built in speakers, and many other feautures the ipod touch has.
     1. 7up at 12:13pm 7th September 2010 well most of the free apps are only lite and you end up having to pay for the FULL thing. and who cares if it doesn't have built in speakers, you have to tell everyone in the room to shut up to be able to hear it anyway.
     2. gordon47isafanboy at 5:58am 15th September 2010 use earphones man. the earphones that come with the zune arent the best,(im an audiophile/tech geek) but they beat the crappy ipod earphones by a LONG shot. and the zune hd touchscreen is actually more responsive. you n00b. u dont even own one. Im not spouting crap,because i actually have one. and btw,with speakers,the iPod touch battery drains even faster. i got 30 min on tap tap mid volume speaker. lowest screen brightness.
     3. Paul Peterson at 5:57am 16th December 2010 Alright first of all every app ive gotten from microsoft was free and right now i have 36 four or five including interactive games such as vans sk8 pool service.. so before u start ragging on zune get one yourself, your nothing more than an apple fan boy..... And microsoft is doing like the english in the 1600s improving on whats already been made, and throwing all the cheap crap like a speaker that has poor quality...
     4. Devin at 7:56am 6th January 2011 All of the 42 apps for the Zune HD are free, including full fledged 3d games. Also there are hundreds of XNA apps available online for it. But apps aren't its main thing-its main thing is media and being the evolution of the PMP. NOT a devolution of a smartphone model.
303. kakzyyy at 5:41pm 20th November 2009 i am either qettinq a zune hd and an ipod touch sometime soon and i just have one thinq 2 say about the zune: unlike the iPod, it comes in different colors and you can put designs on the back which makes it more you and personalized.
304. yo momma at 5:40pm 20th November 2009 i am either qettinq a zune hd and an ipod touch sometime soon and i just have one thinq 2 say about the zune: unlike the iPod, it comes in different colors and you can put designs on the back which makes it more you and personalized.
305. iLikezunes at 3:02pm 20th November 2009 I have to admit im an apple fanboy. I had an iPod touch 8 Gig. It was awesome.
     Then it got stolen. But you have to admit that the Zune HD is pretty awesome.
     Im getting 1 soon.
306. elissa at 10:42am 20th November 2009 shimar , the ipod touch preforms just like the iphone ( even the ipod is better )
     1. gordon47isafanboy at 5:53am 15th September 2010 the Iphone has a slightly faster processor.
307. AppleFailsHard! at 9:14pm 19th November 2009 Ya I'm tired of those fan-boys too, them with their i-pods saying they are awesome and they are the best and talking about the "Apps"(why do you even call it that, i know it means applications but WHY?)while Zune has Audio surf ! ! ! ! ! AUDIOSURF!!!!!!!!
     1. applefailshardsAdBag at 7:04pm 1st August 2010 Why do people call applications apps? It's called an abbreviation.
308. Kent at 6:23pm 19th November 2009 I still don't get why Apple always hides or purposely not add features, like bluetooth, which could have been used on the 2nd Gen Touch maybe even on a 1st gen, and they now add the feature, and why can't they add a camera or a mic to the ipod touch? Zune HD has good quality screen, but the app store is amazing as well. This review was a little biased towards Zunes but I think its a tie, App store equals all the qualities of an Zune HD. I also hate those that say "Who has a Zune? It sucks." when they haven't even seen one before.
309. Denon at 4:08pm 19th November 2009 Apple sucks, Microsoft sucks.
     
     Lets look at both sides of the story first. The Touch has been around alot longer than the HD soo think of it this way, it was way ahead of its time, and not one single portable player out there could touch it, it has since been almost 4 years now. Mac has alot of ideas they can throw into a new touch. On the other hand the HD has been under design for over 2 years now, with one thing in mind, crush the ipod touch. Yes its has OLED , HD output, and more batt life. But think of it this way. Do u think APPLE has just been selling them making rediculous amounts of money without one second thinking about all the new technology they can throw into it? Back to microsoft, With the new atom processor out, who knows WHAT MS will do next, The HD is the first step towards new platforms and new standards for all PMPS out there
310. shimar kimbal at 9:01pm 18th November 2009 the video that you are using to compare the two is between the zune hd and the ipod phone. I am neither a fan of either but merely researching the difference of the two, but you cannot compare a phone and a PMP. I would post another link to a video than that one.
     1. New001 at 1:41am 12th July 2010 just stop talking. i think i just became dumber just from reading this. first of all they are both pmp's. and second of all learn proper english just saying
311. austin98989 at 8:09pm 18th November 2009 Who actualy uses ipod touches built in speaker
     
     (NO ONE) Enough said
312. mclearu at 3:15pm 18th November 2009 why are u fighting over which is better when every one in the world has different opinions
313. JeffMa at 9:30am 18th November 2009 Just saying, everything is leaning towards the Microsoft side when in reality it really isn't the best thing out there. Wasn't impressed at all. My Zune HD didn't compare to most of those "claims", while at least my Ipod has. So I see them at the same level if not Ipod slightly better. And if people think i'm an Ipod fan boy, they couldn't be more wrong. I had a Zune before I bought the Touch or Zune HD. Never owned an Ipod.
     1. gordon47isafanboy at 5:51am 15th September 2010 same here. i still prefer the zunehd. the normal zune is soo much better than the nano. it has wifi. its everyones opinion. if u want a touch,go for it. i dont care. what i do hate is those fanboys saying tons of crap about apple products,and not actually helping the rookies with what is possibly their first PMP
314. Ian Bell at 9:21am 18th November 2009 Jeff are you for real? Do you really think we were were paid or influenced by Microsoft? Have you bothered to read any of the Zune reviews we have done on the site? We gave the original a 5/10 and the Zune HD like a 7 or 8 out of 10.
     1. dave at 8:48am 8th January 2011 shnitzlel
315. JeffMa at 9:11am 18th November 2009 I had both a Zune HD and an Apple Ipod. This review is completely misleading. I'm not sure if microsoft had something to do with this Review or not but I ended up selling my Zune HD away. The apple Ipod is much beter in my opinion. Notice the word usage of "claims" throughout the text. "Claims" doesn't necessarily mean "does" or "is". Ya, a Zune can play up to 8.5 hours of video, on an absolute low quality settings. My Ipod lasts longer than the Zune ever wished it did. Ipod is also much more versitile with other programs than the Zune. I can go on and on, but until you own both of them, you can't sit here and criticize either way. I'll just laugh at your false so-called "claims".
     1. real confused at 3:16pm 3rd July 2010 hey so since youve had both.. i have a question.... now i am looking to get the Zune HD but i have the Ipod touch.. one of my biggest issues is the battery life.. like my ipod cannot last a three hour car ride (its redicc) I also like to play games and listen to music at the same time.. does the zune have good games in ur opinion and can i listen to my music while playing it
        1. gordon47isafanboy at 5:44am 15th September 2010 no it dont have good games. it barely has games. if u want a portable gaming console,get something like a DS XL or A PSP-3000(the pspGO sucks, the clicky buttons are horrid ) with you on the three hour battery life thingy. mine goes for 50 min on taptap lowest setting
     2. gordon47isafanboy at 5:47am 15th September 2010 sorry bro,but ive got both. and i still do,the OLDE screen is SOOO much better. and the browser is better too. also,the slightly thicker zune feels better. it also doesnt randomly turn off during landscape mode(when playing games,most people have a tendency to accidentally hold down the power button)
        1. gordon47isafanboy at 5:47am 15th September 2010 i meant oled
     3. Devin at 6:51am 6th January 2011 Sorry man, its just...The reason that the iPod has less battery life ( and this is a fact, both of them get better battery life than they say they do) is because the Zune has an OLED display. OLED displays actually turn off the pixels when its a black color. And they do not require backlighting which means they get better colors and true blacks.
316. Uori at 11:49pm 17th November 2009 "i'm going to follow the crowd by not following the crowd"
317. stompy1769 at 6:48pm 17th November 2009 touch = crap with crappy speakers
     zune hd = pretty good pmp
     gordan 47 = fanboy who has no idea what hes talking about
318. stompy1769 at 6:48pm 17th November 2009 touch = shit with shitty speakers
     zune hd = pretty good pmp
     gordan 47 = retard fanboy who has no idea what hes talking about
319. John at 3:51pm 17th November 2009 apple is always the worst, never use apple !!
320. Paul at 11:12pm 16th November 2009 Yeah, the Zune doesn't have a built in speaker, but most devices with built in speakers have pretty crappy quality in any case. Besides, there's nothing more annoying than some guy on the train that plays his lame music out of low quality speakers. How stupid do you have to be to base the quality of a PMP solely on its speaker? I have an old boombox that can pump out some pretty good sound from its speakers, so that must make it better than the Touch. I don't normally get judgemental, but it's people like you that make me believe that Apple really does make products for people that don't have a brain.
321. Paul at 11:12pm 16th November 2009 Yeah, the Zune doesn't have a built in speaker, but most devices with built in speakers have pretty crappy quality in any case. Besides, there's nothing more annoying than some prick on the train that plays his shitty music out of low quality speakers. How stupid do you have to be to base the quality of a PMP solely on its speaker? Shit! I have an old boombox that can pump out some pretty good sound from its speakers, so that must make it better than the Touch. Dumbass. I don't normally get judgemental, but it's people like you that make me believe that Apple really does make products for morons that don't have a brain.
322. viktor at 7:28pm 16th November 2009 yeeeeahh! zune rulez baby
323. That Guy at 6:48pm 16th November 2009 so it has an external speaker. so does the Samsung YK series. and that mp3 player isnt really that great. plus the external speaker o nthe ipod touch barely goes to a volume level audible, unless its in a dead quiet room. Microsoft and Apple are two different companies, of course their softwares are different. that's how business works. Don't judge a product when you haven't even given it a chance yet.
324. metalhead25 at 6:44pm 16th November 2009 Look. I'm not saying that ipod is a terrible PMP, but I am tired of people saying that there is no comparison between the ipod touch and thezune HD just because of the apps. Sometimes ipod fans can be just as annoying as Twilight fans (and thats saying allot). If you look at it from a music and video standpoint, zune HD probably is better. Between the zune pass, HD radio, an OLED screen, and 720p tv output, zune really doesn't leave ipod with much to brag about. The touch is more like a hand-held computer than a PMP. As far as sound quality, I really don't see a difference. If you can please help me see (or hear) a difference. Because I sure as hell can't hear it.
     1. Cal at 5:13am 8th July 2010 I agree. I dont see any different in the quality. But I beg to differ with the about the whole app thing. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, just trying to learn some things... Anyway, the hd radio does put an edge or ipod touch. It has good quality too. But all the apps on the ipod... it has over 60000 apps, giving it an app for almost everything, while the zune has mearly 16 applications. As for video quality, I vote the zune. It has better resalutions and looks like its in HD. And as for proccesors, the ipod wins, letting it play 3D games, while the zune lags. They both have a 600 megahertz, but the ipod has extra "things" to add to it.
        1. nehimia at 12:24pm 11th September 2010 each has its advantages and disadvantages... why not get one of each? haha that way its a win win situation
           1. gordon47isafanboy at 5:40am 15th September 2010 i have one of each. :D
              1. dan at 12:36pm 6th December 2010 I have 2 of each in case one breaks .
        2. Devin at 6:48am 6th January 2011 nope cal, the Zune is clocked in at 800mhz, same as the new iPod Touch. Plus it has the NVIDIA Tegra chip in it, meaning it could beat even the newest touch at gaming if it wanted to.
325. gordon47 at 12:44pm 16th November 2009 Guys , the comparison here is between zune hd and ipod touch 3g NOT apple and microsoft . and lets talk specifications .. Zune HD doesn't have a built-in speaker , and i think thats enough to say that the ipod touch is way way better than zune hd .. beside the ipod touch preforms much better .. take a look at this video and see the difference between zune and ipod touch in browsing WEB http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O6SCjjMmiw
     1. Eman at 10:16am 4th July 2010 who the hell would want a biult in speaker if it sounds like crap???? what kinda of comeback is that?
        1. Bang at 10:08am 5th July 2010 Haha! Thats actually an Iphone! Thats why its a little faster by like 3 seconds....
     2. gordon47isfanboy at 5:38am 15th September 2010 XD are you serious? seriously. are you? or are you just some little 10 year old kid whos trying to be cool? listen kid,the speaker is crap. its placed awkwardly as well. the touch has a tendency to turn off when ur playing a game,because the power button is inadvertently pressed while in landscape form. the ergonomics are crap ALREADY. next we come to the browser. Its half-arsed,and quite honestly as bad as a reliant robin without tyres. the battery goes to about 10 percent exactly 20 minutes of tap tap revenge 3 on the dimmest screen setting and with earphones down to the lowest setting. my nokia n97 mini can play an accelerometer racing game for about 3 hours straight,and it would only drain about 15 percent(or one battery bar out of seven). quite frankly,the ipod touch 4g is a turd with a big touchscreen and a shiny back.
        1. Voopers at 3:33pm 12th January 2011 i agree with this
     3. n/a at 11:58am 26th September 2010 the zune doesn't have a speaker be cause they dont want random douche bags blasting crap music in public places. and 1 thing will never determine if a PMP is better then another
     4. Devin at 7:46am 6th January 2011 LMAO now with 4,5 update it creams the iPod Touch in web browsing. And btw a built in speaker isn't that much of an advantage. Especially if the sound quality on the iPod is shit, which it is.
326. henry. at 10:47pm 15th November 2009 you are the man. good name too.
327. Ian Bell at 10:44pm 15th November 2009 For the record, I have both a 120GB Zune and an 30GB iPod I use in my car. I always got a kick out of how the Zune software and WMP do not work together. Windows Media Player will categorize my albums one way and the Zune software the other. Pretty dumb if you ask me.
     1. Andy at 8:52am 11th October 2010 Zune is designed to work best with its own software. Media player isn't part of the zune package.Andy
     2. @xFALLENxWICKEDx at 9:05pm 18th December 2010 As Andy said, it has its own software. You sound pretty dumb to me : )
328. AppleFails at 10:11pm 15th November 2009 I agree 100%. Unfortunately, Apple's products are retard-friendly, hence, since most of the population is retarded, you get the majority being Apple fans. As an example of what I'm talking about, look at how long it took for them to add copy/paste to the iPhone. It's pathetic when you realize that almost every other smart phone had this ability at launch. Apple is nothing special; it's time for people to realize this company is garbage and stop buying their products.
     1. fiyaa7 at 3:04pm 13th July 2010 you used the word hence incorrectly (:
     2. gordon47isadickhead at 5:24am 15th September 2010 right on !
329. AppleFails at 10:08pm 15th November 2009 Funny how Apple couldn't even get there act together to give the 3rd gen a camera. Yeah, clearly Apple is always better. I'm so sick of Apple fanboys who can't see past their own nose, much less see how Apple really has nothing to offer. 75,000+ apps? Most of these are garbage, and this is coming from someone who looked for apps that they would buy if they got an iPod Touch. Needless to say, the ZuneHD is a far superior PMP.
     1. John Bereczki at 5:56pm 3rd February 2011 Get this, they aren't even the first ones to come up with the mp3 player! They are the copy cats: The world's first company to announce a portable MP3 player and the attendant system for uploading MP3 audio content to a personal computer and then downloading it onto a personal MP3 player was Audio Highway. Under the direction of founder and CEO, Nathan Schulhof, Audio Highway announced its Listen Up player on September 23, 1996,[3] won an Innovations Award for its Listen Up player and its Listen Up Personal Audio System at the Consumer Electronics Show in January 1997,[4] and began shipping the Listen Up player in the United States in September 1997.[5] The Listen Up player also won a People's Choice Award[6] at the 2nd annual Internet Showcase conference, held Jan. 30, 1998.
330. Ipod rebel at 10:47am 15th November 2009 Right on. But lets not forget that iTunes is now open to almost any player not just ipod. So ipod no longer has the software advantage it has been running on for so long. For those who are only ipod wise may I recommend anythingbutipod.com A great site that is biased to no player except ipod. More power to the underdogs!
331. Alec at 9:04am 15th November 2009 Zune uses "zune software," and it is very good. It has a Zunetag system that tracks your playcount, lets you add buddies, and find others with the same taste. It has band pages, etc. Why do you assume that Itunes is better, when you don't even know what Zune uses? Typical Ipod fan here. Zune software > iTunes.
332. Futa_Mill at 9:19pm 14th November 2009 Zune proprietary Touch not, why well if you have a mac you cant use a Zune not saying I want one but If I did well I couldn't then. Also Itunes far outshines windows media player or whatever the Zune crap uses.
     1. Andy at 8:49am 11th October 2010 itunes is bloated and awful, actually. Always slow, always wants to download 100mb "updates". Judging from your comment, you've never used Zune's media software. So essentially you're saying "itunes is better because I'm a fanboy" ... you're going to have to convince me better than that.
     2. @xFALLENxWICKEDx at 9:02pm 18th December 2010 Zune doesn't and cannot be used with windows media player; it has its own software. You should probably do your research before you start running your mouth : )
333. That Guy at 4:44pm 14th November 2009 (Zune HD is a good PMP but cannot be as good as iPod touch ) . - Gordon47
     
     ill admit, the ipod touch has SOME things above the zune. but simply stating that the zune HD can never be as good as the ipod is very ignorant. My vote is very much on the Microsoft Zune side.
334. listenup at 1:26pm 14th November 2009 ha ha dude the zune hd is way way way better then the ipod touch. ipod touch is kinda old now anyways the zune hd looks and preforms way better. i got my zune and all my friends with the ipod touch admit the zune is way way way better. dont hate!!!
     1. unstoppable at 8:26am 11th August 2010 don't you have to pay a subscription for zune hd which costs like 45 dollars a mounth!
        1. Zach at 11:59pm 12th August 2010 Correction: $15 a month for unlimited music, did you not read the article? I have an iPod touch, I wrote this reply on an iPod touch (which crashed halfway through the reply), I wish I had bought the zune now
           1. Voopers at 3:28pm 12th January 2011 i have the zune HD and my friends have ipod touches they like the zune more also
     2. nehimia at 12:17pm 11th September 2010 how about the ipod touch 4th gen? it doesnt preform better than that
335. gordon47 at 2:14am 13th November 2009 reply please..
336. gordon47 at 2:13am 13th November 2009 please reply..
337. gordon47 at 5:20pm 12th November 2009 Come on !! What is the big deal with zune hd ?? HD radio whatever... and apple is better when it comes to sound quality and music in general... And for App store... how can u say it has useless apps?? The truth to be told there are some stupid apps... but in general the app store has more than 75,000 apps and a lot of them are very useful... (Zune HD is a good PMP but cannot be as good as iPod touch ) .
     1. EMAN at 10:09am 4th July 2010 Zune is the king at what it is supposed to be and thats a music player not a gaming sensation. with the zune Pass u can download any song you want legally for 15 dollars a month and can even get 10 song free when you subscribe. I dont have to go to limewire to get a song. or have to buy it in itunes. Also have you ever bought a cd that you love their songs but is not promoted, yea u can listen to their cd and possibly buy it if u choose to use ur 10 free doqnloads to get the songs. and for the morons who want to fit in the hd radio can download a song that comes up on ur favorite radio station.
     2. Chris at 4:13pm 31st July 2010 Okay gordon47. Let's examine your post: You said "apple is better when it comes to sound quality and music in general..." Wait a second, what? First of all, where the heck did you get the idea that Apple is better with sound quality? Um, the music files that you download are the EXACT SAME. Apple provides no differing quality WHATSOEVER than Zune. I would say they're quite neutral since it's the song you're downloading, and you can't make the actual contents of a universally accepted (it can go on any device, like a computer, or your iPod, or Zune- anything with HDD) music file change. The sound quality starts to change when you buy good speakers, e.g. BOSE. What you've said so far greatly boasts your ignorance on the subject and that you hold previous knowledge of lies, like "apple has better sound quality" and refuse to open your mind to better ideas or technologies. You said "how can u say it has useless apps?? The truth to be told there are some stupid apps..." First of all, you answered your very own question in the proximity of the next sentence. Nice. Second of all, the word 'some' really doesn't really sum (no pun intended) up how many stupid apps there are. Don't try and argue with me, man; I've had 2 years experience with the iPod Touch and vast areas of the App Store. About three-eighths, maybe even a half of the App Store, is just a bunch of useless crap. Fart apps, pornography apps (which why on EARTH does Apple let freaking porn apps on their store when, OMG, they don't let Google distribute a very helpful 'Google Voice' app [available on Android and similar phone OS's] on the App Store?! Oh, well, the answer is simple- porn apps won't affect the profit of AT&T, and essentially Apple, so why not throw in a ton of useless apps when most of the freaking useful apps aren't even approved by Apple??!?!?! Idiots. That's one great example of how much Apple sucks, but I won't get too much into that as it's pretty much obvious..), really sucky games and scams that cost money (and idiots still buy them -_-""), you name it. Most of the App Store SUCKS. FACE IT. No use in trying to argue that you're not human when it's pretty apparent you are (example). But, note that I did say MOST. We'll get to that in a second. You said "the app store has more than 75,000 apps and a lot of them are very useful" As I have already disagreed with your 'a lot' statement, I'm going to hop over the line onto your side. The App Store has a ton of apps. Zune has 9 (I believe). No contest. Apple wins. But I'm just restating what the guys said in the article. So did you. Useless. But this brings upon us another minute of conversation. I agree that the app store has some pretty helpful apps. I'm not gonna lie. There were some great ones. Thing is, out of everything I saw, only about 500 apps were useful. And most of them were paid. Majority of the free apps suck, hands-down. I think that Apple should care more about it's customers (as we'll read in my post later on) and not about their freaking sales (earlier example of Google Voice app) by letting a lot more of the professional apps come in so theres more of a variety of good apps. They're so hard to find these days. Anyway, let's continue... You aren't allowed to jailbreak your iPod. You can, but it is technically illegal. Not like you're going to jail for felony; you won't get filed for misdemeanor. Not anything. But Apple has their own law enforcement. If you jailbreak your iPod (obviously to get more out of it, or to make it better), Apple gets pissed off when they find out. They'll forcibly install new firmware that won't allow for a jailbreak, at least until someone else comes along to figure out how they made it so. This is a display that Apple is communist. Please don't compare this to Microsoft where if you buy non-genuine software (which is the real deal law), they could do stuff to you. Microsoft already let you install 3rd party apps. Apple didn't. It looks to me that Apple is much more communist than Microsoft. I would give you many more examples of how Apple sucks and how Microsoft doesn't (but don't get me wrong- they both have they're ups and downs- Apple just sucks more, if you will :) ) if I had the time, but I don't. Nice to talk. -Chris
     3. Jeebus at 10:11pm 14th August 2010 Not everyone likes to play little gay games all the time on their ipod's, and some, like me, would rather prefer better sound quality, battery life, and other things the zune offers in a greater amount over apple.
     4. applehead at 11:27am 12th December 2010 mmm sorry buy zune has way better sound quality
     5. Guest at 5:27pm 21st December 2010 agreed on the aps, but Zune is way more -cheaper -better battery life. -(looks better, small) -way more better graphics you probaly like it better because its the "best" which u only belive beacause it is popular.
     6. gUEST at 5:29pm 21st December 2010 ZUNE IS BETTER CHEAPER GRAPHICS MUSIC MOST OF ALL (EASIER TO PLAY WITH PINS) I PHONE SUUUCKS MY @$!#^&
     7. HaroldMt at 10:33pm 22nd December 2010 It's just like the article said; if you want the flexibility of all the thousands of apps and abundant itunes content, then the itouch will suit you perfectly. Those of us looking for the highest quality in portable entertainment (and yes the sound and video are better quality, regardless of your inexperienced accusations) we are more than content using the zune hd and giving up all the apps. If I want to play a game, I have an xbox 360 for that, and for anything else, I have a computer, you know, the one the music comes off of.
     8. Devin at 6:43am 6th January 2011 Sound quality is much better on the ZUne HD. This is a fact. Also, its the best media player ever. Much better than the touch. You have no basis on the fact that you think it has better sound quality and music playback. Even the most hardcore fanboys admit the Zune beats the iPod in that area. Music +video and the reason why its such a big deal that it has HD radio is because it is pretty much the first portable device to support it. And-when you get it you want it. The Zune HD is the ultimate entertainment device.
     9. John Bereczki at 5:54pm 3rd February 2011 Did you even read the article why the Zune HD is better as a media player... have you even tried it or listened to it. The sound is way better and so is the OLED screen! So what if you have apps... what a waste of time and money! If you want the app garbage, stick to your apple but if you want a rich media player - Zune HD is way better! I've tried both and many others... to compare!
     10. Devin Menge at 5:33pm 12th February 2011 zune hd does actually have better sound, and the big deal is a OLED screen which is more efficient and more vibrant the UI is also simply stunning, i have zune hd and just browsing the menus is fun. an the zune hd doesnt hav a ton of apps, but its got a few dozen and theyre really good and free. if u rly want apps itouch is better but as an actual player zune hd wins.
338. megatallica123 at 5:00pm 12th November 2009 i have to go wit metalhead hes right lets not follow the crowd
     1. unstoppable at 8:23am 11th August 2010 Yea but megatallica123 some people want more than just a music player they might also want to play games if they get board with listening to the same music over and over again i'm not saying that apple ipod is better but everyone has a different opinion on what music player they want
     2. size12uksize11us at 12:04pm 6th December 2010 Yeah we should all follow metal head and not follow the crowd.
     3. John Bereczki at 5:52pm 3rd February 2011 I totally agree! Zune HD is a great product!
339. metalhead25 at 2:40pm 12th November 2009 Why? Just because everyone has an ipod and you want to conform to popular culture? I'm sick and tired of people talking about how ipod is better than zune. Why? because it has all those apps. Come on. Half of those apps have no use what so ever. An app where you can pretend to shoot a gun, or where you can pretend to drink alcohol. What kind of moron would pay for something like that. I just wish everyone would stop putting these stupid comments saying things like "apple is always better than zune," and not even giving a good reason to support their ideas.
     1. Kiddo at 5:30am 20th July 2010 Your totally right. Why do people post those "apple is better than zune" comments if they aren't gonna give a reason why it true? Just because Apple has a huge collection of apps doesn't mean that its better than Zune.
     2. superman at 12:00pm 6th September 2010 i would agree if i didnt have a ipod touch
     3. nighttiger at 3:35pm 21st September 2010 hey all those apps do have a purpose they have a lot more game choices and the games look modern not all that pixelized crap
        1. Devin at 6:17am 6th January 2011 well, actually the Zune HD has 3d games with pretty damn good graphics. Just saying, I know the iPod has more. But all of the Zune's are free, even the good ones.
     4. Brian O'Marr at 8:03pm 22nd September 2010 that happens, especially with mac vs pc
     5. david wilson at 10:31am 16th October 2010 yeah, well apples apps do make it significantly better as a micro computer, as they allow email, scriptures, e-books and a thousand other uses, not just music and video and internet. if these are all you use, then the zune trumps, but if you want more, then the ipod touch is sure to win out. i only wish Microsoft would open to outside developers, because i really like the zune, but i want a scripture app for my church, because sometimes i like to look up scriptures, and right now i have to use my phones web browser which takes a while, as my scriptures are too bulky to carry everywhere. as soon as Microsoft opens to outsiders, the zune is mine!
     6. Menion at 9:33am 24th November 2010 In addition, Zune HD apps from Zune MarketPlace are FREE. And the selection is growing fast.
     7. GUEST at 5:30pm 21st December 2010 YOURE MAH MAN (apps really do count though.) TO THE ZUNE POWER.
     8. ball at 1:21pm 5th January 2011 of course "apple" is better than "zune" because apple is a company, where as zune is just an mp3 player, moron
        1. Voopers at 3:23pm 12th January 2011 ball your not very bright are you? its pretty clear that Microsoft is zune company
     9. Andy Lightning at 12:40am 10th April 2011 Lol iPod is totally better.
340. Hugo at 6:23pm 6th November 2009 Actually the Zune HD's kit you're talking about is $39.99 so yeah... way cheaper.
341. guy at 2:05pm 2nd November 2009 How about a speaker or which on is cheaper to put music on?
     1. Ian Bell at 4:25pm 2nd November 2009 Here you go, hope this helps. http://www.google.com/products?rlz=1C1GGLS_enUS340US340&sourceid=chrome&q=zune++speaker&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=Q3jvSuu0HJH8tQOM9aX6BQ&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CDAQrQQwAw
     2. ystey at 12:17pm 18th October 2010 actua lly i think the Zune hd has a speaker built in
     3. Devin Menge at 5:41pm 12th February 2011 zune hd has no built-in speaker, and on zune marketplace songs range from 59-99 MS points, which is maybe like $0.90-$1.10. zune, however, does have zune pass. its $15 a month to get unlimited streaming and downloads, and each month you can pick 10 songs to keep even when you unsubscribe.