New Apple TV vs. old Apple TV: what’s changed?

Newer isn’t always better. We compare the new Apple TV vs. the old Apple TV to see what’s changed, and whether Apple sacrificed too much in its cost cutting.

Steve Job’s “hobby” device has received an update and redesign, but is it for the better? Apple unveiled its new, slimmer Apple TV during a press conference at the beginning of September, and announced that it will launch at $99. What did Apple sacrifice to hit that price point? That’s what we’re going to find out. Below we breakdown each important aspect of the new Apple TV and put it head to head with the last-generation model to help you decide if the new Apple TV is really for you.

Output Resolution

Current Generation: The new Apple TV supports 720p resolution, which may have been fine and dandy two years ago, but Apple is setting up this device to age quickly by not offering 1080p capability, especially when almost all its competitors offer full HD.

Last Generation: The device will play content up to 720p, and supports output resolutions up to 1080p with upscaling. Playing back 1080p video is possible by hacking the device with XBMC and a Broadcom Crystal HD graphics card, but it can’t play 1080p out of the box.

Storage

Current Gen: Local storage is a thing of the past on the Apple TV, as Apple now expects you to stream everything to the device. While having no local storage definitely isn’t a positive, streaming is the way of the future. But are consumers currently ready for it now?

Last Gen: The old models started off with 40GB, but were later expanded to 160GB. That amount may not keep you afloat forever, but it offers the option of storing a good chunk of content locally, giving you the option of using the device disconnected from a network and the Web. Hackers can also expand it even more by swapping in larger drives.

USB

Current Gen: Apple has ditched the standard USB 2.0 slot for a microUSB port. Like the previous-generation Apple TV, the port is only designated for service and support by authorized service professionals, so the change really isn’t relevant to the common user. However, some speculate that Apple chose the less supported microUSB to limit hacks to the device, which could be an issue for tweakers.

Last Gen: Out of the box, the USB 2.0 port was worthless to users, as it was limited to maintenance and service needs only. A hack eventually allowed users to expand their storage via an external drive through the USB port. Hackers also used the standard USB connection with USB patchsticks to enable custom modifications, such as installing XBMC or Boxee media center software, which come with broader support of codecs, allowing users to play a much larger variety of video files.

Remote

Current Gen: Larger aluminum remote with better build quality and more comfortable fit in the hand.

Last Gen: Plastic and tiny, not very comfortable to hold or use, and easy to lose.

Size

Current Gen: 80 percent smaller than the previous generation.

Last Gen: There’s no denying that it’s much bigger than the tiny new model, but is size that big of a concern for something you’re going to stick in your home theater cabinet next to a giant receiver and gaming console?

Web Services

Current Gen: The new Apple TV adds Netflix support, which may be its biggest advantage over the previous generation. If you want to watch tons of content on the Apple TV without having to take out a second mortgage, Netflix is the most viable option, with thousands of titles available for streaming and subscriptions as low as $8.99 a month.

Last Gen: The original Apple TV supports Flickr and YouTube, both of which carried over to the new version as well.

Inputs and Outputs

Current Gen: HDMI, optical audio, microUSB, and Ethernet

Last Gen: HDMI, component video, optical audio, analog audio, USB 2.0 and Ethernet

Price

Current Gen: $99

Last Gen: $175 to $200 (Amazon)

Conclusion

At $99, it’s hard to complain too much about the new Apple TV. However, we would have liked to see a little more advancement in the device, even if it tacked on a few extra dollars. Leaving out 1080p seems like a glaring mistake. If you look at the hardware side by side, the new model is actually a step back, unless you factor in its smaller size. It has no local storage, fewer outputs, and no 1080i support. At this point, it all depends on how you will use the device. If you are an avid Netflix user, and don’t mind streaming all your local content from your computer, the new Apple TV is the easy choice. However, if you will use the extra storage and outputs, don’t might the larger size, and someday might like to install XBMC or Boxee, the previous generation might be worth considering for an extra $75.

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  1. CreativeSlave at 9:50pm 8th March 2011 I would like to point out a major difference not even mentioned here it seems, although maybe I missed something. I have the old Apple TV, and now I have the new one. I love NetFlix, now that I have the new Apple TV, but I can't watch my favorite shows, neither on Apple TV nor NetFlix. The old Apple TV I had favorites also, now that I have not checked yet, but to watch all of my old subscriptions I have to plug my old ATV in or get another HDMI cable and use both - if possible. I figure the reason may be because those shows can't stream? Not sure, I have no idea. But TV is the subject with Apple TV, and the new ATV does not have the same shows available.
  2. Rich at 9:17am 5th January 2011 Can one get 5.1 sound from Netflix using the new Apple TV ?
  3. thescragster at 11:31am 6th November 2010 There is a full tutorial on how to jailbreak the Apple TV 2G using the Pwnage Tool here: http://iphoneblogr.com/2010/11/how-to-jailbreak-a... Also tutorials on how to install Plex, and NitoTV here: http://iphoneblogr.com/2010/11/how-to-install-ple... http://iphoneblogr.com/2010/10/how-to-install-nit...
  4. John Olson at 8:02pm 12th October 2010 We have 6 of the 160gb apple tvs in our home. It is great for the kids. We have over 1500 dvds that I converted and put onto our mac pro. This set up allows anyone in the house to watch any of the content on itunes on any tv in the house. I am disappointed that the new ones do not have any memory. It would be impossible to stream to more than a couple of tv's at anytime, so that is a deal breaker for me to upgrade.
    1. Brian at 5:33pm 17th October 2010 How do you convert your DVDs onto your Mac Pro? Software or native in iTunes?
      1. Kalipo at 10:42am 19th October 2010 You can try handbrake and save to itunes as movies. This program may not wok for all dvd's due to copyright protections. The one major shortcoming of Handbrake is that it doesn't have any copy protection removal tools built in, which means you may occasionally need to use a 3rd-party stripping tool to prepare your DVD for conversion. It does not save all the features and menus but does save the major content (the movie) but may not save the extras etc. I have not used Mactheripper but it also gets high praise. You may find it useful to use a combination of both programs for various dvd's. Good Luck and enjoy! Both offer free trial versions with some limited use of features. http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/12987/handbr... http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/14414/macthe...
  5. Kalipo at 11:59pm 3rd October 2010 I have the original apple tv and am pretty pleased to be able to hack it using simple instruction online and run boxee. There is an incredible amount of free content. That will all change with the new version it seems. As far as remotes go I bought the new version because it looked much slicker, however it turns out I prefer the original remote. When you are entering logins and pass codes using boxee's keyboard, the original remote is far more responsive and tactile. You can actually feel the input and control the movement more easily. The new remote does look better but the function is slower and the recessed buttons do not allow the same speed, so I am back to the original. Glad my apple tv is not obsolete just yet. I was afraid briefly when I had to restore my apple tv and could not find the latest instruction for loading boxee. Loading boxee is certainly not for everyone as it does require some research so perhaps the new machine will be easier for the typical user. $.99 cents per tv episode and $4.99 per movie is a little steep however some free content would be a plus. We'll see. There is a lot of competition in this space and apple certainly didn't hit this one out of the park. (bluray, new tv's with apps, sony/google tv, roku, boxee box (coming soon), Dell Zino, popbox)
  6. Mehrdad at 5:38am 3rd October 2010 not supporting component video is a show stopper for me. I have two TVs (Sony and sharp) that are ~4 years old and none of them support hdmi and I am noting going to change my TVs anytime soon. If anyone has a solution please let me know.
    1. solercomputers at 2:32am 28th October 2010 ebay - HDMI To Component Video +Audio AV Cable works very good
  7. gordon at 3:19pm 2nd October 2010 future software updates will allow use of apps on new apple tv, you wont be able to on the old apple tv. Its far too early to truly compare them.
  8. audidude at 2:38am 20th September 2010 We don't have access to Netflix here, and having local storage is a huge bonus. I bought a new Original Apple TV for the same price as the old one (last in shop before new stock arrives soon), hacked it to run Boxee and XBMC, and used Transmit to sftp files onto the hard drive and play movies in a wide range of formats without having to Handbrake everything! A flexible and incredibly useful multi-format device no longer tied to the limited world of iTunes. Now try and do that with the new one!
  9. Ryan at 10:17am 16th September 2010 No real mention of software or integration with other devices (e.g. other home computers, iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad) makes this comparison a little hollow. What Apple is doing with streaming focuses not simply on a cloud out on the web somewhere but also your constellation of wireless devices in the home. I don't know how well that local streaming works, but it kind of makes the complaint about lack of storage an irrelevant point, so long as you have a nearby computer with storage and the setup to stream to the Apple TV. In our home, we use Netflix, have several Apple devices and an HDMI capable TV. This device seems like a great complement, and the price point won't make us regret it when we need to move on to something else down the road.
  10. RedEyeBR at 1:24pm 15th September 2010 Apple is not offering 1080P because few people have the bandwidth to download at that capacity. This is a product designed to invade the home, hence the low price and Netflix capacity. Apple will update the software with a feature that allows purchases and store that material for users in the cloud. With widespread use, the Apple TV will eventually become a TV, folded into a standard set with an open software system, allowing for apps.
  11. Greg at 3:07pm 14th September 2010 You are correct in that the previous generation Apple TV does support output to 1080p televisions but it doesn’t actually playback 1080p content.
  12. Jootec from Mars at 2:32pm 14th September 2010 The article incorrectly states that the AppleTV supports output resolutions up to 1080i. It actually supports output resolutions up to 1080p.
  13. @tubaman_eric at 12:59pm 14th September 2010 I have one of the older 40 GB AppleTV's. I primarily use it to stream from iTunes on my computer, so the loss of local storage doesn't seem like a big deal. The new remote definately looks better. My cat decided the old one was a toy and it disappeared. I know it's somewhere in the house. Fortunately I had already set it up to use a universal remote.
  14. Brian at 12:35pm 14th September 2010 You should proof your post - several grammatical errors and misspellings
    1. ioman at 12:48pm 14th September 2010 Such as?
      1. samba at 9:21am 3rd December 2010 last sentence : might for mind.
    2. Chris at 1:36am 20th September 2010 You left the full stop of the end of your sentence!
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