New developments in the ongoing Motorola and Microsoft slap fight: Judge David P. Shaw of the International Trade Commission recommended on Wednesday that the Xbox 360 be banned from sale in the United States because technology used in the box infringes on patents held by Motorola.
Shaw ruled in favor of Motorola following an ITC hearing in April, finding that Microsoft had infringed on five patents related to video encoding held by Motorola. Microsoft claims the technology owned by Motorola is considered standardized and the Google-owned mobile phone maker’s FRAND commitments dictate that Microsoft should be able to license the tech at reasonable rates. Motorola in turn claims that Microsoft is full of baloney and it’s owed a royalty rate of 2.25 percent, an annual fee of around $4 billion for Microsoft.
According to PC Magazine, the judge believes Microsoft should cough up the cash and, until it does, the Xbox 360 should be banned from entering the U.S. or being sold in stores. Microsoft in turn claims that banning the Xbox 360 from shelves wouldn’t be in the public’s best interests. Shaw says that the PlayStation 3 and Wii will pick up the slack.
“[Microsoft’s] argument is not persuasive,” says Shaw, “It has not been alleged or shown that Sony or Nintendo would fail to meet the demand for consumer video gaming consoles in the event that an exclusion order [was] issued.”
A six-member commission will determine by August whether or not an exclusion order will be necessary. Until then, the Xbox will remain available.
If Motorola banned Xbox I would pledge to never buy a Motorola product again and I’m sure that many of the 67 million Xbox owners would feel the same way
tell motorola to to cry me a river
DON’T PIRATE OUR GAMES!!!
but were going to steal from Motorola…
Exactly that says it all!!!!!
How many companys has Microsoft done this too?
Just because it’s everyone’s favorite system doesn’t make it ok?
america was formed on lies and stealing so yes i support them
Really now? Elaborate.
stealing land and lying to the Native Americans -_-
I don’t really consider that stealing… survival of the fittest is more like it.
I know this is old but the x-box fan boy really need to look around. Ive read people say xbox gamers are smarter yet there consoles keep breaking. That they have more game yet there only playing halo 3 (best salling on 360)and a few even claming that 360 has out sold the ps3.
Well im here to say your wrong, no don’t get mad I speek the true with fact and here they are.
As of summer last year PS3′s sold was at 57 mill and as of fall last year x-box was only at 57.8 mill and thats will a year lead to xbox so the the speed at which the PS3 was sold was about 25% faster.
Now for the total number of games sold. The 360 at the same time as I posted was at 284 mill, now that nice however the PS3 sold 375 mill games and that is due to having more exclusive content and figure dose not inculed the amout of digital content sold in PS Home.
Now for the insteresting one the online play. Every xbox owner I talked to gose on saying that XBL is better PSN but with never any good reasons or any at all in most cases so I just had to bring this in. Again at the same times as before XBL had 30 mill thats a third of the units sold and PSN 69 mill on the 57 mill sold. That means 2 out 1000 would have more than one account. Why you ask is because of the server hope idea the PS3 player figured out (theres the smarter ones) so they can get into other reagions stores.
Now before people call me a fanboy I only choose sony over xbox is for many reasons but all because of specs, so games I like and the Blu-ray reader are my top two reasons.
You say xbox gamers are stupid when you can’t spell worth a damn? Way to fail bro!
Motorola is a shield for the truth idiots behind this mess “Google”. Not to proud to say that since Google is a good friend of mine but Motorola is just a pawn for Google to rid Microsoft of its financial success.
Good
Typical US judges ruling without use of wisdom. Our legal system is a joke. Banning the Xbox- the best console- won’t hurt the US economy? Of course it would. It would be a massive blow to an economy recovering from conservative damages, and possibly enough to dip us back into the Bush Great Recession. (For those doubting this, remember gaming makes more money than film & music combined.)
that is true but not to mention the protests against motorolla
Yeah, we all know this will hold up. Telling Microsoft they can’t sell anymore 360s is like telling Apple they can’t sell anymore iPhones. Not gonna happen.
If Motorola and Google keep this crap up about patents and suing Microsoft then im going to imply a ban on using anything Google related and give my cash to Microsoft ten times over. This damn patent war in the US with these companies is hilarious and becoming retarded!
Google has given the world what exactly? Leaky security, no updates to my Android device in 2 years, bombards me everywhere with shitty ads, oh wait, they got a good search engine? Screw you Google, Microsoft were in this busines when half your employees were still sucking moms breasts!
Microsoft also said they have no intention entering the gaming universe until it seen the sales of PS2. We all know how dedicated they are to their money (57% failure rate in first 12 months on top of over-priced cost of Live) that they really don’t care so much for gaming. Ask Bungie (Halo developers) about how Microsoft is all about money then wonder why they signed with Activison to make Destiny on PS4.
So bitch more about Google and Motorola. You DON’T have to buy their products, but you willing buy a Xbox knowing they don’t care what gamers want.
that is a great point my friend
Xbox 360 – Starting Prices = Premium $399.99 Core $299.99 Playstation 3 – Starting Price = 60GB $599 20GB $499 Xbox Live (Online Gaming) – $9.99 Monthly (Safe) PSN (Online Gaming) – Free (Been Hacked) Xbox 360 – 77.2 million Units Sold Playstation 3 – about 77 million Units Sold (Estimated) Everything you’ve said so far has been redundant if $9.99 a month means I don’t have to worry about a security breach like Sony so be it. PSN getting Hacked cost me 500 bucks never have I had that problem with Xbox 360 nor have I ever heard of it happening to anyone else. Getting an Xbox 360 is Clearly cheaper to get than a PS3 now who just said microsoft cares more about money. Not to mention a lot of game franchises that use to be strictly PS are now on xbox 360. And before you go on about hard drive size most of PS3′s games require you to install game data which can sometimes take over 4 to 5GBs therefore leaving storage space availability even less then xbox 360 and Nintendo Wii. Not only that my web browser my xbox 360 freezes 95% less then my PS3′s Xbox is clearly the better system. So maybe YOU should grow up and get a real system cause all I here is false speculation no way in hell did u dig up all the facts before you put thought to keyboard. FYI Playstation Move controllers infringe on Nintendo Wii’s Controllers Nintendo just didn’t throw a big stink over it like Motorola while xbox 360 kinect doesn’t require one at all. So bitch more about Microsoft. You DON’T have to buy its products, but your willing to buy a PS Knowing it cost more and doesn’t appeal Online Gamers Nearly as much xbox 360. Another FYI know all this because I have an Xbox 360, Nintendo Wii, and a PS3. I don’t touch the Wii I have 6 friends on PSN (Only 2 have been on within a year) and 50 on Xbox Live (40 are on all the time) Darc Signing off.
Im sorry to get a real system would be just build a pc like me I have a ps3 and I had a thousand xbox 360 that over heated dvd rom stoped working but no there good and it just got better when they made a slim sweet smaller hotter burns up faster but yeah to be completely honest all consoles suck you should just build your own and use emulators like I do much easyer but as we all no pc games look way sweeter then any console does it go’s pc ps3 xbox 360 wii and when the ps4 comes out it will still be behind pc as always because you can upgrade for way cheaper well not to mention that you can upgrade at all so yeah the argument sucks because consoles suck!
Now that’s funny shit right there.
x-box wont be banned it makes money I have a ps3 so no use for x-box I had 3 an they died so went to ps3 an had no problem. us will not ban anything that makes money.
The problem is everyone wants something from everybody. Why do people sue, to get something. In most case’s its money. That’s all I’m going to say.
if they banned Xbox 360 then the gaming companies would lose profit.Motorola sucks anyway. Let Motorola be upset. Motorola are just crybabies. They really want to make children board. Children plays the Xbox 360 to take out their anger or just to play with friends. Taking away the Xbox 360 is a mistake.
Sounds like the judge needs to just blow one… lol. Keep in mind microsoft users arent as many stoners who just sit and play their games. From all the ppl ive noticed who are microsoft over sony are also about five steps ahead on the intelligence scale. And thruth be told with all the internet attacks that have taken place would it be wise to take away a technology that a vast perportion of hackers do use and enjoy. In fact i think it would just give some geek with the time a reason to bring down opposing manufactories.
What? Your comment is so fan-based it’s almost impossible to read. Microsoft users are “five steps ahead on the intelligence scale” over Sony customers? Am I reading that right? The context you stuck that is in as ignorant as the way you spell truth. Grow up, move out of your parents, and buy a real gaming console. One that invents patents, not steals them. Idiot.
You gotta be effing kidding me.
xbox has been making more money in everyday than ps3 and the wii even though you have to pay for live the dlcs are a lot cheaper and the games are more action packed theres games out there that ps3 and wii don’t had which are exclusive to xbox only and its true if the xbox is banned we will all with xboxs be owning contraband and the exclusion would be pointless
the PS3 has games that r only exclusive to the PS3 so what? The PS3 and XBOX are the same only u have to pay to play against other people. Most of the popular games are on the PS3 and XBOX
screw motorola if they banned xbox never will i ever buy one of there products ever again i have spoken that is what i stand by. Motorola i bet just is sitting in an office wishing that they had 69% of the world buying their products so they found microsoft as a target to attack and agree with this judge who this so called judge had no bussnies snooping around microsft technololgy and microsoft had to have rights to use their parts if they didnt why have they been using them for almost 2 decades.
But I almost forgot I hope that the console doesn’t get banned because if you all remember Microsoft built the computer world Motorola wouldn’t be anything if it wasn’t for billgates and his magic fingers and plus Microsoft will just pay the tab if they can get past his lawyer to get it throw court in the next 20 years haha bill is the shit rember that your using his technology right now just talking to this form and reading it unless you run Linux or osx but we would have dos because no one has came close to windows
this is so silly anyone ever herd the fraze mess with the bull you get the horns ,,,will its like this with a pice of software all pc’s turn into Xbox’s hell im using a wired x box controller and a pice or freeware called xpader that turns the controller into an extended keybord :) have fun with that
Motorola should be banned
Xbox360 is GAAAAAYY FOR EVERY 3 MONTH FOR PAY!!!!!!!
your gay
A least weee doontget HAAACKEEED
x box sucks anyways this is a good thing
I know this is old but the x-box fan boy really need to look around. Ive read people say xbox gamers are smarter yet there consoles keep breaking. That they have more game yet there only playing halo 3 (best salling on 360)and a few even claming that 360 has out sold the ps3.
Well im here to say your wrong, no don’t get mad I speek the true with fact and here they are.
As of summer last year PS3′s sold was at 57 mill and as of fall last year x-box was only at 57.8 mill and thats will a year lead to xbox so the the speed at which the PS3 was sold was about 25% faster.
Now for the total number of games sold. The 360 at the same time as I posted was at 284 mill, now that nice however the PS3 sold 375 mill games and that is due to having more exclusive content and figure dose not inculed the amout of digital content sold in PS Home.
Now for the insteresting one the online play. Every xbox owner I talked to gose on saying that XBL is better PSN but with never any good reasons or any at all in most cases so I just had to bring this in. Again at the same times as before XBL had 30 mill thats a third of the units sold and PSN 69 mill on the 57 mill sold. That means 2 out 1000 would have more than one account. Why you ask is because of the server hope idea the PS3 player figured out (theres the smarter ones) so they can get into other reagions stores.
Now before people call me a fanboy I only choose sony over xbox is for many reasons but all because of specs, so games I like and the Blu-ray reader are my top two reasons.
Oh and one last thing i am against the banning of the xbox from the US. They may have been the first company to steel an idea (mac to make win) but I still use windows over mac any day.
I see a few others made new comments on this it is a month away from being a year old for anyone who didn’t pay attention and why are they just now showing this in the side adds i really need to stop clicking on them always old or something other than what it shows.
they just want a slice of the pie that is called microsoft MAKE YOUR OWN DAMN PIE MOTOROLA
Honestly, this is all horse shit. I have played every gaming console out there so far and my favorite is the 360. my favorite game series’ are xbox exclusives and i love to buy more, new games. And xbox get more sales than ps3 and wii by far. they havent picked up the slack thus far and i believe they never will. And motorola is only asking to ban the sale of 360. so those already owning one would not be owning contraband.
Honestly, this is all horse shit. I have played every gaming consol out there so far and my favorite is the 360. my favorite game series’ are xbox exclusives and i love to buy more, new games. And xbox get more sales than ps3 and wii by far. they havent picked up the slack thus far and i believe they never will.
btw who cares, you can still buy it from out the U.S because it will still sell games. Also the fact is, who doesn’t have an xbox? i have a ps3 too but it collects dust unless i watch a blu-ray movie which is the only thing it’s good for. & maybe a few exclusive games
They should shut down Xbox live and ban all xboxes from the world and only sell ps3 becouse Xbox sucks ps3 rules
another loser
Don’t be an igmoe.
Just because you don’t like the 360 doesn’t mean it sucks.
I have a 360, PS3, and a Wiiu and I use them all.
Although admittedly I only have 5 games for the Wiiu right now because its library isn’t that great yet.
(Assassin’s Creed 3, Black Ops 2, Arkham City, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, and Lego City Undercover in case anyone’s wondering. That last one I mainly bought so the neighbor kid would have something to play so he’d stop annoying me to play Minecraft 360 edition with him, but it’s actually a lot of fun.)
Yu need to be shot -_-
dam, i better buy a xbox now then
this infringement buy law is null AND VOID the patent has to be used against a device with the same or similar purpose the xbox is not even close to a phone and it was made in 2005 it is way to late to copyright it now microsoft is also a bigger company than google it can boycott the search engine in all their computers that would take out google for good
No dude a patent is a patent. it is illegal to infringe a patent no matter how different the two devices r
If they ban xbox does that mean we the people with xboxes have illegal contraband
it might but now that would b unfair because u guys didnt know about it being illegal
No. because the article mentions that motorola wants to ban the sale of 360′s not owning them.
don’t ban the Xbox motorolla if you do that the public will boycott
Microsoft is a company that lies and steals. do you want to support that?
um if that’s the case why do you support the United States?
We all know that they will never ban xbox’s in the US. That’s just silly.
Though I do find it funny when these big companies (who complain about piracy) are found to be infringing on other people’s pattens. Hypocrites?
agreed
It’s not as silly as you think. Let’s just look at the dispute Sony had with a particular company about the Playstation 3 — at one point the company actually did bring down a ban on the Playstation 3 in the US at one point, but it was lifted soon after.
Exactly, it was lifted without the ban even being able to take effect. Essentially, the ban didn’t go into effect.
It’s silly.
your missing the boat on that it was still banned and can go into affect for the XBOX 360
If you ban XBox then only criminals will have XBox.
Google already did:)
Should have done this in 2006.
2005 you mean?
Good, I hope all the big companies get this kind of lawsuit against them and maybe they will all think twice before turning the technological landscape into a legal battlefield.
You gotta be effing kidding me.
Holy shnikes!!!
Its cool. Next up, Microsoft buys Motorola and burns it to the ground!!!
Google already bought Motorola.
I love my xbox.
So, what are the 5 copyright infringements?
Doesn’t matter… I don’t make cellular phone calls on my friend’s X-Box 360, so it is total BS, this is like a hammer company selling a crowbar company because they figured out the forked prong would be good for popping crates open as it is for pulling out nails. A patent is only good for the same usage, not for similar or different usage. The Judge needs to get disbarred for his criminal negligence in further corrupting the law.
Come on a royalty rate of 2.25 percent,That’s horrible motorola and google are greedy they are low rate services and first of all i read some of these comments and a lot of them suck stop hating on the fact that you have to pay for xboxlive 60$ one year grow up everything is better on the xbox and if your to ignorant to realize that then stop playing video games So what microsoft is a inventive company it’s kinda bullshit that motorola want’s money from them when they have to split it with google anyway and google bought them so whats the point lol rule in favor of microsoft plz shaw