In its earnings call with investors today, Netflix announced that it lost about 800,000 subscribers during the third fiscal quarter of this year. Over the same period, the company also managed to bring in record revenue, exceeding the expectations of Wall Street analysts.
Last month, Netflix announced that it expected to have a total subscriber base of 24 million at the end of this quarter. The actual number is 23.8 million (21.5 million streaming, 13.4 million DVD rental) subscribers. While this is only slightly lower than anticipated (if you can call 200,000 of anything ‘slight’), investors are not taking the news well. Netflix’s stock has tumbled more than 20 percent in after-hours trading to around $92 (at the time of this writing). That’s down from a high earlier this year of about $300.
Netflix posted profits of $62 million, a 63 percent jump from last year, on $822 million in revenue (at 49 percent leap). Wall Street analysts had expected revenue of about $811 million in the third quarter.
The drop in subscribers follows a tumultuous three months for Netflix and its CEO, Reed Hastings. In July, the company announced that it would boost the price of receiving both streaming services and DVD rentals by a minimum of 60 percent a month (from one $9.99 plan to two separate $7.99 plans), sparking user outcry that continues to reverberate throughout Netflix headquarters, for sure.
Then Hastings announced that Netflix was going to split in two, and create two separate businesses: Netflix would be streaming-only; and a new company, foolishly named Qwikster, would handle the mail-order DVD rental business. Hastings justified the move, saying that the two sides to the business already operated independently inside the company, it made good sense for them to split into separate entities in public as well.
Once again, customers became enraged and, less than a month later, Hastings reversed the Qwikster decision, saying that Netflix would remain one company.
In a letter to investors released today (pdf), Netflix had this to say about its back-to-back debacles:
…We think that $7.99 for unlimited streaming and $7.99 for unlimited DVD are both very aggressive low prices, relative to competition and to the value of the services, and they are the right place for Netflix to be in the long term. What we misjudged was how quickly to move there. We compounded the problem with our lack of explanation about the rising cost of the expansion of streaming content, and steady DVD costs, so that absent that explanation, many perceived us as greedy. Finally, we announced and then retracted a separate brand for DVD. While this branding incident further dented our reputation, and caused a temporary cancellation surge, compared to our price change, its impact was relatively minor. Our primary issue is many of our long‐term members felt shocked by the pricing changes, and more of them have expressed that by canceling Netflix than we expected.
The company expects its US subscribers to grow slightly during the fourth quarter, from 20 million streaming customers to 21.5 million; and from 10.3 million DVD customers to 11.3 million. Despite the growth, and expansion in the UK and Ireland early next year, Netflix says it expects to fall into the red during the fourth quarter.
As a long time customer I would have appreciated them admitting their error of increasing the price too quickly rather then have to hear it second hand from a stock holder meeting report since I don’t hold stock. Amazon Prime is looking mighty tempting.
That’s why there’s “MIXVID” free movies free games free music no hassle.
How can a person keep their job after losing almost a million people in 90 days? And at the same time, driving the stock down to less than 1/3rd it’s value in 6 months. That is hard to do. Must be Wall Street math.
Revenue went up.
It actually worked out for me.. I went from a blue ray plan to just streaming and saved money. People need to be more pissed at the studios who are essentially trying to put “all you can eat” models out of business. In what 3 years, starz said they needed 10x + increase in fees to stay on Netflix. Really? These dopes (studios) will probably get behind that god awful Ultraviolet DRM too..
@ jay yes they do have blu-ray for an extra $2 a month
No more broken disks or long waits for me! Go Itunes movie renting!!!
does netflix have blu-ray? because i have no interest in dvd’s,or choppy downloads.
Ummm, you can speculate about “where they went”, but ultimately 800,000 of Netflix smartest customers left because there was no additional VALUE included with the additional COST… They didn’t add a substantial amount of streaming programs, or even a substantial amount of DVD selections… They simply hiked the price because they thought they were still offering “competitive pricing”… Well, Netflix, the tribe has spoken, and now your shareholders want answers… But, if you still wanna speculate about where the customers went, check out the offerings from DirecTV, Dish and other Satelite providers. Slashing prices and offering free whole-home DVR’s, discounted movie tiers, and also Free NFL and other sports packages!
So those that left are the “smartest”? That is a dumb statement. How about saying, “those that stayed, still saw value in what Netflix has to offer”?
Because that is me. I still find lots of content on Netflix that I like. My children love the kids shows and movies, and I get to catch up on older TV shows from HBO etc that I missed. So for me there is still value. Lots of value.
Even with the deals from other content providers and Netflix’s price hikes, I have yet to find anything that compares to the value of Netflix. And I looked all over the place. Yes, torrents are an option, but not a practical one for me. I have four people, including me, living in my house and at any given time someone will need to use the internet. I cannot have a torrent program running in off hours, downloading content, because there aren’t any off hours. If I lived alone, I’d consider it, but even then I doubt it.
Ended mine two weeks ago
This would make for a good business school case study:
Netflix increases its subscription service fees approximately 50% and in doing so, loses three percent of their customers. With 23.8 million subscribers and revenue from subscriptions (and other wise) totaling $822 million, each customer has an adjust value of $34.53. That means, Netflix lost about twenty-eight million in revenue from their rate hike, far less than what they brought in from the rate hike. However, this loss of customers has shaken investor confidence, causing the Market cap of Nextflix to fall from down to 6.2 billion (not factoring in after hours trading) from 15 billion.
Was this is a wise business decisions? Explain.
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I had been a subscriber in the past but cancelled in order to save some money. I was just about to subscribe again when I read about the changes. I’ll rent from Redbox now or use On Demand.
This is an example of how a public company can get in its own way. It’s functioning, but the drive to keep stock price high makes for bad decision making. It can rip a perfectly good business apart.
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I’m curious where those 800,000 users went. Are they simply going back to cable? There just isn’t really any other companies out there with a competitive business model that have the same content availabilty, app availability, etc. I’ve been waiting for an underdog to come out of the wood works and take my business from netflix but so far all I hear are crickets. I hardly believe people are settling for nothing in protest.
My guess is that most of them are sticking with a Hulu/BitTorrent combination. Netflix was cheap enough to where people were willing to pay for the content to avoid the risk at getting busted for downloading movies/shows. But with the price now going up, I think a lot of people are willing to go back to Bittorrent to risk it again.