I just don't get why people are so passionate about a product that they would verbally attack someone who writes something against it.

Common man, I had to delete your post because you used your Amazon affiliate number in the links.

You had a good argument, stop trying to make money off of the others posting here too.

What?

I haven't had to update my player in months and haven't had playback issues. Is this exaggeration on the part of the writer or are there other people out there having to go through this by-movie basis update routine?

WOW, did this actually come out of your mouth? You are seriously claiming that Sony is the only company to do this?

Hey buddy…you bought into a new format way early. And you weren't smart about it by not buying the best blu-ray player (PS3) on the market at the time. Not only that, but you ended up buying like 8 more of them. Whaaa?

The biggest reason blu-ray will succeed is disc space. Eventually DVD will not be big enough…CD/DVD/Blu-Ray…

Enderle = Robin Hariss = @sshat

The best and most legitimate response came from Jason above, but was in part wrong…

He said: “1) early blue players, ie non-network players will become obsolete because they can't be updated to meet newer blueray specs”

>Yes, this is true that Ethernet and BD1.1 can't be added, but the player never could do 1.1 or Ethernet features. It can still play movies, which is what people who bought it for were promised. This has not changed and doesn't make something obsolete.

He said: “2) the blueray spec is not done. When it is, how many players/movies will be obsolete? Who knows.. we don't know what will happen when it is completed.”

>Windows Vista is STILL not done, yet my XP computer still works. How is that possible? The current world is full of ever changing, always improving specifications. The addition of new hardware features does not make any single player obsolete at this point, and crying wolf about it doesn't make it true.

He said: “3) Have you gone to your local Target to look for blu-ray movies? The one by my house has maybe 100, with more than half of them being pretty old movies.”

> Best Buy and Amazon are some of the biggest sellers of movies, not Target. In fact, Target is pretty well known for NOT being one of the bargain stores. Yet, you are right, BD titles need to be more readily available and need lower overall pricing.

He said: “4) Daaaaaamn, they are expensive. The average joe is not going to shell out $25 – 30 for a movie”
Yet, with almost 100 BD titles to my name, I've averaged LESS than $15 per title. If people care about quality AND money, they do have options. Don't confuse normal MSRP pricing of a hot product during a recession with what can be had if people want to look.

He said: “5) It's still early adopter. Other means of getting movies are starting to crop up. If prices don't start going down sharply the format is going to die.”

>BD is almost at a point of no return with adoption and consumers. It's sitting over 10% regularly for title sales compared to DVD with some titles doing better. When BD hits about 20% market saturation is basically will mark a major milestone for product acceptance and the DVD player will start to disappear from store shelves.

Already this is starting as there is no call for more expensive DVD players when the cheapest BD player with a decent disc will outperform the best DVD player on the market.

An informed consumer I believe will read both sides and ask questions if they have any. But, many people are complaing about BD and NOT buying in. Those who have bought in are mostly speaking the joys of the format. So, who to believe? Those who own it, buy titles, and enjoy them, or those who complain about something they don't actually own?

Considering the EXTREME bias Enderle has shown for several years with this format I don't think it is wrong to strong question any opinion he puts forth. But, considering the complete lack of factual information he has presented this go around, it is evident that he is just starting to realize that no matter what he says, it is incorrect.

Yes, I welcome the informed consumer who actually wants to read and hope they wonder why you (Enderle) completely have ignored the actual questioning of your statements.

From his prediction that HD DVD would win to him saying that the iPhone would “not benefit” Apple, he has just been flat out wrong.

His article also contains a factual inaccuracy regarding the Oppo players.

For those reasons and many more, I think we can say he sucks at tech. analysis/predictions. And also just so happened to be an “advisor” for Toshiba and Microsoft at the time of those predictions…what a coincidence that Enderle was predicting the failure/demise of the competitors of the people giving him $$$.

In Enderle's world, forget about the content of this article, the truth is he believes Blu-ray remains a bad value because those who sign his paycheck want him to say Blu-ray remains a bad value. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Rob enderle, seriously just give it up man. Move on. Your predictions have failed. Your theories have been proved wrong so many times and now you just look like a jackass by regurgitating same old talking points that has been debunked over and over again.

Get a life and move on. Blu ray is just an optical format. It's not lucifer's handiwork tool

I also see you failed to address the factually inaccurate Oppo comparison you made. Maybe you should go back and correct that, because you were WRONG. That is, if you were at all interested in providing an unbiased analysis. Which has never been the case.

And I will learn from your mistakes. I will do the opposite of whatever technology prediction you make. Since you are always wrong. This is a fact. Something that anyone can search for on the internet. So if anything your articles are indeed a good reference. Whatever you say, the opposite happens. You may look like a fool (yet again), but I will have made a technology purchase that will last. Unlike HD DVD.

Funny that you call someone else a shill, when you have to make it known of your allegiances to both Toshiba and Microsoft. Is it any wonder then that you are anti-Apple and anti-bluray. You are being paid by their competitors.

Though your world must have been turned around by Toshiba going blu.

Just face it – you suck at technology analysis and harbor animosity towards anyone that points out how bad your track record is. Your hyperbole in the above article is clear as a newly Windexed window. Your bitterness shines through said window.

Bluray is not going anywhere. It will grow along with HDTV penetration. It gives me great joy in knowing how much this must get under your skin.

Until your next failed article, I bid you farewell.

Seriously even to some of you Blu-Ray shills and fanboys; doesn't much of this look like BS. Much is just personal attack, only the folks on my side seem to actually talk to the points, and the rest looks like either a grade school level personal attack or something left over from the last mudslinging election.

It is your choice, but wouldn't you rather buy something from folks who assured your purchase, attacked problems and made the product better rather than a firm or group that attacked critics, covered up problems, and constantly made you feel stupid by making what you purchased prematurely obsolete? It's your choice, I've simply been clear on the one I would make. And yes, I've bought a lot of Blu-Ray stuff, I think I was stupid to do so, I'm suggesting you learn from my mistake.

I think the term you are looking for is “double dip” and it was created for the DVD format. Not a new concept to blu-ray. Nice try though.

1) early blue players, ie non-network players will become obsolete because they can't be updated to meet newer blueray specs
2) the blueray spec is not done. When it is, how many players/movies will be obsolete? Who knows.. we don't know what will happen when it is completed.
3) Have you gone to your local Target to look for blu-ray movies? The one by my house has maybe 100, with more than half of them being pretty old movies.
4) Daaaaaamn, they are expensive. The average joe is not going to shell out $25 – 30 for a movie
5) It's still early adopter. Other means of getting movies are starting to crop up. If prices don't start going down sharply the format is going to die.

If you have to wait “5-10 minutes for a download” or have trouble with playing a disc, try to buy another player. I have over 320 Blu Ray discs in my library (and I am not worried about any them going obsolete) and I have NEVER had a disc that wouldn't play because of encryption.

The fact that you are still taken serious by any website on the internet shows what the web has become. A haven for misfit, know it all's that have no business typing.

You sir are an idiot……..

Who's paying you to produce this FUD-encrusted tripe, Mr Enderle? Netflix certainly should be.

You know, myself and a bunch of friends in IT (both industry and research) have a saying – “If Enderle says so, believe the opposite.”

I've hated Sony's behemoth approach to new tech/standards, but they won (rightly or wrongly) here. And I can't believe Enderle hasn't cottoned on to why there's a lack of portable Bluray devices – what's the point? Bluray (& Hi-Def) were invented simply because as screens got larger, regular 480/576 looked like ****. Why would you want HD on a teeny screen?

How can this guy call himself an 'analyst'?

This is from Oppo's website:

* The DV-983H features “VRS by Anchor Bay” video processing technologies. The VRS technology suite includes AutoCUE-Câ?¢, Progressive Cadence Detectionâ?¢, Precision De-interlacingâ?¢ and Precision Video Scalingâ?¢. The VRS video processor also handles frame rate conversion, aspect ratio control and video zooming.
* The DV-981HD features video processing with “DCDi by Faroudja” technology and video chipset by Genesis/Faroudja.
* The DV-980H uses a customized Mediatek “System-on-Chip” for video de-interlacing and up-conversion.
* While all three players produce excellent picture quality and the difference is subtle, the “VRS by Anchor Bay” technologies cover more areas of video processing and enhancement, and can handle more tricky video contents. “DCDi by Faroudja” technology is also capable of handling some tricky video contents. The “System-on-Chip” solution featured in DV-980H delivers excellent picture for properly mastered video contents.
* On very large TV or projector screens, the difference could be noticed by experts or videophiles. When benchmarked with contents designed to test video performance, the DV-983H will usually score the highest, followed by DV-981HD and DV-980H.

No more HD-DVD lovers around to make you look good anymore is there?

A couple of movies have suggested without a firmware update some features will not play but I have yet to see anything not play.

I am projecting my Blu-Rays onto a 2.5 meter screen and they look stunning in 720p.

I believe I am like most people and do not delve into all the extras on the disk (or at least rarely) so will not come across problems like those you mention.

So far as looking up an actor mid movie? Who cares, I want to watch the movie not ogle over celebrities.

Andrew

Whereas in 2000 we had old, cheap VHS on the way out and new, expensive DVD on the way in, we now have old, cheap DVD on the way out and new expensive bluray on the way in. You guys act like this pricing pattern has never happened before.

Go ahead and compare the price of VHS:DVD in 2000 to DVD:bluray now and see how much they are the same.

Why did people pay more for DVD over VHS? Could it be they perceived greater quality/value, etc?

I fail to see how this is any different than someone buying bluray now instead of DVD.

The situations are analogous.

This is NOT a good article. Good articles point out the good AND the bad. This article only points out the negative. Obviously he has a hidden agenda.

@James

I will buy blu-ray movies for $10 more. You wanna know why? Because I have thousands of dollars invested in audio/video equipment and $10 more for a hi-def movie is worth it to me. DVD looks like crap on my setup. AGAIN, this article is so subjective. We are all arguing over OPINIONS!