Living on Windows 7 and an HP Mini 1000

Rob Enderle tests whether Windows 7 has slimmed down enough to handle a netbook?s frugal hardware.

Can you live on a netbook? Will Windows 7 run on one? These are two questions that many had been asking as we entered 2009. Well, I’ve been using Windows 7 on an HP Mini 1000, and I’m actually surprised to say that the answer to the first is a strong maybe, and to the second, a very strong yes. Let’s talk about my experiences with Windows 7 on the HP Mini 1000 netbook this week.


Living on a Netbook

The first generation of netbooks consisted of machines that were extremely underpowered. Many ran Linux, which consumers couldn’t figure out, resulting in return rates that often exceeded 30 percent. We are now on the second generation, and most (over 80 percent) are sold with Windows XP, and run Intel’s Atom processor, which provides adequate performance and strong battery life (with some companies claiming over seven hours of battery life).

Price points for these products have crept up a bit along with the performance, but are generally below $600 (most actually start, like this Mini 1000, below $400).This makes them incredibly affordable, and the class now provides similar performance and portability to the MacBook Air, at less than a third of the price. The problem then comes down to size. Ten inches is likely the smallest screen size you could live off of, and previously the smallest product I could use was a 12-incher for day to day use.

This brings me to the “maybe” part, and it may have a lot to do with gender. For me, the Mini’s keyboard, while having a better feel than the MacBook Air, is also smaller and feels just a little cramped for my hands. On the other hand, my wife, who is using the Vivian Tam version of this product, doesn’t have the same problem. This is consistent with prior tests, where women have gravitated to these smaller products much more aggressively than men, and often prefer them. For instance, a few years back at Intel, many of the top women executives gravitated to a similar sized notebook, but virtually none of the men did.

Finally, graphics performance is limited. This means that gaming, even MMO gaming, is probably not going to be a good experience on one of these products today. However Nvidia representatives tell me they have a number of wins with their Ion platform, which, when coupled with Intel’s Atom, improves the performance of this class of product so that it could be used for mid-level gaming. (Apple is expected to use Ion in its new Mini, as well). For MMOs like Warcraft, I’d probably still prefer to plug into a larger screen, but it does work, and I’ve seen folks play first-person shooters on screens smaller than the Mini’s.

So if you can take the smaller keyboard, and can live with casual games (Solitaire plays just fine), you could actually live on this class of product. Microsoft Office and browsing work great, but if you need more performance or size, it’s best wed to a desktop, and that’s how I use it. For me, having a full desktop system at home synced with something like SugarSync is a full solution.

Windows 7

I did something really stupid with this notebook. I tried to put Vista on it. One lesson here is: Don’t try to put Vista on something that doesn’t yet have Vista drivers. I didn’t bother to check for that before trying to upgrade XP to Vista, and the end result was touch pad that stopped working regularly, and an Ethernet port that wouldn’t work at all. So I stripped Vista off and did a clean Windows 7 installation. Everything worked. And not only did it work, I didn’t notice any performance drag, even though this netbook has only one gigabyte of memory.

Boot times are acceptable, it suspends and recovers well, the interface looks very clean, and, so far, I haven’t run into any driver or application compatibility issues. Granted, I’m not running games on it, but I am running them on a Windows 7 desktop, and, so far, I’m not having problems there, either. Some of the compatibility problems that I was still having with Vista SP1 seem to have been eliminated in this Windows 7 beta, too.

Now a word of caution: I did have to strip Windows 7 off of one brand new system because the beta graphics drivers wouldn’t load. And I’ll have to strip all of the Windows 7 machines I’m running and clean load Windows 7 when it goes gold. So, if you want to run this thing, consider that. It is a beta product, after all. But, I’ve run a lot of Windows betas, this has been the cleanest first test I’ve ever run, which speaks well of the final product.

Wrapping Up

Netbooks are going to get dramatically better in 2009, and the aggressive prices that currently surround them will likely remain aggressive, given the economic situation (and that it generally tough to raise prices, even in a good market). With products like Microsoft Mobile Mesh and Windows 7 coming to market, and the rumor of an Android-based netbook in the works, this category will likely remain one of the hottest in the segment, and some think even Apple will enter it by year’s end.

Windows 7 is looking very strong at the moment, and increasingly is providing the potential for good news in the second half of the year when it shows up. So while I still think netbooks are best when used along with a desktop computer, with Windows 7 you can live on one, and I expect more and more of you will choose to do that over the next couple of years. I’m having a ball with my HP Mini 1000 running Windows 7, and wrote this column on it. (I’m actually getting used to the keyboard size.) So the answer to my second question: Windows 7 screams on a netbook, and more and more of us will move from “maybe” to “yes” on the question of living on a netbook.

Showing 13 comments

  1. Hsinyuan at 3:09am 22nd July 2010 I have a HP mini 1001 (Taiwan eddition) with Windows XP, after seeing you artical i really want to install Windows 7 in it. The HDD is 60 GB and the ram is 1GB, do you think it will work without problems?
  2. Martin at 2:54am 7th June 2010 you can actually use vista on that machine just run the xp drivers they will work on vista too but dont download the intel driver from intels homepage do not use The hp driver
  3. David Glienna, SIOK Online at 5:27pm 26th August 2009 I did an install of RC this week for my niece. Everything works, with the exception of the webcam, and possibly the sound.

    Last thing to try is to flash the BIOS for Vista, which only says it fixes the docking station.

    Anyone have links for drivers? NVIDIA's newest ones load fine for sound and graphics
  4. SLeepdepD at 10:50am 7th July 2009 i'd like to try this. i have the HP Mini (currently running Ubuntu 9.04 NBR), Windows 7 RC install, and a key--how do you get the windows install on a USB drive? Is there utility you use?

    Thanks.
  5. Darlene at 4:35pm 5th July 2009 I have been running Windows 7 on my HP Mini also and I love it. Like you said I do not notice the lag in it like I had under the Windows XP OS. The only problem I have experienced is the internal mic not functioning properly. Anyone have any suggestions for this? I see others have experienced the same issue but have not seen any fixes yet.
  6. victor at 10:48am 26th June 2009 I have the HP 1035nr with the SSD and like it, but the screen is rather small on some applications and websites, but is much better than a smart phone. I would not go smaller than a 10" screen. Performance is fine for web browsing and word processing. These machines do not ship with anti-virus, which is a big pain and does slow them down when it is added. The 1035nr OS is also not tuned for the SSD, which is a moronic oversight from HP.

    All in all, yes, I think the netbook concept of a small, light, highly portable PC works well for many people who travel. I agree with the author that you need a home desktop, however for the bigger tasks.

    The big question to me is: will smart phones grow bigger to encroach on this territory or will netbooks gain telephony? A netbook with a Bluetooth headset might be the killer app, especially if the larger size gets you better, more reliable calls. (Cell phones still suck at phone calls!!!! CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?)

    The lighter weight Windows 7 is the right direction. A light weight antivirus would be a good match.
  7. Sanjay at 4:50pm 10th February 2009 I installed window 7 in my hp mini 1035nr. Everthing worked fine except for the microphone. Does anyone has the solution for this?

  8. Albert at 7:39am 4th February 2009 i just got the hp mini 1010nr for $225, it is a great deal for the price. i am looking forward to the 6-cell battery tho. the achilles heel for netbooks is those skimpy 3-cell batteries. something so small is going to travel everywhere and needs maximum battery capacity.

    there really is no need for more power. i dont need to play the latest 3d games on a netbook. any modern computer these days are more than enough powerful to do email/web/stream music/video and office documentation work.
  9. Ian Bell and Dan Gaul at 8:52pm 27th January 2009 Lots of analysts are predicting Netbooks will fail because they are simply not powerful enough.

    Rob, do you see this happening?
  10. Abdalla at 2:51pm 26th January 2009 I installed windows 7 on HP mini 1000. its perfect except for the mic, it doesnt work. anyone has a solution?
  11. Oday Nasser at 9:00am 24th January 2009 Windows 7 Facebook Fan Page:
    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Microsoft-Windows-7/...
  12. Rob Enderle at 9:39am 22nd January 2009 SSD drives are not only more robust but faster. I have an SSD drive in my X301 and appreciate both the speed and the silence.

    Haven't tried Zumodrive.

    Depends on how badly you need the Netbook. If you can wait those coming later in the year will have stronger graphics some will have larger screens and you'll have more choice. Some of the products I know are coming are very attractive, but so is the Tam. At this point, were it me, I'd wait but, again, it depends on your need.
  13. Sandra Warren at 9:44pm 21st January 2009 2 attempt.

    I am planning to get a Vivian Tan. 3 questions

    1. I was think of getting the SSD drive as I believe that it is more robust. Is this a good idea?
    2. Have you tried and have an opinion on Zumodrive which seems like sugarsync but is tailored for netbooks? Any opinion.
    3. Is windows 7 worth waiting for?
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