I figured it would be fun to see if I could buy an older car, trick it out, and end up with something amazing for a fraction of the cost of a typical supercar. My initial idea was to take an older (1997) Jaguar XK-8 and drop a modern, tricked-out Camaro engine in it, but this started looking like a $60,000 project, and that’s too close to the cost of a Nissan GT-R.
So back to square one.
I ran down a newer Jag (2004 Supercharged XK-R in very rare Coronado Blue) and went looking for the ultimate “carputer” stereo. I wanted something fast, but also technically cool. Having been part of the early carputer testing group in the 1990s (it didn’t end well), my hope was I could find something far closer over a decade later.
I’m far from done, and still waiting for the stereo to arrive, but I figured it would be fun to look at what I ended up ordering. Unfortunately, I apparently wasn’t alone coming to this conclusion, as the damn things are massively backordered.
My requirements
I wanted something that reflected this century, so the key was getting a stereo that either provided a way to use a tablet on the dash, or could act similar to one (touch interface, good Internet connection through a smartphone, not too much custom work, and pleasing to the eye). In short, I didn’t want a PC in the dash, I wanted an iPad-like experience in the dash. But I didn’t want the pain of actually using an iPad. Given how long Android has been out, I figured it wouldn’t be hard to find one or two that fit the bill. I was very wrong.
Ca-Fi
I’d heard about this Ca-Fi stereo some time ago, and it seemed ideal. While it wasn’t made by anyone I’d recognize, the cool thing about this product was that it was basically an Android tablet built into a good-sized stereo head unit. The nice thing about Android is that when you get a new phone or tablet and sign into Gmail, all of your stuff (including applications and settings) magically shows up. That means my Amazon and Netflix movies, music, and some of my navigation destinations would already be in the box.
Cool, sign me up! Where do I get one? And there was the problem.
While folks have been talking about this thing for around a year, apparently it hasn’t actually made it to the US yet, and so it didn’t do me any good. So great; some obscure company built one but hadn’t figure out how to import it yet (which didn’t bode well for how well it would work when it arrived).
Pioneer AVIC-Z140BH
Generally thought to be the pinnacle of technology with strong 3D interfaces and a sleek modern design the AVIC-Z140BH (could they have a more annoying name?) appears to be the best follow-up choice.
No, it wasn’t the dash-mounted tablet of the Ca-Fi, but it did have good expansion, would run Aha Radio off of my Android phone wirelessly, and Pioneer remains one of the best names in car audio. My first Jag was a Jaguar XK-E. I had put a great floor-mount Pioneer auto-reverse cassette deck in that car, loved it back in the 1970s, and have been a fan of that brand since.
However, I have a Pioneer receiver with iPhone compatibility, and it clearly has iOS teething issues, so I rarely use the Apple interface. In addition, in talking to folks that had used the product, apparently Pioneer went cheap on the processor so it is annoying slow. I’d had one of the first and only AutoPCs (the first commercial attempt at a carputer) years ago, and slow in something like this isn’t your friend. The end result was my wife constantly threatening to rip the deck out and throw it either at my head or into the street, so the Pioneer missed the cut as well. (Largely because I value my physical and mental health highly.)
You’d think that in a near $1,500 deck, Pioneer could afford to use a fast enough processor. Evidently not.
Kenwood Excelon DNX9990HD
After reading the online for ums, talking to people who had both installed and used both decks, and reconsidering whether I wanted to leave the stereo in the car (which is a nice older Alpine Jaguar head unit optically connected to a full Alpine speaker set), I ended up with the Kenwood DNX9990HD. This deck had the best Garmin navigation built in, Navteq real-time traffic updates and lane assist, Bluetooth hands free (that worked) and A2DP music transfer to pull music from the phone, HD radio, Aha Radio, twin iPod control (no more just listening to wife’s iPod music), anti-glare tilt (important in a convertible), and built in Pandora support. And it is designed for OEM steering wheel input.
With a fast processor, screen interaction isn’t annoying, and it is an attractive deck. Apparently so attractive that it is massively back ordered, which is why I’m telling you about the selection process and not about how the damn thing actually works. (I’ll do that in a later post, after I rip and replace the existing Alpine system, which I’m sadly getting kind of fond of.)
The perfect carputer still doesn’t exist
I know folks who have built PCs for their car (this is one of the best), and have seen folks install iPads in their dashes (here is one of the best). Both are too much science experiment and risk, and too little enjoyment for me at the moment. iPads tend to glare out in cars and high-quality audio from an iPad is an oxymoron. Yes, you can do it, but the resulting distractions will likely end up putting you in someone’s trunk, or the ground. To work, this stuff really needs to be designed for the car. I thought that by now someone would at least be shipping an Android-based system I could buy.
Until then, this Kenwood Excelon DNX9990HD, on paper, is as close as I’ll likely get. I’ll post how this all turns out at a much later date (or shortly after the deck arrives) with full pictures. Pray for me as I have little doubt this installation will have issues.
So I’ll likely remain in search of the perfect carputer. If you have any suggestions I’d appreciate them!
Guest contributor Rob Enderle is the founder and principal analyst for the Enderle Group, and one of the most frequently quoted tech pundits in the world. Opinion pieces denote the opinions of the author, and do not necessarily represent the views of Digital Trends.
Were you able to obtain a unit as of July 2012? If so, are you satisfied with it?
I got the Kenwood but the Bluetooth module filed and the replacement unit doesn’t arrrive till tomorrow. You need Bluetooth for the computer stuff to work. The rest is working fine though. I think what happened is when we cleared all the computers on the car somehow it purged the drivers from the unit causing it to fail and we weren’t able to do a manual driver load (we tried). I haven’t seen any reports suggesting this is problem. I’ll post on full use when I get the replacement in (likely this weekend). Sound and video are fine, Nav is basic Garmin and I’m not a fan but it works OK. There is a new Alpine due out shortly with an 8″ screen I’m tempted to try next. I’ll post an update when I have this working.
You can find out more about the Alpine here: http://www.alpine.com/e/corporate/award/201201/
I’ve found a few Chinese ones on shady websites that claim to be running android ICS for around $500. Specs looked, ok for what it was. But I don’t understand why they aren’t more mainstream… I mean, someone could rip off sync, and make it that much easier to manipulate in a car without being overly distracted.
Agree there are clearly ways around this. I just haven’t found a product (other than a tablet mount) that gives the experience I want and a tablet on the dash looks like crap.
yeah… You figure this is the obvious next step in car entertainment… Yet, nobody wants to create it. I just want something that can tether to my phone and I can stream netflix, or youtube to the head unit. Access my email or read DT ;). Seriously, what’s the hold up. Funny that you wrote this article… I have been looking for a carputer for about 2-3 years now…
There is the Pioneer App Radio, but in talking to folks that have played with it think it is a generation or two out before it gets really usable. The number of apps that actually work on it is tiny, kind of a baby step in the right direction. http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/AppRadio
hmmm… This article did spark my interest again. I did a youtube search and there seems to be a few carputers that people created. I may just have to go that route… I’ll check out that Pioneer though. Maybe keep it in my peripheral while a few gens get released. Thanks.
Good luck, let me know what you end up doing and if you like the result.
You should try building your own. I have just become the proud owner of a Raspberry Pi (http://www.raspberrypi.org) which I will be attempting to turn into a carputer.
You’ll need to buy extra parts, like a GPS receiver and a bluetooth dongle but I think, all in, it’ll cost about 200 euro.
I won’t be trying to fit permanent screen for the moment, but a 5″ touchscreen LCD shouldn’t take up too much space on the windscreen and I can take it down when not in use.
I tried that but but the interface is too big a pain in the butt to use while driving. Metro may fix this but only on ARM (you still have the old W7 interface on x86) or Android. I figure eventually someone will get a tablet interface on a display you can install on a car. But let me know how your project goes, I’ve known several folks do this who enjoyed the result but I found it too distracting (and don’t want to end up in someone’s trunk).
Have you guys considered a Linux interface like Linpus or an “LCARS” interface?
it would work – but the way technology is moving forward, the next logical step is telephony intergrated with tablets that you take with you everywhere… so they would plug into the car and/or be used as note pads at work rather than as replacements for PCs.
I’ve got a notebook that i’m dismantelling and putting back together inside my car – when i’m done, it should have telephony, GPS, as well as be able to run like a PC – the idea being i can answer calls from it, use the GPS, and if the car starts handling untowardly, i can look at some real time diagnostics.
Down side with my idea is that it would be a permenant fixture. Still, one step closer i guess!
Cool if you post the project with pictures shoot me a link. Good luck!