Apple iPod Classic (160GB) Review

8/10

The Apple iPod Classic which we review, is slim, and offers more storage, but gives current iPod owners little reason to upgrade.

Buy it Now:

Highs: Huge capacity; excellent sound quality; revamped interface

Lows: Sluggish/balky menus; no docking station included; requires iTunes 7

The newely refreshed Apple iPod, dubbed the "classic", now comes with 160GB of storage space and a new menu system.

Summary

Apple’s refreshed iPod line recently made its debut, to much fanfare. Along with new colors for the Shuffle, redesigned nanos, and innovative Touch lines, the good ole iPod we’ve come to know and love has been given the badge of “Classic” and, possibly, a new lease on life. Some would argue that Apple’s simply given up on furthering the original iPod design so totally that they hope the “Classic” moniker will set folks’ expectations low. So what can you really anticipate from the ‘all-new’ Classic models? Just that same old iPod of yesteryear, same as grandpa used to listen to, or something more?

Features and Design

A possible refresh of the iPod line had been making its way through the rumor mill since the day the previous generation hit the market. One thing seemed clear though, amid the speculation: Flash memory was not quite at the price level it needed to be to usurp hard drives when it came to 16GB+ capacity players. Bearing this in mind, Apple was faced with two choices: either leave a gaping hole in its product line by not including hard drive-based models, or bite the bullet and bring them on-board, thereby keeping the gravy train rolling for those of us with 20GB+ music libraries and a poor penchant for playlist creation. Enter the 80GB and 160GB iPod Classic.

First, the basics… no one would argue that Apple doesn’t know how to package a product – frankly, they give the consumer the best out-of-the-box experience in the industry. In keeping with tradition, the packaging for the Classic is a nicely scaled down box of minimalist design. To add a touch of class, the front surface picturing the player is also raised along the edges of the image. Pop it open and that virtual cardboard fantasy becomes a cold metal and plastic reality. In a sense, you are almost unveiling the product to yourself. This is actually kind of interesting, as it plays nicely on a psychological phenomenon called object permanence.

Apple iPod Packaging and Contents
Apple iPod Packaging and Contents

Under the tray holding the multimedia mega-monster, there is a scant quick start/warranty/disclaimer notice, followed by a bag containing the ‘accessories.’ These include ear bud headphones, a USB sync/charging cable, wall adapter and a docking station adapter to Apple-approved docking stations. (Note that there is no docking station included, but we had no trouble using our 4G iPod Photo dock.) What’s more, the new iPod Classic finally jettisons the iPod White color scheme entirely, and is offered only in black or silver, though you’ll still find those signature white ear buds in the box.

Apple iPod Classic
The Apple iPod Classic


Testing Cont’d

Once past the first two levels of the menu structure, the interface switches to a nicely-spaced, text-based scrolling scheme with summary information… or rather does, except for the Cover Flow option. That’s right: Like the newer versions of iTunes, the iPhone, the iPod Touch, and new nano, the Classic also sports Cover Flow, which allows you to flip through your albums visually. It looks nice, works well and shows no significant lag, but is ultimately useless when you have 120GB+ of music. Maybe adding Cover Flow as a sub-option under Artist or Genre would make more sense, but after using it as is, we’ll probably never touch it again. Otherwise, the Now Playing screen has been significantly revamped with much clearer text, more track information, less lag when switching tracks or moving through the Now Playing options, and, most noticeably, a nice 3D perspective of the album art with reflection below.

Of primary import, sound quality from the Classic is exceptional, as with previous iPods. There are 22 equalizer settings, though no custom setting, and user changeable volume limiter and volume normalizer. (Amusingly, the included ear buds are an embarrassment, as always, and were relegated to our bin of unused accessories.) That said, we tested the sound quality using a number of tracks ranging from Jazz and Vocal to Industrial, Rock, and Techno. All were MP3s encoded at 320kbps played through Super.fi 5 Pro in-ear monitors, and could not identify a consistently underperforming category.

Apple Coverflow
Coverflow Screenshot

Conclusion:

The Apple iPod Classic is a nice evolutionary step in iPod design aimed at previous generation owners who require more storage capacity, or new owners who don’t want to pony up premium fees for less than premium storage. Granted, the unit’s new interface changes have been well thought-out and prove welcome additions, but do require some tweaking on Apple’s end in order to make the system more responsive. The upshot being as follows: While nothing about the iPod Classic wowed us besides the capacity, we were left feeling satisfied with the purchase. If you are a current 5G iPod owner and don’t need additional space, there is no compelling reason to upgrade. But on the flip side, owners of earlier generation iPods have many nice bells and whistles to look forward to.

Pros:

• Huge capacity
• Excellent sound quality
• Revamped interface

Cons:

• Sluggish/balky menus
• No docking station included
• Requires iTunes 7 or newer
• Might not be compatible with some accessories

Setup and Use

Firing up our silver beauty, we’re greeted with the language selection screen. Voila – that’s it, nice and simple, no demo music, videos, pictures or other PMP bloatware installed, which is a welcome change from other players on the market. Of course, there’s no software CD included either, which is a first for us, meaning you’ll either need to have iTunes preinstalled or Internet access to download it. An open suggestion to Apple: Bundle a cheapo 64MB flash drive with iTunes preloaded if you want to keep packaging size down and not alienate people who pick up a new iPod when net access might not be easy. Plus, it would add a little extra class to the whole package.

Physically, the 160GB version of the Classic (which is just slightly thicker than the 80GB version) is about the same size as the 5th generation iPod, which is pretty amazing, considering that the player’s capacity nearly tripled. The screen is easily the best iPod screen we’ve seen so far, with good resolution and brightness. The matte finish metallic body further feels solid and creates a sharp edge where it meets the chrome backing. Like previous iPods, the top edge sports the headphone jack and hold button, while the bottom edge is home to the proprietary connector.

Apple iPod's Compared
Comparing the Apple iPod Classic to a 3rd Gen iPod

 

Connecting the iPod to a PC for the first time is as easy as in previous generations. We would like to see an advanced customization setting for the initial setup though, which consists of two questions before starting the longest sync of your life. Loading up close to 130GB of music and other content took approximately 3 hours, which really isn’t bad. PC users will be accustomed to the nonresponsive iTunes interface, especially during syncing. The Classic seems to take longer to eject, however, and during the final stages of syncing, required a good 30 seconds to full minute of “thinking” before completing the operation.

The most immediately apparent change from previous generations is the interface. Taking advantage of the widescreen aspect, the top-level menus are divided into two columns: One for menu options, and one for icons or background images. Once loaded up with songs, videos, and album art, album covers slowly fade and drift across the right half of the display. After we noticed the spiffy new interface tweaks, we encountered our first pet peeve with it. Scrolling through menu items in this split-screen setup is noticeably balky, making selecting items noticeably difficult.

Menu Comparison
Menu Comparison

 

The sequence generally goes as follows: Try to scroll through a few menu items with the wheel; grimace as the scrolling action starts half a second after it should; watch it stop one short of or one past the desired selection; observe as the selected icon appears; attempt to scroll onward; see no movement; try to scroll again as the first attempt to scroll kicks in; repeat back and forth until you learn the timing. This is undoubtedly a significant issue, but not a difficult one to fix, and we expect it to be addressed in a future firmware update. The correct way we’d like to see things work: All menu icons should be preloaded when the screen appears, rather than forcing the player to access the hard drive for each menu option change.


  • Granville
    The iPod 160 GB. It was clearly a compromise: All the clever stuff has gone into the Touch and in an ideal world Apple might have put a 160 GB drive into one of these. But it would have been an expensive product and that would have closed off a large portion of their market: The people who will pay stupid money for something beautiful would have gotten one of these and Apple wouldn't have sold enough of the flash models to fund further development along that route. On the other hand, those of us who look for the greatest number of gigabytes per dollar would have been left out in the cold and possibly spurned a super-expensive Touch HD in favor of a competitor's product.

    Having said that, first impressions are rather satisfying. I have had mine for less than a day but so far I'm still pretty excited about having taken the plunge to replace my slightly faulty 5G 60 GB. The Cover Flow function is wonderfully smooth and other aspects of the interface are very attractive. Out of the box it reports 143 GB of usable space and synching from a laptop with my music actually coming from an external USB hard drive was completed overnight without any problems. Menu navigation can be sluggish at times; for this reason I would like to see an option to disable the split screen functionality. Wakeup from screensaver mode (the time and a Play symbol) is also slow. A personal niggle: they still haven't addressed the problem of long album titles disappearing off the edge of the "now playing" display. How difficult can it be to either word wrap the text or scroll it side to side? They have removed the 5G feature of being able to press the center button several times and see a large version of the album cover, which is a shame. On the other hand, they have replaced it with a nifty new shuffle control: you can switch between off/albums/songs which is great when you are listening to music on "shuffle songs" and you want to hear the rest of the current album.

    In summary, I think Apple have pulled it off. It's a pretty, well built, solid looking machine with a fantastic amount of storage. Get a firmware update to us at some point soon and I will be completely happy.
  • Walker
    I bought this iPod without the knowledge that the video out option had been disabled. You cannot turn the video out option on and say watch this iPod with one of the many docking stations that let you watch the videos on a bigger screen (iPod/DVD players) This is the biggest disappointment and I would love to know why they did this. Hopefully in a firmware update this will be activated again, an iPod isn't complete unless you can use the video out option, I know that I use mine alot!!
  • Gary
    Great great great product, my ZUNE went to the teenager. I love this new iPod, I was able to use it right out of the box and the iTunes was an easy setup.
  • Junaldre
    This was the worst purchase I have ever made. I felt as if I should have burnt the money instead. I had the iPod 2 days and now it is dead. This is my second 160GB iPod. This sucks; I would not recommend any body use it.
  • Scott
    If you use the iPod with a vehicle adapter it will not work. I have a Pioneer av nav system with iPod controller and it plays for a few seconds and then stops. I returned it when I was told Apple does not support 3rd party adapters with the new gen players.
  • Ricky
    I've upgraded from a 1G nano 4GB. 160 is an ocean! a very welcome change :)i've had my iPod for 2 weeks now. Wonderful product. Very good built quality. Cover flow is a nice change to the usual way to view albums->songs, but not required. Similarly the split screen is unnecessary. Settings->about option screen is brilliant. Overall the graphics of the lists(songs/albums etc. ) and the info each list displays is very useful. Change in the 'Shuffle' facility is well thought of. Sure, its sluggish, but only at times and it doesn't kill ya. If you can live thru the video format conversion issues(nothing to do with the iPod), video viewing quality is excellent. Personally, i feel the iPod is meant for music not vdos - that's a secondary benefit and not as relaxing. Viewing vdos does tax your eyes. Lets face it, there are better options for vdo viewing, but for music - this is the best.

    It sure is much bulkier than my nano. If you don't have a clip-cover for your iPod classic 160, it is gonna occupy a pocket in your jeans and it will keep letting you know that it's there. If ultimate space is not a requirement, the 80GB model has amazing dimensions for its storage space. The best feature is what its built for - living space for your music, photos anything you can think of... storage w/o the thought of running outta space...trust me, all you can ever need in your pocket will fit in a 160GB - rather more.

    Enjoy !
  • Alejandro Barraza
    OK first of all, the compatibility issues, unless you upgrade to 1.0.2 firmware you will have problems, it scared me when with no music files at all it seems that the disc was full, and I have to reset, update and a lot of things, but hey it's a 160GB (fat32), you can use it also as an external drive but the problem are the files 4GB+up (because the fat32 limitation) but I have like 5 IPods in my family and we all agree that the classic fits the best.
  • Dominic
    I have had this iPod 10 days now and all of sudden it hung and won't go off or won't work at all. I would say the 80 GB is better because I had it for months and no problem. I don't know whether to give it back for a new one or get the 80 GB. I hope I get the right one.
  • Steve
    Hi

    I'll try to be quick with my summary--I paid 260 with year guarantee--I got the black version 160gb--very minimal extras in box hardly any instructions--not even a mains charger or screen protector included which I thought was bad--the iPod now has a matt front which is more durable then gloss versions--the back is still silver and mine was scratched after 1 day--the screen is very good--the battery is awesome 40hr for music 7hr for videos--works with vista well--I tunes seems like quite good software--mine doesn't feel slow and I have 89gb of music and 4gb of videos on there--total storage space out of box is 148 GB--1st iPod due to massive storage and I like it a lot--feels like it could break with a good drop due to weight but also feels well built in your hand so I may be wrong about the drop its just its quite heavy due to the 160gb hard drive--syncs with my computer easily--took a while to transfer music but I did do nearly 90gb in one go--its great having loads of videos and your whole music collection--IT WORKS WITH MY ALPINE CAR STEREO ALL THE CONTROLS ON THE FASCIA STILL CONTROL IPOD ETC SO PLEASED WITH THAT AS WAS WORRIED AFTER I READ ABOUT THEM LIMITING WHAT 3RD PARTY EXTRAS THEY WILL WEK WITH I HAVENT HAD ANY PROBS-- I would recommend this to anyone it seems like a great product at the moment it's a bit pricey but I got the 3yr guarantee with it so at least I am protected and it really is good having so much multimedia in your pocket :-)



    HOPE THAT HELPS
  • Derek
    I have the 160GB iPod classic and I absolutely love it but the only downfall I have found is the major lag it has when you go to change from song to song. With it being a hard drive instead of flash memory there is a substantial amount of lag having album art but otherwise a great player at a great buy.
  • Andrew
    I browsed around various alternatives and their drawbacks before deciding to just go with an iPod. Standard stuff - works with Linux. If there are any serious problems I can just replace the firmware and run Linux. Right?



    Wrong.



    Seems that apple has changed the database format, which while not insurmountable makes it awkward to upload music with Linux. The latest version of the iPod access library (libgpod) is needed, and that's not part of the latest ubuntu release. I build software for a living, and no doubt if I put my mind to it I can work around this, but there doesn't seem to be any packaged solutions just yet, and right now I just want to load up some music and go on holiday.



    I figured I'd just use windows/iTunes for the time being. ITunes needed to be upgraded to work with this iPod, but wouldn't upgrade in the normal way. After uninstalling and reinstalling it seems to work, albeit very slowly, and with a variety of crashes of both the iPod and the iTunes software. You'd think that apple would have included info on how to reboot the iPod in the instructions, but no. I figured out you can do it by holding down both the top (menu) and centre of the control pad for a few seconds.



    Slowly I'm getting there, but I'm really hoping to be able to get rid of apple's software soon. Unfortunately it seems that apple has also messed with the system for uploading new firmware, such that rock box is saying that they likely will never be able to be compatible with the iPod classic.



    160GB of storage is great, but I'm very tempted to return this thing and get an older model.
  • Nathan Cooper
    Hey, I just ordered one on Friday so should be here soon. I ordered the 160gb in black. I have the ezvision x4 video glasses which is why I have bought a iPod for portable viewing but I just found out I need an AV cable. If you buy an AV cable make sure not to buy a 3rd party one like Belkin because they don't work. Thanks for the reviews, they helped a lot.
  • Hunter Lutringer
    I have bought 2 160 GB iPods so far. The first one last about a day, right before I left on a trip it froze. I then went to the apple store and the replaced it, which was cool. The new iPod was doing fine until yesterday when it froze. I don't know what is wrong but this is becoming very annoying.
  • Mark
    After trying some cheap MP3 players and discovering that 70% of the accessories are for Apple, I plopped down $350 for n iPod Classic 160GB. It would hold all the music I could ever want plus hold movies and play them back at will for the kiddies. WRONG. Boy was I wrong. I had been seriously considering an Archos 605 160GB before this disaster and am now sorry I didn't go that route.



    APPLE HAS PURPOSELY CRIPPLED THE VIDEO OUT ON THE 6G CLASSIC IPOD AND ITOUCH UNITS. THE ONLY WAY TO GET THIS WORK IS TO PURCHASE A $50 CABLE FROM APPLE.



    They have incorporated a chip in this cable which will enable the video out to function. This pretty much renders ALL THIRD PARTY ACCESSORIES USELESS (save the $600 B&W Zeppelin) that has a video out port...like my new Athens iVoice speakers, and my highly portable and handy retractable AV cable. Apple did this quietly and did not even release suitable accessories until months after the iPods were released. Now I have to spend another $50 on a frigging cable. Forget about any other accessories. Who knows what will work and what won't.



    If you are considering purchasing an Apple product, I would seriously consider any other brand.
  • John R Cannon
    I've no interest in buying songs from iTunes, but use the iPod Classic 160 GB to store my own compositions: http://members.sibeliusmusic.com/johncannon

    I also transfer my own DVD+R videos (using Adobe Premiere Elements 4 to compress files to mp4). The results are excellent. This is my first iPod and I am very satisfied.
  • Andy
    Hi,

    I got the iPod Classis 160Gb for my birthday and I have had no problems with it at all. I just update it lots and look after it. So if you are looking for a MP3 I think you should go for the iPod Classic 80Gb or 160Gb.

    Hope this helps. :D
  • Monza
    Just bought my iPod 160Gb. Purchased some games and playing mMonopoly, my iPod just froze. Reset with 'key' combination just did the job. No loss of info and hooked it to my (apple) notebook and all was sync'd.

    This is my 5th ipod (itouch, ipod nano, ipod classic 80Gb and ipod 20Gb). No complaints so far.

    The only downside is its back.. lot's of scratches

    in the end a great 'tool'.....
  • Ardens Machina
    I've owned my iPod for about 4 days. I've been able to listen to music for 1. When I sync through iTunes it freezes, eventually giving me an unknown error. I've had to restore my iPod to factory settings twice now(I'm actually doing it the second time while I write this.) Since there isn't a built in restore I have to go to the public library to restore since I don't have internet at my home. Overall I'm not very happy.
  • Jason
    Had mine for about five months now. It's my first iPOD. I've been reluctant to get one as I have 1,000 or so CD's and didn't want to deal with transferring, etc. Well, it took three months of pretty constant (1-2 hours a day) uploading but all music is on and, I hate to say it, I couldn't live without the thing now.... All my music (11,000 songs...don't know how many albums) at my disposal. Sound quality is better than expected, even when plugged into my home stereo.

    DOWNSIDE: Menu's are slow/sluggish much of the time. However, I consider this minor given the capacity of the unit (I have four movies on it as well for my kids to watch while traveling long distances!).

    I'd get one again if this one dies. I suppose that says it all.
  • kevin kaptain
    Buying this iPod has been one of the worst mistakes of my life. I have wasted countless hours adding my CD collection to iTunes and syncing to the iPod just to find out that a majority of the songs get cut short while playing back on the iPod. I've reset, restored, re-installed, re-everything over and over....I'm fed up with this piece of junk.
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