Comments on: CES and MacWorld: Hits and Misses http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/ces-and-macworld-hits-and-misses/ Upgrade Your Lifestyle Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:30:12 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Ian Bell http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/ces-and-macworld-hits-and-misses/#comment-58541 Ian Bell Sat, 28 Jan 2006 10:13:48 +0000 #comment-58541 Here is a good article comparing Jobs to Gates: <a href="http://www.wired.com/news/columns/0,70072-0.html?tw" title="http://www.wired.com/news/columns/0,70072-0.html?tw" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.wired.com/news/columns/0,70072-0.html?t...</a> Here is a good article comparing Jobs to Gates: http://www.wired.com/news/columns/0,70072-0.html?t...

]]> By: Jim Hall http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/ces-and-macworld-hits-and-misses/#comment-58540 Jim Hall Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:21:57 +0000 #comment-58540 J.B. Zimmerman,<br /> <br /> I think you are missing Robs point. Last time I checked it was ok to say that you were "dissapointed" in MacWorld without being attacked my Apple fanboys. If I had paid to attend MacWorld, I would have been bummed too. No new announcements or products at all. What a waste of a show to be honest. Sorry but I think you are going a little overboard.<br /> <br /> Jobs statement to me was "we already announced that we are using Intel products, now I am just confirming it" nothing we havent heard before. J.B. Zimmerman,

I think you are missing Robs point. Last time I checked it was ok to say that you were “dissapointed” in MacWorld without being attacked my Apple fanboys. If I had paid to attend MacWorld, I would have been bummed too. No new announcements or products at all. What a waste of a show to be honest. Sorry but I think you are going a little overboard.

Jobs statement to me was “we already announced that we are using Intel products, now I am just confirming it” nothing we havent heard before.

]]> By: J.B. Zimmerman http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/ces-and-macworld-hits-and-misses/#comment-58539 J.B. Zimmerman Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:08:04 +0000 #comment-58539 Mr. Enderle:<br /> I think you're missing the design statement here. The entire point of these introductions was that, in fact, there was no change. That was in itself a technology statement cloaked in a design decision. In other words, Steve Jobs and Apple just told their consumer base "Don't worry. It's a Mac. It's just like the Mac you had yesterday. Only faster." Sure, they could have come out with something New and Kool(aid)...but there are great reasons not to (yet). When you're working 6 months ahead of the announced schedule, perhaps the engineering challenges of redesigning both the board-level/internal components *and* a full external refresh are too much to risk. Also, your company is about to embark on a highly publicized, highly visible platform change. The message here was stability, consistency and continuity. They *wanted* the reviewers to say "Yup, it's a Mac. Looks like one, acts like one, no big difference."<br /> <br /> And you did. Mr. Enderle:
I think you're missing the design statement here. The entire point of these introductions was that, in fact, there was no change. That was in itself a technology statement cloaked in a design decision. In other words, Steve Jobs and Apple just told their consumer base “Don't worry. It's a Mac. It's just like the Mac you had yesterday. Only faster.” Sure, they could have come out with something New and Kool(aid)…but there are great reasons not to (yet). When you're working 6 months ahead of the announced schedule, perhaps the engineering challenges of redesigning both the board-level/internal components *and* a full external refresh are too much to risk. Also, your company is about to embark on a highly publicized, highly visible platform change. The message here was stability, consistency and continuity. They *wanted* the reviewers to say “Yup, it's a Mac. Looks like one, acts like one, no big difference.”

And you did.

]]> By: Tantrum http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/ces-and-macworld-hits-and-misses/#comment-58538 Tantrum Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:38:54 +0000 #comment-58538 hahaha gotta love Mac zealots! blinded by idiocy! haha hahaha gotta love Mac zealots! blinded by idiocy! haha

]]> By: Kesh http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/ces-and-macworld-hits-and-misses/#comment-58537 Kesh Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:08:51 +0000 #comment-58537 Rob Enderle, u make me laugh old man. You're full of ****, i forget u're an Microsoft Expert ain't u ? Leave the Mac to mac users and take care of your own ****. Rob Enderle, u make me laugh old man. You're full of ****, i forget u're an Microsoft Expert ain't u ? Leave the Mac to mac users and take care of your own ****.

]]> By: Feep http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/ces-and-macworld-hits-and-misses/#comment-58536 Feep Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:00:09 +0000 #comment-58536 Rob, <br /> <br /> How much are you getting paid to diss Apple all of the time? You don't know squat about Macs, which is obvious from your constant snafus in your articles (e.g. Titanium has not been used in PowerBooks for a while - it's aluminum!). Further, anyone who talks about "Mac Zealots" are missing the point. The point is that every article written by Enderle has an underlying slant toward Microsoft. And most of his articles bash the Mac in some way or another.<br /> <br /> BTW, I develop software on SQL server on Windows. I know the strengths and limits of both operating systems. If Enderle truly was a technology aficionado, he'd appreciate both platforms. Obviously he is not. Rob,

How much are you getting paid to diss Apple all of the time? You don't know squat about Macs, which is obvious from your constant snafus in your articles (e.g. Titanium has not been used in PowerBooks for a while – it's aluminum!). Further, anyone who talks about “Mac Zealots” are missing the point. The point is that every article written by Enderle has an underlying slant toward Microsoft. And most of his articles bash the Mac in some way or another.

BTW, I develop software on SQL server on Windows. I know the strengths and limits of both operating systems. If Enderle truly was a technology aficionado, he'd appreciate both platforms. Obviously he is not.

]]> By: Bill http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/ces-and-macworld-hits-and-misses/#comment-58535 Bill Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:36:34 +0000 #comment-58535 To M. T. MacPhee:<br /> <br /> You sound very ignorant, since when is Mossberg the "authority" on PC's? The guy is like 80 years old and probably likes Apple products because they come with a whole two buttons on them; they are easy to use.<br /> <br /> And in regards to the Titanium reference, gimme a break he was not being literal, you do not need to take things out of context to make a point, it just makes you look more like a zealot.<br /> <br /> And to everyone reading this: I love Apple products, but you guys give a lot of us a bad rep when you bash anyone who whispers a negative comment about Apple. Apple is a far-from-perfect company....remember they screwed us over on the nano with its scratches, they sued Apple fan sites and they refused to replace the crappy batteries in our iPods... To M. T. MacPhee:

You sound very ignorant, since when is Mossberg the “authority” on PC's? The guy is like 80 years old and probably likes Apple products because they come with a whole two buttons on them; they are easy to use.

And in regards to the Titanium reference, gimme a break he was not being literal, you do not need to take things out of context to make a point, it just makes you look more like a zealot.

And to everyone reading this: I love Apple products, but you guys give a lot of us a bad rep when you bash anyone who whispers a negative comment about Apple. Apple is a far-from-perfect company….remember they screwed us over on the nano with its scratches, they sued Apple fan sites and they refused to replace the crappy batteries in our iPods…

]]> By: Hugh http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/ces-and-macworld-hits-and-misses/#comment-58534 Hugh Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:28:06 +0000 #comment-58534 You Mac Zealots need to get a freaking life, he just voiced his own views, hell he even compliments Apple: <br /> <br /> "However, I don?t expect to remain disappointed for long. Apple is largely a second half company and I believe these first two systems are more ?test of concept? than final designs for the new platform. Initial volumes for any new processor are low; it will take a while for Intel to ramp to enough volume to meet the needs of all its customers (unlike IBM, Apple doesn?t have a high priority with Intel, based on their relatively modest volumes). "<br /> <br /> Leave the guy alone. And Mossberg is obviously drinking the Apple Koolaid, it makes me wonder if he isn't being paid off...<br /> <br /> I thought Robs MacWorld assessment was right on. So Intel will be in the new Macs, big freaking deal, we already knew about that. Mac World didn't show us anything new, same old announcements. Besides, I heard that the FSB on the new Intel chip was being throttled down on some of the Apple systems so it would not compete with their own desktops. Talk about lame! You Mac Zealots need to get a freaking life, he just voiced his own views, hell he even compliments Apple:

“However, I don?t expect to remain disappointed for long. Apple is largely a second half company and I believe these first two systems are more ?test of concept? than final designs for the new platform. Initial volumes for any new processor are low; it will take a while for Intel to ramp to enough volume to meet the needs of all its customers (unlike IBM, Apple doesn?t have a high priority with Intel, based on their relatively modest volumes). “

Leave the guy alone. And Mossberg is obviously drinking the Apple Koolaid, it makes me wonder if he isn't being paid off…

I thought Robs MacWorld assessment was right on. So Intel will be in the new Macs, big freaking deal, we already knew about that. Mac World didn't show us anything new, same old announcements. Besides, I heard that the FSB on the new Intel chip was being throttled down on some of the Apple systems so it would not compete with their own desktops. Talk about lame!

]]> By: thomcarl http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/ces-and-macworld-hits-and-misses/#comment-58533 thomcarl Mon, 23 Jan 2006 10:45:41 +0000 #comment-58533 So your disappointed, Rob nobody cares. You really are on the thick side. So your disappointed, Rob nobody cares. You really are on the thick side.

]]> By: M. T. MacPhee http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/ces-and-macworld-hits-and-misses/#comment-58532 M. T. MacPhee Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:54:10 +0000 #comment-58532 Walt Mossberg, the highly regarded technical reviewer for the highly regarded New York Journal says: <br /> <br /> "Apple's iMac, with its new Intel processor, is still the gold standard of consumer desktop PCs. And it stands to get better over time."<br /> <br /> Enderle, the MS shill, says: "Blah, blah, blah."<br /> <br /> How can the "Gold Standard" be "dated"? How can it "lack innovation" (no one has even managed to copy it yet)? <br /> <br /> Oh. And Rob. Titanium? TITANIUM? Apple has not used titanium as the case material for years and years. Don't you think an analyst - you - should get at least the basic facts correct? Walt Mossberg, the highly regarded technical reviewer for the highly regarded New York Journal says:

“Apple's iMac, with its new Intel processor, is still the gold standard of consumer desktop PCs. And it stands to get better over time.”

Enderle, the MS shill, says: “Blah, blah, blah.”

How can the “Gold Standard” be “dated”? How can it “lack innovation” (no one has even managed to copy it yet)?

Oh. And Rob. Titanium? TITANIUM? Apple has not used titanium as the case material for years and years. Don't you think an analyst – you – should get at least the basic facts correct?

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