Comments on: Four Reasons Google Chrome Will Topple Firefox? but not Microsoft http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/four-reasons-google-chrome-will-topple-firefox-but-not-microsoft/ Upgrade Your Lifestyle Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:06:50 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: tiger kelleway http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/four-reasons-google-chrome-will-topple-firefox-but-not-microsoft/#comment-60354 tiger kelleway Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:48:13 +0000 #comment-60354 how do you g et mozilla firefox and still have the internet how do you g et mozilla firefox and still have the internet

]]> By: Stu http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/four-reasons-google-chrome-will-topple-firefox-but-not-microsoft/#comment-60392 Stu Sun, 14 Dec 2008 23:28:28 +0000 #comment-60392 I use realestate.com.au but Chrome does not load the maps now? IE does so what is the prob here. I am running windows XP and Chrome was OK with the maps but not anymore. I use realestate.com.au but Chrome does not load the maps now? IE does so what is the prob here. I am running windows XP and Chrome was OK with the maps but not anymore.

]]> By: josvazg http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/four-reasons-google-chrome-will-topple-firefox-but-not-microsoft/#comment-60355 josvazg Mon, 15 Sep 2008 04:36:33 +0000 #comment-60355 I agree with Nick's article nearly 100% (I am not sure if the first point he states about google apps interoperability is that important, but the other 3 are definitive)<br /> <br /> Those saying that Chrome targets Windows and not IE... keep on dreaming! As much as I would like M$ to loose its suffocating monopoly.... why did they (Google) make Chrome Windows-only first then? It is still to see if the promised Linux&Mac versions will be as up-to-date as the Windows one or if they will lag behind. <br /> <br /> To make Windows redundant they first need to make Chrome NOT depend on Windows. It is still to see if they get it.<br /> <br /> Another thing is that many applications that people and corporations use and need run only as local/rich-clients apps. And most of them are tied ONLY to Microsoft's Windows. And this is not going to change anytime soon (unfortunately) and...<br /> <br /> ...No threat to Windows => IE % of market >66% ALLWAYS!!!<br /> <br /> The other point about Chrome copying FF (and viceversa), although true, hides the fact that there are features in Chrome that FF does not have now and will have a hard time to adquire in the future, because Chrome starts off from a cleaner set of components:<br /> <br /> - Chrome startups at the SPEED OF LIGHT!!! And don't expect that anytime soon in FF beacuse is too tighthed to "fatty Gecko". Users will go "but this FF starts SOO Slowly!"<br /> <br /> - Chrome multiprocess is good even for non-techies. "...oldFF used to crash completely with those flash pages, now only the flash breaks and I just reload the page" This is not easy for FF to copy either.<br /> <br /> - Chrome uses MUCH less view space, but FF now still uses OS window decorators and a old-fashing textual-app menu that make it more screen-hungry. "With Asus EEE 901 1024x600 I don't have to scroll as much with Chrome as I needed to with my old-FF". This is also difficult for FF to adopt (but not as much as the previous ones)<br /> <br /> I agree with Nick's article nearly 100% (I am not sure if the first point he states about google apps interoperability is that important, but the other 3 are definitive)

Those saying that Chrome targets Windows and not IE… keep on dreaming! As much as I would like M$ to loose its suffocating monopoly…. why did they (Google) make Chrome Windows-only first then? It is still to see if the promised Linux&Mac versions will be as up-to-date as the Windows one or if they will lag behind.

To make Windows redundant they first need to make Chrome NOT depend on Windows. It is still to see if they get it.

Another thing is that many applications that people and corporations use and need run only as local/rich-clients apps. And most of them are tied ONLY to Microsoft's Windows. And this is not going to change anytime soon (unfortunately) and…

…No threat to Windows => IE % of market >66% ALLWAYS!!!

The other point about Chrome copying FF (and viceversa), although true, hides the fact that there are features in Chrome that FF does not have now and will have a hard time to adquire in the future, because Chrome starts off from a cleaner set of components:

- Chrome startups at the SPEED OF LIGHT!!! And don't expect that anytime soon in FF beacuse is too tighthed to “fatty Gecko”. Users will go “but this FF starts SOO Slowly!”

- Chrome multiprocess is good even for non-techies. “…oldFF used to crash completely with those flash pages, now only the flash breaks and I just reload the page” This is not easy for FF to copy either.

- Chrome uses MUCH less view space, but FF now still uses OS window decorators and a old-fashing textual-app menu that make it more screen-hungry. “With Asus EEE 901 1024×600 I don't have to scroll as much with Chrome as I needed to with my old-FF”. This is also difficult for FF to adopt (but not as much as the previous ones)

]]> By: The P-town Player â?¥ http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/four-reasons-google-chrome-will-topple-firefox-but-not-microsoft/#comment-60357 The P-town Player â?¥ Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:27:32 +0000 #comment-60357 Hey Free-Dumb,<br /> google makes mad moves like when it took over youtube, or did you 4get about a lil thing called google maps. Google rewrote the book on search engines world and will do the same with chrome!<br /> So keep play'n the game Nick and don't let the haters out there stop ya from spit'n the dt tech game with no shame!!!! Hey Free-Dumb,
google makes mad moves like when it took over youtube, or did you 4get about a lil thing called google maps. Google rewrote the book on search engines world and will do the same with chrome!
So keep play'n the game Nick and don't let the haters out there stop ya from spit'n the dt tech game with no shame!!!!

]]> By: Fr33d0m http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/four-reasons-google-chrome-will-topple-firefox-but-not-microsoft/#comment-60356 Fr33d0m Tue, 09 Sep 2008 11:33:15 +0000 #comment-60356 Those who think Chrome will topple FF are not thinking very hard.<br /> <br /> First, Google has their sights set elsewhere. Chrome may or may not continue to evolve, but it is just as likely that it will disappear as other browsers are affected by its gravity. Remember, as RobFlo indicated, Chrome's mission is limited to Google's cloud.<br /> <br /> Second, FF (as well as IE these days) are not static. They too can evolve and are likely to adopt some of Chrome's ideas as long as Chrome continues to hold the public's attention. To hold that attentionChrome will need add blocking at a minimum, but more likely an entire infrastructure that makes it extensible. Those tasks may be outside of Chorme's original intent. With FF adopting a new JavaScript engine that seems destined to out pace Chrome, there will not be too many huge reasons to keep Chrome around.<br /> <br /> It is to our advantage that Chrome suck as much oxygen out of the browser market as it can since that increases the likelihood that the FF development team will sit up and take notice of all the large and small shiny bits of Chrome and assimilate them. Those who think Chrome will topple FF are not thinking very hard.

First, Google has their sights set elsewhere. Chrome may or may not continue to evolve, but it is just as likely that it will disappear as other browsers are affected by its gravity. Remember, as RobFlo indicated, Chrome's mission is limited to Google's cloud.

Second, FF (as well as IE these days) are not static. They too can evolve and are likely to adopt some of Chrome's ideas as long as Chrome continues to hold the public's attention. To hold that attentionChrome will need add blocking at a minimum, but more likely an entire infrastructure that makes it extensible. Those tasks may be outside of Chorme's original intent. With FF adopting a new JavaScript engine that seems destined to out pace Chrome, there will not be too many huge reasons to keep Chrome around.

It is to our advantage that Chrome suck as much oxygen out of the browser market as it can since that increases the likelihood that the FF development team will sit up and take notice of all the large and small shiny bits of Chrome and assimilate them.

]]> By: RobFlo http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/four-reasons-google-chrome-will-topple-firefox-but-not-microsoft/#comment-60369 RobFlo Sun, 07 Sep 2008 21:10:08 +0000 #comment-60369 Provocative article. "Never" is always a strong word, unlike FF you don't even have to go looking for Chrome, since the vast unwashed all use Google, the link and temptation to try is right there in front of them hence the huge initial numbers!<br /> However I believe that most commentators continue to miss the major thrust of Google's intent, "Rob Enderle - Chrome is designed to be a front end to Google's Cloud and it will allow applications that are web based to appear more similar to locally running applications." (above)<br /> Just goto "Control the current Page" and there is the key - Create Application Shortcut!!! This is one of the key reasons for Chrome. Just log into your Gmail account and then select to create an application short cut, not only do you get an option to save it to "Desktop", "Start Menu" and "Quicklaunch" but when you do the Icon is not the typical FF or IE webpage but a custom Gmail red envelope and what is more when you open this new "application shortcut" you get an even more stripped down browser window 'less chrome' that makes Gmail/Docs/Calendar look more and more like a locally installed application all that is missing is the local offline storage with internet sync back into the Google cloud... gears is the tool for this and what to you know GG is installed as part of Chrome... is this starting to paint the picture yet.<br /> While I agree with many of the comments about the benefits/short comings of Chrome vs FF vs IE lets keep sight of the main game, once your applications run on all OSes (in a Chrome browser) and there is both offline and cloud sync why do I even care about MS, Apple, Linux desktop, laptop, netbook, mobile my information is available where ever I need it. So long as I can trust big brother G with it. :-) <br /> <br /> <br /> Provocative article. “Never” is always a strong word, unlike FF you don't even have to go looking for Chrome, since the vast unwashed all use Google, the link and temptation to try is right there in front of them hence the huge initial numbers!
However I believe that most commentators continue to miss the major thrust of Google's intent, “Rob Enderle – Chrome is designed to be a front end to Google's Cloud and it will allow applications that are web based to appear more similar to locally running applications.” (above)
Just goto “Control the current Page” and there is the key – Create Application Shortcut!!! This is one of the key reasons for Chrome. Just log into your Gmail account and then select to create an application short cut, not only do you get an option to save it to “Desktop”, “Start Menu” and “Quicklaunch” but when you do the Icon is not the typical FF or IE webpage but a custom Gmail red envelope and what is more when you open this new “application shortcut” you get an even more stripped down browser window 'less chrome' that makes Gmail/Docs/Calendar look more and more like a locally installed application all that is missing is the local offline storage with internet sync back into the Google cloud… gears is the tool for this and what to you know GG is installed as part of Chrome… is this starting to paint the picture yet.
While I agree with many of the comments about the benefits/short comings of Chrome vs FF vs IE lets keep sight of the main game, once your applications run on all OSes (in a Chrome browser) and there is both offline and cloud sync why do I even care about MS, Apple, Linux desktop, laptop, netbook, mobile my information is available where ever I need it. So long as I can trust big brother G with it. :-)

]]> By: Stu http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/four-reasons-google-chrome-will-topple-firefox-but-not-microsoft/#comment-60367 Stu Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:46:26 +0000 #comment-60367 3% in a day is impressive - but what is that number now? I used Chrome for 5 mins and thought it was nice, but it's just a browser. After that it was back to Firefox with adblocker, better gmail, greasemonkey, colouredtabs, etc which gives firefox all the more staying power. 3% in a day is impressive – but what is that number now? I used Chrome for 5 mins and thought it was nice, but it's just a browser. After that it was back to Firefox with adblocker, better gmail, greasemonkey, colouredtabs, etc which gives firefox all the more staying power.

]]> By: Leiton http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/four-reasons-google-chrome-will-topple-firefox-but-not-microsoft/#comment-60365 Leiton Sun, 07 Sep 2008 18:47:03 +0000 #comment-60365 Google revolutionised search engine indexing. Other search engines stepped up and cleaned up their act so they could be competitive with Google. Although these other search engines are still lame, they have come along way.<br /> <br /> This trend applies to all technology, one clever idea revolutionises a specific part of technology then the competing MONKEY will copy them. The MONKEY wont get it rite, but they will get close.<br /> <br /> Monkey see monkey do. Google revolutionised search engine indexing. Other search engines stepped up and cleaned up their act so they could be competitive with Google. Although these other search engines are still lame, they have come along way.

This trend applies to all technology, one clever idea revolutionises a specific part of technology then the competing MONKEY will copy them. The MONKEY wont get it rite, but they will get close.

Monkey see monkey do.

]]> By: Leiton http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/four-reasons-google-chrome-will-topple-firefox-but-not-microsoft/#comment-60366 Leiton Sun, 07 Sep 2008 18:47:03 +0000 #comment-60366 Google revolutionised search engine indexing. Other search engines stepped up and cleaned up their act so they could be competitive with Google. Although these other search engines are still lame, they have come along way.<br /> <br /> This trend applies to all technology, one clever idea revolutionises a specific part of technology then the competing MONKEY will copy them. The MONKEY wont get it rite, but they will get close.<br /> <br /> Monkey see monkey do. Google revolutionised search engine indexing. Other search engines stepped up and cleaned up their act so they could be competitive with Google. Although these other search engines are still lame, they have come along way.

This trend applies to all technology, one clever idea revolutionises a specific part of technology then the competing MONKEY will copy them. The MONKEY wont get it rite, but they will get close.

Monkey see monkey do.

]]> By: ICEBREAKERdt http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/four-reasons-google-chrome-will-topple-firefox-but-not-microsoft/#comment-60364 ICEBREAKERdt Sun, 07 Sep 2008 15:02:12 +0000 #comment-60364 Right on Nick! You points are all solid about chrome! I use google tools all day long and for me chrome just works better! Right on Nick! You points are all solid about chrome! I use google tools all day long and for me chrome just works better!

]]>