Comments on: Next-Gen Consoles: A Numbers Game http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/next-gen-consoles-a-numbers-game/ Upgrade Your Lifestyle Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:17:47 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Tiburonsito http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/next-gen-consoles-a-numbers-game/#comment-58983 Tiburonsito Sat, 24 Jun 2006 09:00:07 +0000 #comment-58983 Tiburonsito here......well to start off, there's gonna be a huge fued against these companies. Not through the companies but by the gamers themselves. You have to look at the facts, Nintendo Wii is gonna be the #1 console. Look at what Nintendo did with Super Mario 64. That was the first time where you actually "felt" like you were in the game, with the 3rd point & 1st point perspective view. Read what "Zxceelxuz" says. Come on in all seriousness would you rather continue pressing buttons just as the PS1, PS2 and now PS3 again offered in Madden(or any other sport) rather than actually like swinging the controller simulating a throw of a football. Second of all the Wii's cost beats everyone. Third of all i personally like Sony but im a Nintendo hardcore fan and what Sony did of stealing the idea of a motion sensor controller was brutal. That wasn't necessary.<br /> <br /> And as for the Nintendo Wii's controller(I KNOW NINTENDO WILL DO THIS) i know there gonna make a variety of different connections for that controller rather than just the "Nunchuck". And as for the depth of sound in the controller...brilliant. PS3 might have backward compatibility with the PS1 AND PS2(wow..) but the Wii has backward compatibility to the FULLEST. NES, SNES, N64, and even Gamecube that you can directly play on the Wii. <br /> <br /> To conclude this, come on be serious what are the PS3 and XBOX 360 really focusing on? Graphics, new games, and a thing called Bue ray. The XBOX 360 is basically the same thing. As for the Wii, they might have not have reached the graphic power of the ps3 and xbox360, but the wii sure has better graphics, a new controller, backward compatibility, also you dont need and HDTV to play the wii at its full power. And the cost....hehe.....<br /> <br /> PS3- $500-$600 <br /> <br /> XBOX 360- $300-$400<br /> <br /> Nintendo Wii- hehe...priceless(compared to the other systems lol) Tiburonsito here……well to start off, there's gonna be a huge fued against these companies. Not through the companies but by the gamers themselves. You have to look at the facts, Nintendo Wii is gonna be the #1 console. Look at what Nintendo did with Super Mario 64. That was the first time where you actually “felt” like you were in the game, with the 3rd point & 1st point perspective view. Read what “Zxceelxuz” says. Come on in all seriousness would you rather continue pressing buttons just as the PS1, PS2 and now PS3 again offered in Madden(or any other sport) rather than actually like swinging the controller simulating a throw of a football. Second of all the Wii's cost beats everyone. Third of all i personally like Sony but im a Nintendo hardcore fan and what Sony did of stealing the idea of a motion sensor controller was brutal. That wasn't necessary.

And as for the Nintendo Wii's controller(I KNOW NINTENDO WILL DO THIS) i know there gonna make a variety of different connections for that controller rather than just the “Nunchuck”. And as for the depth of sound in the controller…brilliant. PS3 might have backward compatibility with the PS1 AND PS2(wow..) but the Wii has backward compatibility to the FULLEST. NES, SNES, N64, and even Gamecube that you can directly play on the Wii.

To conclude this, come on be serious what are the PS3 and XBOX 360 really focusing on? Graphics, new games, and a thing called Bue ray. The XBOX 360 is basically the same thing. As for the Wii, they might have not have reached the graphic power of the ps3 and xbox360, but the wii sure has better graphics, a new controller, backward compatibility, also you dont need and HDTV to play the wii at its full power. And the cost….hehe…..

PS3- $500-$600

XBOX 360- $300-$400

Nintendo Wii- hehe…priceless(compared to the other systems lol)

]]> By: Ian Bell http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/next-gen-consoles-a-numbers-game/#comment-58982 Ian Bell Thu, 01 Jun 2006 16:39:41 +0000 #comment-58982 A lot of the common themes I see focus around the hardware instead of the games. Let's take the hardware out of the equation and look at the game line-ups instead, regardless of graphics.<br /> <br /> With that being said, I really see the Wii pulling out a little ahead. I think Sony will also have a strong game line-up. I see the Xbox struggling once again, although I like the Xbox Live Arcade. A lot of the common themes I see focus around the hardware instead of the games. Let's take the hardware out of the equation and look at the game line-ups instead, regardless of graphics.

With that being said, I really see the Wii pulling out a little ahead. I think Sony will also have a strong game line-up. I see the Xbox struggling once again, although I like the Xbox Live Arcade.

]]> By: Roy Anderson http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/next-gen-consoles-a-numbers-game/#comment-58981 Roy Anderson Thu, 01 Jun 2006 09:32:56 +0000 #comment-58981 I'm a big PS2 gamer, but I'll be going down the route of the 360. I've seen the scheduled game release line-up. I've reviewed the 3 systems stats. Paying an extra 200 hundred is pointless. I'd prefer to buy the 360 and get an extra 3 games instead. I'm a big PS2 gamer, but I'll be going down the route of the 360. I've seen the scheduled game release line-up. I've reviewed the 3 systems stats. Paying an extra 200 hundred is pointless. I'd prefer to buy the 360 and get an extra 3 games instead.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/next-gen-consoles-a-numbers-game/#comment-58971 Andrew Wed, 31 May 2006 16:05:11 +0000 #comment-58971 yea sony's pricing may be a bit high, but considered that an independent blu-ray player is gonna cost you atleast $800 the ps3 is like a bargain<br /> <br /> although im still unsure if sony has made a huge step in the right direction with the blu-ray or if they have shot themselves in the foot yea sony's pricing may be a bit high, but considered that an independent blu-ray player is gonna cost you atleast $800 the ps3 is like a bargain

although im still unsure if sony has made a huge step in the right direction with the blu-ray or if they have shot themselves in the foot

]]> By: Ghe http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/next-gen-consoles-a-numbers-game/#comment-58980 Ghe Wed, 31 May 2006 15:19:12 +0000 #comment-58980 Hardcore gamers... And I thought being "hardcore" anything was merely how much resources, dedication and enthusiam you put into something...<br /> <br /> The only thing standing against the PS3 right now is the price tag which I think many people who hate the price will end up paying it later on or wait for a price drop. I hate the price too but I'll most likely end up purchasing one. I also have serious doubts about people not purchasing the console solely based on the lack of a rumble feature and most likely they'll implement it later on.<br /> <br /> I'm looking forward to the Wii as well and considering it's low price point and my love for Nintendo games I will definitely purchase this. Additionally, Nintendo may seem "kiddy" but looking around my dorms, nobody seems to really care. Nintendo has some fun games... some seem pretty lame at first but they are loads of fun to play once you give them a shot.<br /> <br /> Xbox 360... I was never a big fan of the Xbox and I'm not impressed with the 360. Hardcore gamers… And I thought being “hardcore” anything was merely how much resources, dedication and enthusiam you put into something…

The only thing standing against the PS3 right now is the price tag which I think many people who hate the price will end up paying it later on or wait for a price drop. I hate the price too but I'll most likely end up purchasing one. I also have serious doubts about people not purchasing the console solely based on the lack of a rumble feature and most likely they'll implement it later on.

I'm looking forward to the Wii as well and considering it's low price point and my love for Nintendo games I will definitely purchase this. Additionally, Nintendo may seem “kiddy” but looking around my dorms, nobody seems to really care. Nintendo has some fun games… some seem pretty lame at first but they are loads of fun to play once you give them a shot.

Xbox 360… I was never a big fan of the Xbox and I'm not impressed with the 360.

]]> By: CaucasianDJ http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/next-gen-consoles-a-numbers-game/#comment-58979 CaucasianDJ Wed, 31 May 2006 06:20:55 +0000 #comment-58979 This next generation is going to be all about competitive gaming, because the gaming market is expanding, and a lot of people want to show off their accomplishments in games. Gamecube a distant 3rd? I beg to differ. The sales are close (only 1-2 million units apart) between Xbox and Gamecube, with PS2 way ahead, having more than half the market share.<br /> <br /> PlayStation doesn't have the hardcore gamer appeal, Gamecube and Xbox do. If you look at MLG (Major League Gaming), their 2 professionally played games are Halo 2 (Xbox) and Super Smash Bros. Melee (Gamecube). Where's the PS2? I'll tell you, it's not there, because it's not a system that attracts hardcore gamers. Since this trend of brands will continue into the next generation, but hardcore gaming will be expanded, guess who comes out to be the loser. This next generation is going to be all about competitive gaming, because the gaming market is expanding, and a lot of people want to show off their accomplishments in games. Gamecube a distant 3rd? I beg to differ. The sales are close (only 1-2 million units apart) between Xbox and Gamecube, with PS2 way ahead, having more than half the market share.

PlayStation doesn't have the hardcore gamer appeal, Gamecube and Xbox do. If you look at MLG (Major League Gaming), their 2 professionally played games are Halo 2 (Xbox) and Super Smash Bros. Melee (Gamecube). Where's the PS2? I'll tell you, it's not there, because it's not a system that attracts hardcore gamers. Since this trend of brands will continue into the next generation, but hardcore gaming will be expanded, guess who comes out to be the loser.

]]> By: Jeff Davies http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/next-gen-consoles-a-numbers-game/#comment-58978 Jeff Davies Wed, 31 May 2006 05:29:20 +0000 #comment-58978 "10 million as the tipping point to gain retail traction". Well the Dreamcast sold more than this, as did the Nintendo 64 I beleive, as well as the first Xbox.<br /> My point is that getting to 10 million sales is not really relevant to ultimate success.<br /> The PSOne and PS2 have sold in excess of 100 million units each.<br /> The $399 cost of the Xbox360 is okay, but you also have to think about the $60 games.<br /> If the PS3 is noticably better, especially at HD than the Xbox360, then there is good leverage to get a PS3. Many people have already purchased HD TVs, and I'm guessing there will be large sales in the next few years. But what use is a HD TV without a HD medium to watch? (games and films) <br /> Sure there is a Sky HD channel, if you have Sky.<br /> The fact the PS3 has bluRay built-in means I think that PS3 plus HDTV will become a common option. The $599 for the PS3 is low in this context, after all the TV will cost you a lot more than that in itself.<br /> I think there is a lot of wishful thinking about the Xbox360. Personally I think it is too little too soon, as the Dreamcast was. A lot of people will wait to see what the deal is like when the PS3 arrives. If you go to the store in November and see the PS3 with HDTV blows away Xbox360, (for example even with BluRay films), then there will be a lot of sales.<br /> There is also the fact that there is massive PS3 content out there for sale and rental. This makes migration less painful. I sold my original Xbox to get a PS2, as the content (including things like Singstar and Eyetoy) is a lot better. I found Halo and Halo2 to be a far less interesting game than SOCOM seals (and the Halo earpeice is rubbish, whereas the SOCOM earpeice is very well built).<br /> So overall, I think the PS3 is still a very good bet. All will be far more certain in 7 months.<br /> I'm sure the Wii will have it's supporters, but it's mainly in the PS2 hardware zone in terms of performance, and without the vast array of titles. “10 million as the tipping point to gain retail traction”. Well the Dreamcast sold more than this, as did the Nintendo 64 I beleive, as well as the first Xbox.
My point is that getting to 10 million sales is not really relevant to ultimate success.
The PSOne and PS2 have sold in excess of 100 million units each.
The $399 cost of the Xbox360 is okay, but you also have to think about the $60 games.
If the PS3 is noticably better, especially at HD than the Xbox360, then there is good leverage to get a PS3. Many people have already purchased HD TVs, and I'm guessing there will be large sales in the next few years. But what use is a HD TV without a HD medium to watch? (games and films)
Sure there is a Sky HD channel, if you have Sky.
The fact the PS3 has bluRay built-in means I think that PS3 plus HDTV will become a common option. The $599 for the PS3 is low in this context, after all the TV will cost you a lot more than that in itself.
I think there is a lot of wishful thinking about the Xbox360. Personally I think it is too little too soon, as the Dreamcast was. A lot of people will wait to see what the deal is like when the PS3 arrives. If you go to the store in November and see the PS3 with HDTV blows away Xbox360, (for example even with BluRay films), then there will be a lot of sales.
There is also the fact that there is massive PS3 content out there for sale and rental. This makes migration less painful. I sold my original Xbox to get a PS2, as the content (including things like Singstar and Eyetoy) is a lot better. I found Halo and Halo2 to be a far less interesting game than SOCOM seals (and the Halo earpeice is rubbish, whereas the SOCOM earpeice is very well built).
So overall, I think the PS3 is still a very good bet. All will be far more certain in 7 months.
I'm sure the Wii will have it's supporters, but it's mainly in the PS2 hardware zone in terms of performance, and without the vast array of titles.

]]> By: Zanzzabar http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/next-gen-consoles-a-numbers-game/#comment-58977 Zanzzabar Tue, 30 May 2006 17:30:40 +0000 #comment-58977 Being a gamer well over 25+ years... I believe Ninendo will be the #1 console this generation (japan-wise, Sony #2), This will be the era of Microsofts newest X360 console.<br /> <br /> MS obviously has the games that most hardcore players prefer, while Sony's PS3 will have games that will target a younger teenage market. The biggest downfall for Sonys (very expensive?) PS3 is the lack of rumble feature it will no longer have.<br /> <br /> Force feedback will be lacking on the PS3 hardware, Nintendo and Microsoft currently have this, especially for racers, the PS3 will fall on this category.<br /> <br /> People will think twice about the lack of rumble feature the PS3 has, and will take the cheaper and innovative Nintendo and Microsofts system.<br /> <br /> Sony is desperate, and decides to steal Nintendos controller idea, this shows signs of desperation, and the lack of any good launch titles will cause trouble for Sonys console (especially at the high prices), and fans will yet again buy its competitors systems.<br /> <br /> MS 360 will have some killer apps by the time the PS3 launches and will surely put it to shame, the same goes for Nintendos really innovative Wii console in which will launch The Legend Of Zelda: Twilight Princess in 2 flavors (ahem), Zelda for gamecube and another version specific for the Wii.<br /> <br /> But, people will probably buy the PS3 based on the Sony name itself, but, we have seen this trend fall before with Nintendos Gamecube and N64 systems, which were not well recieved in the last previous 2 generations, but the SNES and NES before it were the systems to own.<br /> <br /> Can history repeat itself with Sony's PS3?<br /> The system is said to be more complex for developers compared to the 360 and the Wii..<br /> <br /> Will the PS3 actually be Sonys massive downfall? Especially with the Blue Ray technology (which is not a norm to own at the moment). Only time will tell which systems will own the new generation.<br /> <br /> I predicted and saw great things happen in the past, Sony is gambling on a high stakes poker game with 2 others, they seem to be sweating at the moment, its only a matter of time before they fold...<br /> Being a gamer well over 25+ years… I believe Ninendo will be the #1 console this generation (japan-wise, Sony #2), This will be the era of Microsofts newest X360 console.

MS obviously has the games that most hardcore players prefer, while Sony's PS3 will have games that will target a younger teenage market. The biggest downfall for Sonys (very expensive?) PS3 is the lack of rumble feature it will no longer have.

Force feedback will be lacking on the PS3 hardware, Nintendo and Microsoft currently have this, especially for racers, the PS3 will fall on this category.

People will think twice about the lack of rumble feature the PS3 has, and will take the cheaper and innovative Nintendo and Microsofts system.

Sony is desperate, and decides to steal Nintendos controller idea, this shows signs of desperation, and the lack of any good launch titles will cause trouble for Sonys console (especially at the high prices), and fans will yet again buy its competitors systems.

MS 360 will have some killer apps by the time the PS3 launches and will surely put it to shame, the same goes for Nintendos really innovative Wii console in which will launch The Legend Of Zelda: Twilight Princess in 2 flavors (ahem), Zelda for gamecube and another version specific for the Wii.

But, people will probably buy the PS3 based on the Sony name itself, but, we have seen this trend fall before with Nintendos Gamecube and N64 systems, which were not well recieved in the last previous 2 generations, but the SNES and NES before it were the systems to own.

Can history repeat itself with Sony's PS3?
The system is said to be more complex for developers compared to the 360 and the Wii..

Will the PS3 actually be Sonys massive downfall? Especially with the Blue Ray technology (which is not a norm to own at the moment). Only time will tell which systems will own the new generation.

I predicted and saw great things happen in the past, Sony is gambling on a high stakes poker game with 2 others, they seem to be sweating at the moment, its only a matter of time before they fold…

]]> By: Usama Ahmad http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/next-gen-consoles-a-numbers-game/#comment-58975 Usama Ahmad Tue, 30 May 2006 16:29:15 +0000 #comment-58975 So it seems everyone who has posted is a hardcore Sony PS fan. I am not a Nintendo fan boy but I only own one console, a Gamecube. I'm a college graduate, not some kid (ahem, gamedude), but the Gamecube has been good to me (in entertainment as well as in my wallet). So I know I'll be getting the Wii because of its price and its ability to play Wii, GC, N64, SNES and NES as well as other (rumored?) games. Of course there's the new controller too. I trust Nintendo to make fun games and to learn from their 3rd party related mistakes of the past.<br /> <br /> I'm sure the PS3 will sell, if not well then reasonably well. In fact I hope it does because I would really hate to see Sony take a hit in their gaming department, they certainly can't afford to since their other departments haven't been performing as expected. In addition I would hate to see the Blu-Ray format die; the cost of each game would increase but also it seems Blu-Ray is superior to HD-DVD in many ways. Although the cost of the machine is too much (in my opinion), the previous posts suggest Sony fans will not be bothered so much by the price. Still I think those same fans should at least be willing to admit that because of the pricing structure (both Sony's and its competitors) there will inevitably be some shift in Sony's market share, for the worse, WITHIN the next gen consoles. So it seems everyone who has posted is a hardcore Sony PS fan. I am not a Nintendo fan boy but I only own one console, a Gamecube. I'm a college graduate, not some kid (ahem, gamedude), but the Gamecube has been good to me (in entertainment as well as in my wallet). So I know I'll be getting the Wii because of its price and its ability to play Wii, GC, N64, SNES and NES as well as other (rumored?) games. Of course there's the new controller too. I trust Nintendo to make fun games and to learn from their 3rd party related mistakes of the past.

I'm sure the PS3 will sell, if not well then reasonably well. In fact I hope it does because I would really hate to see Sony take a hit in their gaming department, they certainly can't afford to since their other departments haven't been performing as expected. In addition I would hate to see the Blu-Ray format die; the cost of each game would increase but also it seems Blu-Ray is superior to HD-DVD in many ways. Although the cost of the machine is too much (in my opinion), the previous posts suggest Sony fans will not be bothered so much by the price. Still I think those same fans should at least be willing to admit that because of the pricing structure (both Sony's and its competitors) there will inevitably be some shift in Sony's market share, for the worse, WITHIN the next gen consoles.

]]> By: Zxceelxuz http://www.digitaltrends.com/talk-backs/next-gen-consoles-a-numbers-game/#comment-58976 Zxceelxuz Tue, 30 May 2006 16:12:40 +0000 #comment-58976 Ahaha. game dude has no idea what he is talking about. Every single person I know, be it girls who have never played before, to the few of my friends who are hardcore gamers, to me, to even my grandparents, they all want a Wii. Nintendo is a kids company? I hardly call the Resident Evil series for "kids". There are plenty of mature rated games for the Cube, you just don't hear as much about them because those who own the Cube are too busy having a good time with games like Mario Party. You know, having some FUN. I don't need photo realistic graphics, GTA and Final Fantasy to fulfill all my gaming needs if I can get Metroid Prime and Zelda and all the unique third party titles in development for Wii. You can't seriously tell me you don't wanna try Madden with an actual throwing motion over smashing some buttons. <br /> <br /> One last thing: Look at the DS. Outselling PSP 7 to 1. And market research shows the majority of DS units being sold are now going to *gasp* ADULTS. You know, those that are older than kids? Could it be... Nintendo is not really a kid company but one who's games appear to be childish to those of you obsessed with blowing every thing up and acting all ghetto. Ahaha. game dude has no idea what he is talking about. Every single person I know, be it girls who have never played before, to the few of my friends who are hardcore gamers, to me, to even my grandparents, they all want a Wii. Nintendo is a kids company? I hardly call the Resident Evil series for “kids”. There are plenty of mature rated games for the Cube, you just don't hear as much about them because those who own the Cube are too busy having a good time with games like Mario Party. You know, having some FUN. I don't need photo realistic graphics, GTA and Final Fantasy to fulfill all my gaming needs if I can get Metroid Prime and Zelda and all the unique third party titles in development for Wii. You can't seriously tell me you don't wanna try Madden with an actual throwing motion over smashing some buttons.

One last thing: Look at the DS. Outselling PSP 7 to 1. And market research shows the majority of DS units being sold are now going to *gasp* ADULTS. You know, those that are older than kids? Could it be… Nintendo is not really a kid company but one who's games appear to be childish to those of you obsessed with blowing every thing up and acting all ghetto.

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