Last week, the Senate quietly voted in favor of the bill H.R. 1540, the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for Fiscal Year 2012. The bill includes controversial new language that could in theory allow the military to detain and arrest anyone in the world, including American citizens on American soil, and then be indefinitely detained without trial. Now Anonymous has warned the Senate that it can “expect us.”
Although the United States Congress has made far more headlines this year through what it hasn’t done rather than what it has, there is a new controversy brewing in Washington over the NDAA’s new provision. The NDAA is a bill that comes up for review annually, and is generally passed without much issue to make sure that the military continues to receive necessary funds. It is occasionally debated in the House and Senate, but rarely faces much serious opposition before being approved at the end of each year, as it has been for the last 48 years. This year’s act was no different, and it was pushed through the Senate, passing with bi-partisan support and a 93-7 vote tally.
Included in the bill though was a controversial new amendment found in Section 1031 of the bill, which increases the military’s scope in combating terrorism.
The changes allow the military to arrest and indefinitely detain anyone, anywhere that is deemed a potential terror suspect. Many terror suspects are already subject to this provision and make up the Guantanamo Bay residents, but the troubling issue is with the language, which allows arrests anywhere in the world—including the United States.
Opponents of the new language claim that this is the first step towards tyranny as—in theory—the president could potentially deem anyone a possible terrorist, and have them arrested and held without a trial for the rest of their lives. Senator Mark Udall (D-Co.) attempted to introduce an amendment that would have changed the wording and allowed for a Congressional review of the detention power, but the amendment was voted down before the bill was passed.
Now, it might seem paranoid to think that a President would abuse that power to send soldiers into American homes to arrest people, then hold them without trial, but many point to the poisonous atmosphere in Washington and claim that some of the more recent heated vitriol on both sides of the political spectrum, from the Occupy protesters to the Tea Party members has grown to the point that the potential for abuse far outweighs the merits of the plan, and that is a chilling prospect.
There is also the legal question of whether or not this bill would supersede the Posse Comitatus Act, which prohibits U.S. soldiers being used to enforce laws on American soil, but that law has provisions for exceptions to be made in order to maintain standards of law and order–as long as the orders come from the United States Congress. AS this law is also a work of the Congress, it creates a gray areas that would almost certainly be challenged in court, but not before it was first enacted and arrests on American soils were made.
Add in the massive vocal opposition to the plan, from both constituents and top security officials that denounced the bill including: Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, CIA Director David Petraeus, FBI Director Robert Mueller, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and many more, all of which the Senate ignored, and it is hard to not be at least understand peoples’ concern for this new provision.
The President has discussed vetoing the bill unless the language is changed, and it is now in a closed door session before it will head to the White House. Anonymous, however, is not taking the matter lightly. Earlier this week, the hacktivist group released the video “Anonymous – Message to the American People” on YouTube, in which a fabricated voice went over the group’s objections to the bill, then signed off by stating “U.S. Senate, expect us.”
This is far from the first time Anonymous has issued political messages, but it is the biggest target the group has focused on. Earlier this year the group released a similar message for the Federal Reserve, a group Anonymous has also had issue with.
Of course, when it comes to Anonymous, it is difficult to know what is part of the concerted effort, and what is simply a person or people attempting to utilize the group’s notoriety to put out their own message. And if it is a group that can claim ties to the original—or just a group that can effectively act in the same way—taking on the U.S. Senate is at best a risky proposition.
No details on what or how Anonymous planned to go after the Senate, but in 2008 the group made headlines for hacking, then releasing many of Sarah Palin’s email. With election year coming up, perhaps it is time for Senators to change their passwords.
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Dean Evan. You’re really not very informed on the way the world works are you?
Um… hello… Libya. Iraq. Egypt. China. I’m sure the soldiers in those countries weren’t mindless drones either but things like money or threats against one’s self or one’s family etc. are motivation enough for people to overcome their dislike for the orders they’re being given.
You never heard about The Kent State shootings? I.e. The shooting of unarmed college students by members of the Ohio National Guard on Monday, May 4, 1970. The guardsmen fired 67 rounds over a period of 13 seconds, killing four students and wounding nine others.
What’s that you were saying Dean? Get a clue about human nature numbskull before you post ill-informed comments.
Imagine if Michelle Bachmann was president and had this kind of power. Could an abortion doctor be considered a terrorist? The far right is already bordering on insane, giving them this kinda power scares the s*@t outta me.
Oh gosh, ikr? At this point I’m kind of hoping that support gets split between her and Rick Perry then some not/less crazy person gets in…
The problem with this law isn’t the military, its the way it could get abused. Imagine if Nixon had this power and were in office in today’s climate.
The problem with this law is the vagueness about who is a combatant. A presidnet could say a fringe political leader is tied to a militia, and the military would arrest him–thinking they were doing the right thing and getting rid of a terrorist. The guy could scream his innocence, but without a trial, no one would hear it.
I think you’re right to a degree though. If someont tried to use this against a group like Occupy Wall street, both the media dn the military would object and stop it. the military dos its job, and if they get orders from someone in power abusing that power, there is no way they could know.
Sorry but don’t think for a second that they won’t do what they are paid and trained to do. Think they’ll get killed or jail time for us? No.
heh, I know plenty of military guys… Plenty of Spec Ops guys as well. It really depends on the branch and section you are talking about. CIA Black Ops, you better believe they will do what they are told without question. Army Rangers, Navy SEALs, other SOCOM guys, depends on the individual, but most would. Regular grunts are more likely to disobey an order to fire on their own people, but then again, it really all depends. These are from my personal interactions with military personnel, which is a daily occurrence. I would be more than willing to bet that you are accurate in your assumption that they would have no problem rolling into a town with a tank and setting up Martial law. Good thing I know how to handle myself in those kinds of situations. ;)
“Of course, when it comes to Anonymous, it is difficult to know what is part of the concerted effort, and what is simply a person or people attempting to utilize the group’s notoriety to put out their own message.” You can BET this was the whold anonymous organization, probably unanimous in this.
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You know what most people who think like you don’t understand? It’s the simple fact that it is legal to do so is what the problem is. You think very short term. It doesn’t matter how highly unlikely it is that the military would start patrolling the streets today. But as far as I know, you are not psychic, and can’t see the future. How do you know it wouldn’t be possible in 100, 200, 300 years? By then, I’m sure our military would be more automated, and yes, they would be mindless robots. So in order to protect our rights, and freedoms in the future. You have to start today.
Just like people who think no one should own guns. When someone asks me why, I say “in case of the government getting out of control” They look at me and laugh, as if it could never happen in this country. I am thinking about my kids, and their kids, and their kids. Not in the present state of affairs.
Open up your mind, and think outside of the box. Otherwise, you are just a mouthpiece to what they want you to believe.
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if 4chan says it it’s false. They’re nothing but a bunch of wanna-be terrorists and hate-mongers. They consider themselves to be a powerful force but at the same time hide behind a mask of a failed terrorist (Guy Fawkes/”V for vendetta guy”) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes
Once again, I’d like to re-iterate how retarded every single person is who frequents /b/
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