Samsung’s Latest Flip Phone + New York Times Location Tracking Expose | Digital Trends Live 12.19.19

On the show today: Leaked images of Samsung’s latest foldable flip phone; Facebook acquired a cloud gaming company; Boeing to launch its Starliner spacecraft tomorrow from Cape Canaveral…


the phone is actually a top notch phone. Yeah, I think as long as this is like in the same price range is just like current, like existing flagship phones. It'll be fun. Yeah, it'll do. Well, well, we'll have to see what happens with that. We've got some details at digital trends dot com. You could take a look at what we've found out so far and kind of extrapolate a little bit of information from what we think might happen with that continuing on with some trending news topics. Let's talk about this. Let's talk about some space travel So Boeing is going to be testing their Starliner craft for the first time, and that's gonna be happening. Actually, it's scheduled for 6:30 a.m. Pacific on Friday. So this is coming up tomorrow based on right now where they're gonna be testing out. There's and Boeing's one that I feel like there's such a huge force in aerospace technology. But Space six and and, um, blue origin. They've kind of gotten a lot of the press on this, but Boeing is certainly right. They're partnering with NASA and and this is what we're gonna be seeing is their test. It's kind of funny. It's like it's almost like it took Space six and blue origin to remind us that Rocket launches air Awesome. Yeah, um, because this kind of stuff happens all the time in the past, but like it was televised on YouTube. So I think it took them blazing some trail and being like, we're just gonna live stream it. And then Boeing was like, Well, maybe we should start doing the to get us some of that live streaming, I think. I mean, really, I think it's it's honestly, it's throwing a Tesla into space with the dummy in it. Yang space oddity. That's it. That's that's what fired it up. Yeah, I got everybody excited again. There worked for me because I want to watch this because it's just it's exciting stuff. So this is the one where eventually they'll be faring astronauts to and from the International Space Station. This is supposed to actually go up there, and it's bringing up some experience experiments right now. I mean, nobody's on board it. They're not sending anybody up in the thing yet, but they do have a lot of different things that are going up some different experiments for a bunch of different companies. And this could also open up that what they're talking about a lot is opening this up more for commercial endeavors as well. So you get cos they said Anheuser Busch may be paying them for something. You've got space beer, space beer. Exactly the space beer. I mean, I drink a space beer home, and I'm not gonna line they would get me on that one. But that's what they're That's what they're talking about. It's just for the funding in this increasing crossover of commercial space endeavors with actual national scientific. It I'm sure that'll bring the money in for sure. Oh, yeah, you know, I mean, like you said right there like you are, you're a hot spot for marketing terms today, Bendy in space beard. I mean, this is, you know, marketing 101 withdrew Prindle. Right now you're selling me anyway, I'm your target market s o Another thing. It's going to go up with something called Rosie. The astronauts, they do have their own. Ah, dummy. That's gonna be going up there. And Rosie, the astronaut is gonna be have a bunch of different tests on on the on the dummy itself. So that will be able to test different strains. And they said the the school neck and spine that test the G force. Oh, so it's like it's like fully a crashed has, dummy, fully a crash test, but for space for our first crash landing back down in the ocean. Yep. Oh, my. Yeah, so? So you got your own crash test, dummy. That's gonna be up there. It's pretty important stuff, too. No, I guess it is. Yeah. I gotta send somebody up. I mean, I would at least want to know that you can bring me back down with right turning, but with boobs, right? All right. You're next. You know, that's not something that I'm gonna dio, eh? So that's what we're looking at with that. So, again, that's the big launch that is happening tomorrow. So we'll keep you all up to date on that. You can read about a lot more about it at digital trends dot com. As far as everything that they're gonna be doing on there in the different experiments right there. Like I said, it's an onslaught of tech news. We're just keeping keeping on going here. I do have this. This'll do with Facebook and some news about Facebook possibly getting into this club gaming thing. So Facebook has bought a company that does do cloud giving. It's a actually Spanish company called Play Giga and the theory here. The thought behind this is that they want to get in the game to compete with Google stadia and any other cloud giving service. Is that air coming out? We all know if you well, maybe you don't. But if you follow along, Google stadia hasn't had the smoothest roll out so far. It's It's not gone quite according to plan for them. So I think I feel like that's put a little bit of a stutter in cloud gaming. But it is something that's that's probably why Facebook was like, Well, maybe we should get in there. Yeah, it was not enough to Maybe we could do it. And that's one of those things where you know you've got Apple with their apple RK, which isn't really quite the same thing. But I feel like every tech company is trying to figure out right now. Look, there's so many billions of dollars in gaming. How do we How do we get a piece of that? That's what Facebook I feel like. I feel like they just need to stay in their lane, man. Facebook never does. God, I guess they, you know, they bought Oculus and ah, Oculus has been doing good stuff. So I guess I have a little bit of hope just based on what they've done there. That's true. Yeah. I mean, we'll have to see where it goes. So they do. Have the Facebook gaming team posted about it saying that they're not gonna comment on it at this time, which is a comment in its own right. But they paid Ah, it was $78 million is what they paid for this. So it's a European based startup. I mean, good for that company. 78 million bucks. They paid for this. They must mean, you know, I know for Facebook. That's not That's like they make that in, like, a day and 1/2 right? Yeah. I mean, I guess that that is true. You gotta put it in that context. But still, that's Ah, that's a move toward that market. so we'll have to see what comes of that. But it's it's trending story right now, just about cloud gaming. And again we're live. I want to know what you think about that. Tell us. Tell us about your thoughts on that aspect of it. Let's see continuing on here. We do have a couple of things actually gonna talk about this. Then we've got some breaking news. It's just happening right now. This is, well, not the biggest news in the world. But I thought it was interesting. It has to do with an Alexa function that is designed to help you navigate the holidays, in particular those family fights. So this is what it is. It's a skill that came out where Amazon actually did a study. And they said that, um I don't know how exactly the study work, but this is what their results were. Where that they said that most most arguments around the holiday happened at 6:30 p.m. On December 25th. How did they know that? I think they're saying that Yeah, exactly. How do they know that? That's a hard thing that's oddly specific. I don't have the hard data behind what they said, All right, just what they said it was. So I'm guessing, you know, maybe it's after dinner. Everybody's had a couple of cocktails. Maybe, you know, the weird uncles, like, ready don't know politics. And, you know, politics inevitably gets brought up. And especially this year Oh, boy, there's gonna be a lot of political funding and doozy. So what they're saying is that now, if it starts to get starts to get awkward, you could just say and I'm applauded as anybody. I'm just going to say it. So if you do have an echo device, Alexa, change the subject and then she'll start throwing out random things to talk about. They used examples like Is die hard a Christmas movie? What would your superpower be? And why on Barry is things that are supposed to not cause fights, Although I feel like the die Hard won my cousin fight anyway, Um, that's what That's what. What a spineless way to divert the conversation, to ask Alexis into this subject for you that's just asked the person who's talking about the subject. You Hey, why don't you change the subject? No, no, we can't have direct communication like that anymore, Drew, I say what I feel needs to be, and then I don't want to hear anything else. And then I want Alexis. Okay? Yes. That's exactly how How all this technology 2019 way. Yeah. Don't, Doctor. Hey, everybody else over each other. All right, That that is what I think. That that's gonna be fun, though. Like, I'm gonna do that in, like, really inappropriate time just to tell people that I'm, like, bored with what they're saying. Somebody we know have really had just a great year And the kids have been doing really good. I'm just really excited about how you know little Johnny's been really that you school and you grow your own Asparagus is yes, fascinating. Let's change the subject. I like this idea. Oh, man. All right, Speed updating the subject. Let's go to this. We do have some breaking news. So this is something that actually is just rolling out right now. And this is a report that's coming out that more than 3000 ring users, passwords and credit card information were leaked online, potentially giving hackers access to people's addresses in camera footage. So we know that there's been a lot of news about hacks on ring cameras. This has been a rough week for Rig. It's a rough week. On the fourth day in a row, they've been in the news, and I think three of those four were bad things. Yeah, and a lot of what they said is, you know, well, you need Thio enable to factor authentication like this is the user's fault. That's why it was, you know, it was hacked in Africa. That's what he said. Basically. I mean, I'm I'm paraphrasing, so I'm not saying that's an official ring statement. But that's essentially out of your vote. Yeah, And now with this news. So this is coming from a C. Buzzfeed news first reported this So again, I'm just reporting what it is. They're saying that the personal information was left exposed gay potential intruders access to their home addresses. You have a credit card information in footage from ring cameras at the home, so it doesn't necessarily say you could access it directly. You just see the old footage, but I'm gonna guess there's work around in there as well. So that's, um, that's big as somebody who has ring cameras at home. Now I'm waiting to see if I was part of this. That's only 3000. Sorry that houses that just like the minimum. They're like it could be a lot more. It's hard to say. So that's you again, since it's just coming out right now, Um, we'll have to see where where it all goes from this. And I don't I haven't seen anything yet. As a response from Ring. It's breaking news. Yeah, but that's that's what they're reporting. I mean, uh, over three thousands, actually, 3 3672 So that's apparently happening again. Weirdly specific, Merely specific number. But honestly, like glass half full. I'm think I'm looking at 3000 going those air rookie numbers, man, you you got to get up to Equifax numbers before you start worrying this attention to that 3000. Come on. But really like that. It's great that it's that small. Yeah, yeah, so that we'll have to see. I mean, this could change too, you know, that's just what's being reported right now. Maybe there's more. That is part of it. No, Sorry. We forgot, Like six zeros. Yeah, whoops. Yeah, it was all of you. That's that's what we're hearing. So we'll have that updated. Actually, we're reading it up. Where? Maybe it already up a digital trends dot com right now, just all the details on that. So we'll keep you up to date with that as we go through the day, and I'm sure there's gonna be a lot more that comes out about that. All right, one final news topic here that we're just hitting before we go to our quick break. I just want to bring this up. The announced the list of the highest paid YouTube stars today, and it's kids, just in case you weren't depressed enough here, look at how rich these kids are by putting videos on the Internet. Yep, if you're questioning your life, choices are unsure. Maybe feeling good about yourself for a minute. Don't forget that American Ryan Kaji is the highest paid YouTuber for 2019 and that is a kid is an eight year old. Is he the one who reviews toys? Yep, it's an eight year old. Wasn't he the one who was the richest of last year's? Well, one of the biggest, like I just remember hearing about this kid before. I think I buried that deep down after Masters made $26 million in 2019. When asked why he thought people were were why I was so popular, he said, I'm entertaining and funny. So that is what well adjusted a dozen men's words. Either $26 million there, we'll we'll be doing really before we move on, though I am super curious, like we've seen what happens to like a regular child stars. Yeah, what happens to YouTube, child? And is this gonna be like, Well, you're exiting that one book? I mean, not it's $26 million. If they manage, that money will be just fine. But what happens if you know you get your account cut off? I mean, that's the power of Google right there. They could just go. You hit rock bottom real fast. Yeah. I mean, where do you go? Think about that, Ryan. All right, let's think. Let's go to a break. We have a lot to cover today. A lot to talk about, but coming up next, we take a look at some comments that air training across the Internet and maybe some that you posted as well. Another edition of Reading the Week. So stick around back in a minute with more general trends live. Welcome back to digital trends. Live again. Thank you for joining us. We are broadcasting live and we do read the comments that come through and we'll talk about some comments right now because I read it and weep is one of our favorite subjects. Hear the show? I'm Greg Miller. He withdrew Prindle. Hello, Drew. Drew, Are you prepared? I read some Internet. Never prepared. No, we're not. That's why that's part of the fun of this. We just have to react as they as they come at us. So we're gonna talk about probably some trending things that are happening. We don't see the matter time either. So we're just reading along with what the comments are as we go through. There we go. Malcolm on YouTube regarding the meat, the icon, a five, a high tech airplane and fly. The intro was so ridiculous, I couldn't waste my time to watch it. One. It's not a flying car. And two, you think learning to fly as easy or simple. You simply I don't know anything. This is a personal attack, Like a year ago or something like that. You took out. I'm like the Columbia River. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was sweet. And like, Yes, he's correct. It's a plane and not a flying car. But like, that was the point of it. It was like, It's so easy that you don't really need to have a pilot's license. It's more like driving in cars like the Tesla of air vehicles, which, if he had watched the video, probably would have understood when it had meant. But I love that the hitcher was so ridiculous. I couldn't waste my time yet. Have the time to write out this cm it with Not only that, you know, putting out his points one, It's not a flying car. And two, if you think learning flat. Yeah, I love I like this. He did watch it. What do you mean he didn't make it past the intro? You clearly saw the whole thing. You're calling Malcolm out right there? Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, Malcolm, there you go. Change the subject. All right. Uh, it's gonna be a techno kado had ff. Now come on. I know the GOP is mad about the impeachment, but this is a step too far. Hayden on Wakanda. Where am I going to get my Bring him now. OK, this is an actual report where we was the U S d. A. Had Wauconda listed as one of their potential trade partners. He was listed as a country. You don't with all the other real countries. What condo was in there and they just took it off. But somebody already caught it. And so now it's blood. That's fantastic. Whoever whatever government employees snuck, that is not getting what conduct. Yeah, well, condom forever. Let's talk over here, though. I mean, it matters to you, but that is class a trolling. And I appreciate that tremendously. Oh, yeah, for that d'oh minutes. We're going inside a Bitcoin mind earned $70,000 a day. I call it bitter coin. Solid, solid. Already came and gone is a bad fashion accessory for the taker is electric bills need to be paid with real coins Now. All right, so this is another Another video that I did we went to Ah, huge. I think at the time it was one of the biggest Bitcoin mining operations in North America was in Ah, When natural Washington, of all places. Yeah, because electricity's cheap. They have a date. Okay, but we made the video, like, at the end of 2018 like right before the Bitcoin crash happened. So I'm assuming that this, uh, this case, this comment came in after Bitcoin just plummeted and everybody I lost a lot of money. Okay, that could be it. But the thing is, it's rebounded. And those people are probably just swimming in cash again. They've been building more facilities ever since then. So, yeah, they're still loaded. I mean, 70 grand a day. Yeah, that was That was that. That was just with that one facility. They've built a 2nd 1 How big was the facility? I think it was Ah, like a 10. Mega water. Something like that. Okay. Like a giant warehouse. Basically, Yeah. Yeah, I'll ring it. Man, I gotta get into that game. All right. Better coin, though. That's still That was solid, Tommy. What am I looking at? Is Gary, But watching the trailer for cats, the movie just reminds me of certain names. Okay, That is the Nic Cage Cat me. Oh, God, did the very famous do it like a deep fake face blend. You've never gone down diet with age deep fix. I have not. Oh, it's incredible. It's a whole world that's opening up for you after this show, I would. Highly business is what the Internet is for. The Internet is for Nicholas Cage. I mean, there's a There's an entire section devoted just and so they mix his face with, like, cat stuff like from like the movie Cats, that because they already had human faces that would, Oh, man, that one was a real cat. But yes, that I believe also with cats, the movie. So it's all things that are happening on here. See, look at that online hydrated design. We gotta Elon Musk presents the new test. This cyber trick lunch. I can see his mom in the crowd giving him a thumbs up. No, that's I mean, that's a super wholesome comment. That's great. Yes, it was. What are you doing on YouTube? Um, yeah, I think that's a good garbage. That's solid. Loans must. Mom is pretty sweet. Yeah, May musk. She was She was huge. I think she had a She had her own, like, makeup line or something like that. Back in the day, like she was, she was super cool. I read an article about, uh, like, a year ago. I don't remember the details, but I remember things. Yeah, well, lady, I can already see the perfume commercial, like, all new from a musk. All right, Howard Bowers. You won't hire me. Ah, the gift is incredibly relevant today. The rise of Skywalker and hash tag cats. The movie. It is true. It's the rise of Skywalker Day and cats. The movie drew. Which side are you? What side do you e? I guess Star Wars? Yeah. And it's also sitting at, like, 15% on rotten tomatoes. Yeah, it's a very, very disturbing one. On one review that I took the time to read it basically said that it was too horny for its own good, which is not what I wanted to read it. It's not move. Anybody wants to read? That is Oh, my God, Get worse. I think I'll pass, like even with everybody says Star Wars sucks like wasn't crazy fun of the previous ones. Whatever it seems like it will probably be on Park. It's a Star Wars movie. It'll be fun. It'll be a Disney movie. Exactly. Yeah, though, um, never challenged Matt Katz about Cats. The movie Hey, had to eat his words. He was coming out swinging, thinking that was gonna be the blockbuster of the year. Oh, take out everything. Still doubling down over the lifetime of what it is, I believe he said $500 million is what he thinks I'm gonna make internationally. He'll eat those words. Yeah, there's some money riding on that, All right, We need to get to a breakthrough because we have so much to cover today. And we do appreciate every who's watching live. Drew, thank you was always fun. That was just the 1st 25 minutes of this way. Have so much more coming up here to talk about. And that's why we appreciate embodies joining us so up next. Actually, we have Greg all good. Who's going to join us? He's the vice president of water for world vision to talk about bringing clean water to the developing world and using technology do that. We're gonna talk about the issues that they're facing and some of the ways that they're combating that actually solving some of those issues. So very exciting conversation. If you are watching live, uh, drop in, give us your comments as we go throughout, the show will be back in a minute with more digital trends. Hello. This is digital trends live. And thanks for joining us for life here every weekday at 90 in Pacific Noon Eastern. So hit that subscribe button, Get the notifications. When we do go, I've and I'm Greg Nibbler, and we love talking about technology that is helping people out in ways we can use tech to improve lives. We're gonna discuss that in part and more right now. We have Greg Hawgood, who is the vice president of Water for World Vision, joining us right now. Thanks so much for joining us. My pleasure, Greg. Thanks for having me. I love the title, and I do want to talk about that a little bit as well, but to give everybody just an overview, Can you talk about what world vision is? As a company? Yeah. World business. The largest Christian Relief development organization on the planet s. So we have we working about 100 countries with about 35,000 staff, and we're very local. So most of our staff lives and works in the community that we serve. We do a lot of different things. Child sponsorship, education, help, but almost always in the committee that we work in the developing world, we provide clean water, sanitation, hygiene. There's a huge need for this because nearly 1000 kids die every day. For something as simple as the lack of clean water, that is a staggering statistic. I mean, it's one of those things where I feel like a lot of us kind of take it for granted or we understand, you know, that maybe there's some issues with water, but you don't think about it in that context. In 1000 Children are dying because of you because of the lack of access to water. So one out of every 10 people on the planet still don't have access to clean water. They're having that to gather water from ditches and open wells and streams. There. They're full of bacteria, viruses and parasites, and the biggest tragedy is this is something we can address. We have the technology to do this, but we're bringing new game changing innovation to duty. So looking at it from what has been done up to now with with the new technology, what have we been doing before? And what's changing now with access to different technology well in the past, world is, and other groups are working the developing world to provide water access would focus on drilling a bore hole with the drilling rig and then putting in a hand pump that would nicely service a couple 100 people. But now we're bringing solar technology through partnerships to this endeavor, never reaching millions of people. In fact, Worldvision now reaches one new person with clean water every 10 seconds a person every 10 seconds, and we bring in this solar power technology, we're able to make the work even more sustainable and cost effective. So were we have a plan to reach a couple 1,000,000 people within a couple within a couple of your period with solar powered clean water technology, can you walk through what the solar power technology does? So you mentioned before it was hand pumps, which is pretty self explanatory. Somebody's actually pumping the water up so using solar solar power. What does that change in that process? So we still have a drilling rig that did that digs a bore hole. But then, instead of putting on a hand pump, we put in a Submersible pump by parting with a company called Grunt Boss, the leading provider Submersible pumps in the world. Then we power that Submersible pump with an overhead array of solar panels. They used the energy the sun to pull the water up into an overhead storage tank and in the water flows about the community through kiosks directly into the health care facilities and directly into the schools. And now we brought mobile phone technology so people can have an automated water kiosk. They load credits, credits own to a water credit card, and it can use it to get water 24 7 And we've seen that this new technology of using these water kiosk is allowed for better feed collection so that the water that we provide is more sustainable because there's water available for the community to use if there's repairs needed or for ongoing maintenance. It's really revolutionary, and it's something that we're doing at a very large scale. Now that is, Yeah, that is an interesting way. I've never actually heard of something that so. It's almost like it's an A T M for water. You can go up any time and be like any more water and use that card. They were showcased in there. Yeah, it's more sustainable. 24 hour service and better feet collection. Usually you have an attendant that would collect the fees. Some comes. You don't get us much feet collection. I call this the mother in law effect, because if your mother in law shows up, you're supposed to charge or even a small fee and may be reluctant to do that. But with this automated kiosks, everyone starts except the most vulnerable people in the community. We pre love credits on their cards so that they can get the water at a big discount or even for free, and that's an important part of that sustainability. I would imagine the fee collection on maintaining this and making it a sustainable operation to provide that water Exactly. We have a water committee that's in charge of ownership of the War committee. Local people are in charge. There's always women on the water committee because we found that that's the most likely success factor in long term sustainability. They charge it's small fees. The money's available for repairs and break down and clean water changes everything at a community. It not only changes health, but kids are hauling water so they can go to school and changes nutrition, because now you can grow more nutritious foods. So this is a wonderful partnership we have with run fast on other partners toe really lead the way in solving the global water prices. So right now with this with this kind of attack with these different plants in this partnership that you have with ground, Foster believes what, what? The name was just to get that right eso Where you at right now with those and how do you see this expanding? Going forward? So World vision is, I mentioned reaches one new person with clean water every 20 seconds were the leading non governmental provider of clean drinking model of the planet. We've said ago toe work ourselves out of business to reach everybody everywhere. We work by 2030 and we said our interim gold by 2020 to reach 20 million people. We set this four years ago and we're right on track. We reached about 16 million people with clean water and is through these game changing innovations and the support of our donors and partners. They were able to make this big of a difference. Well, I thought we decided to provide clean drinking water in an entire country. Within five years. We picked Rwanda. It means reaching a 1,000,000. People were two years in, and we're right on track. So we're gonna prove, Do we can finish the job in an entire country And imagine how that will change international velvet by proving that we can get the job done providing clean water to everybody in Rwanda. Yes, by 2022. That's that's an incredible goal and amazing accomplishment. If that can come through. I mean, that's fantastic. Reaching so many people. And that is it's one of those things where we like to take a look at how technology can help people out. And this is a perfect example of using modern technology to to reach people. For people who want to know more about world vision and what you're doing and about, you know, about helping build gain water and also about the technology. Where would we direct them? You could goto worldvision dot or Americans really responded. This offer we have for Rwanda. We announced that just 20 months ago, and in 20 months we've raised $20 million. We still the gap of eight and 1/2 $1,000,000 to raise. When we do that, it'll be a surety that we can provide clean drinking water to everybody everywhere we work in Rwanda. Well, Dr Greg Hoggatt, thank you so much for joining us to talk about this and and sharing the information about what you're doing. It's inspiring to know, you know, that you're tackling these problems, also daunting to realize how big the problem is. But it's great to know that it is is being tackled. So thank you so much for being here in digital trends live. Thank you, Greg. So there we go. We'd like to talk about technology and how it's being used. Thio help change things, and that is a great example. We talk a lot about tech on all angles. Whether you know, it could be used for good. It could be used for bad We talked to cover all different sides on that, but I was definitely something. That's an innovation that's helping people out. That's great to talk about. All right, we have more coming up on the show today. Ah, lot to cover on this episode. So much fun stuff. We're broadcasting live. So we take your comments questions as we go through. Up next we have Mr Caleb Dennison is gonna join us, and he's gonna be talking about eight K televisions 8k content. How much should we really be concerned with it? What is actual eight k? He's gonna walk it through for us because it's a lot of confusion out there. If you have comments about eight K and I know you, D'oh, drop those in whatever platform you are watching on our way back here a minute with more general trends live. Welcome back to digital trends live. I'm Greg Miller. Thanks for joining us. We like to keep you up to date on everything that's going on in technology and even the stuff that's coming up a little bit now, but a lot more in the future. And that's what we're gonna discuss right now. I know wherever you are. You have opinions on eight. Kate. We see them. We read them. I know everybody's got one. So we want to see those right now. And let's talk about 8k content 8k televisions and whatever else this gentleman wants to bring up. It's Carol Dennison. Caleb. Good morning. Good morning. I had quite the travel day yesterday. You did? Indeed. I don't want to get too deep into what happened. But the reason I was traveling was because I was visiting a TV manufacturer. Okay. And seeing what is gonna be coming out at CS in just a couple of weeks. Yeah. Um, and, uh, I can say I can say this. There's a lot I can't say. What I can say is that there's gonna be a whole mess of eight K going on at CS 2020. And this is why it's good to know this because really, a C s started a while ago for everybody who's in. I'm in it. You're in a Vegas already? Yeah. He's flying all over. Take a look at some of these things and you know there's embargo, so we can't say what what he saw, but letting you know, ahead of time for the Consumer Electronics Show. This is what we're kind of getting in an idea of. So eight K is going to be big deal. Yes, yes, even bigger than last year. And, you know, if we were right, rewind to win four K first came out. It took about seven years from when they introduced it like the 1st 4 K TV to the point where, like every TV is for K now, right? Like you go buy a TV and you're buying a fork, a TV It's just the new normal. Nobody cares whether it was necessary or whatever. That's just where the right fractures decided to go, and that's where we are now. Same thing is happening with a k A. The manufacturers are leading with the eight K TV so that content creators have something to put on them when they get around to it. So this will be kind of year two for eight came, and I think the the acceleration, our adoption is gonna be a little bit faster this time. So maybe in five years we're all just gonna be by an 8k TVs. That's my prediction in five years. Five instead of seven is empathy. But here's the problem. Ah, folks, you're about to get really confused unless you listen to me carefully here and let me help you not get confused because you're gonna start seeing and hearing about quote unquote riel eight k. Okay, I know. It's like five g, no more knots. I know what it's not. It's not all that dissimilar, to be honest with you. So here's the thing. There is such a thing called contrast modulation. Right. And that is, if you take a TV and pixel by pixel, you put a black pixel next to a white pixel. Okay, you can measure how distinguishable the black pixel is fromthe white pixel. Now on an old lead television which can independently turn each pixel on and off. It's really high. It's like in the 90 percentile. Okay, which is really great. Um, if you look at certain brands of led LCD TVs, that figure could be much lower anywhere from, like 56% down to, like, 13% where you really can't effect. I think we have a graphic. We can show an O led TV right next to an led TV. This is basically under a microscope. Now, on the right, you can see very clearly there are black combs and white columns, and you can see the very distinct amount of space between them on the left. Not so much. Yeah, so on the left is really poor contrast. Modulation on the right is really great contrast modulation. And what's the K on the's? Do we know this is a K? This is a This is an eight K panel, right? One right next to one another. Now L. G is the one thumping the rial 8k thing. And there there's which is on the right. That's the lead, obviously, has a very high contrast modulation value, and they say that that's critical for getting proper eight K resolution. And there are some industry standards out there that agree with LG right now. And so they are on the road right now. Thumping big time really ate cake. Now, mostly, it's been behind closed doors. It's been, you know, help held to like an industry conversation and not so much put out in the public. But, uh, they have already sort of branded their 2028 k TVs as riel eight k, which by its its own suggestion, says that there's like, not relate K t. V and so well, what happens when you have Ah, not really 8k TV. Well, basically, they're saying that those lower contrast modulations ones where the white pixels from the black pixels not so well distinguish those air, not relate K TVs. But I gotta push back a little bit because this whole contrast modulation thing is not the whole story. Like there's other stuff going on, like color volume. And plus the reason the contrast modulation on that particular display that we saw was so low is because it was on a Samsung TV, and they have this really great anti glare filter, and they have this really great wide angle filter. That means the picture quality is better for more people in the home. Um, and when you're looking at just real everyday content, you know, it looks pretty good. And in fact, Samsung did stack their TV next to an LG TV and put some text on it Really tiny, tiny, tiny text on a big ass TV Excuse my language and, uh, and it would detect was a little bit more clear on Samsung's TV in that particular test. Now, look, I can't verify or deny any of this testing stuff for me. I'm I'm just seeing it from a distance right now. I'll get to testing this stuff in 2020 and we'll see what's what. But I just want to let people know that this whole thing about Riel 8k it's gonna be part of the conversation pretty soon. And that's I mean, this is why it's important to know that this is something that we're all gonna be seeing. So really ate que versus just eight K. I guess so. It's a kind of marketing I think LG is gonna quantify as an actual thing. I think they're gonna use it as a marketing term. They're kind of weaponizing it a little bit because we know that LG and and, uh, Samsung are very fierce South Korean competitors. Oh, yeah, uh, and so there's a lot. There's corporate espionage going on over there. It's very intense, and they it's very serious. And for them, Yeah, for me, I'm just like I can't we all just we're just making TV. Serial TV said, you know, Can we all get along? I mean, I just give me all the case. We're fine, but, you know, uh, so now that's gonna be a marketing term. I don't want people to get confused. It's LG saying we've got the best contrast modulation, and it is good. It's we'll lead TV's look amazing. I love him whether or not that means other TVs that don't have good delineation between white black pixels when you do that kind of a test remains to be seen whether that I've been on television or not, because I've been testing a K TVs and most of them look really good, like it's actually, it's the processing that makes the biggest difference. You know, all the aye Aye, that's going into this stuff there, taking low resolution stuff in making it eight k. Since there's no real a K content that seems to have more of impact on the overall picture quality than the contrast modulation thing. So anyway, there's gonna be a fight and it will play out at sea s 2020 on. We'll see how much press this really 8k thing gets or how much it doesn't get and kind of take it from there. But I'm gonna wait until Sam's. I know what Samsung's 2019 TV's looked like. Now that this is a thing, I'll be interested to see what they're going to do with their 2020 TVs and what and how things will shake out when we test them. Um, that's it. Yeah, basically where we're at. But that's good to know. And this is again, You know, we try to keep you up to date with the Israel trends, if you will, of what's happening, and that is something we're gonna be seeing. So relate K versus A. K. And there's so much it's gonna be coming out with CS. Caleb is deep in it, so let us know what's going on. He will keep us up to date on everything that's going on televisions and thank you for your tireless effort of flying cross country. Follow him on Twitter by the way along on Twitter, if you don't know what ah really terrible plane ride is like from my perspective, you'll find it on Twitter. Oh, it's quite entertaining. I feel sorry for you, but it was entertaining. All right. Thank you. Embody too for tuning into digital trends live. We appreciate it. Don't forget we better podcast trends with benefits that also airs live at 2:30 p.m. Pacific. You can join us later on today for a round table discussion with myself and our crew. But we need to take a break because we've got so much that we're talking about here on the show. I'll say this. We have Stuart Thompson from New York Times is gonna be joining us shortly to talk about a new article that went up about how phones are tracking you. This is a brand new breaking, breaking news article that came out. We're gonna have one of the authors right here on this show that's coming up in a little bit. Before that, though, we did talk about artificial intelligence and I'm really excited about this. We have stepped over the VP of data and a I for IBM and the chief data officer at IBM Cloud and cognitive software. All that means this is somebody who knows what I'm talking about. That's what this is. This is a very smart person. Comes artificial intelligence so we'll discuss that and a whole lot more broadcasting live dropping your comes and questions back in a minute with more digital trends live. Welcome back to digital trends live. I'm Greg Nibbler. Thanks for joining us. We like to keep you up to date on technology. And that is what we do here every single day. 19 Pacific Noon Eastern. So hit that subscribe button and get the notifications. When we go live right now, we're gonna talk about artificial intelligence. It's such an exciting topic. And it's so interesting to see where it's going and how it's affecting everything that we d'oh to talk about this right now we have Seth Tobin, who is the VP of data and a I for IBM and the chief data officer at IBM Cloud and Cognitive Software. Seth, thanks so much for joining us. Yeah. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. We've got a lot to cover here with artificial intelligence, but first off, I want to talk to you about this team that IBM has, and I want to get the name right. The IBM data science elite team and what that is, it sounds like something that Tony Stark would would put together it zed exciting name But what what is that? And what is that in relation to artificial intelligence? Yeah, So the data signs Elite team is a team of about 100 data scientists, and the role of the team is really to sit with our clients and help them work through a tried and true method for implementing data science and a I in the enterprise. This method includes everything from a design thinking workshop to figure out what it is, what their opportunities are with decisions they want to tackle leveraging day to find. Today I all the way through to breaking that those decisions down into by our ties decisions once you figure out which decision you want to tackle breaking that down into the component models because most decisions were tackling or not. One model there multiple models, um, and then breaking down the individual models into a component sprint. And the goal is to get riel tangible value. And it's quick. It's six weeks. So this is something where just and correct me if I'm wrong just to walk through it here. So you have one of your clients come to you and say, Do they do they know what they want to use artificial intelligence for They just say, Hey, I've got a problem. Can you help me or what? What could be done about this? How would that process work? Yeah, So it's everything from we want to start leveraging day to find today. I am. We don't know where to start. Um, two very, very advanced clients who already using data science and a I A scale, whatever particular problem that they're trying to address. Um, and it could be, you know, we've used deep learning, you know, gp use for years for training, But we want to start leveraging GP use and a data to build our data pipeline and score in real time. And, you know, some companies have never done that. I don't have the expertise. So we'll come up with the expertise and those examples, those air, probably the outliers. It it's really somewhere between. We want to do this, and we don't know where to start to. Okay, we've already started. Can you help us optimize how we leveraged all these tools and how we start leveraging agile methodologies and how we demonstrate value in three sprints, which is I mean It's such a constantly evolving thing that I would imagine for a lot of businesses. It's it is that you fall somewhere in that range because it's so hard to understand everything that artificial intelligence can do because the tech is constantly changing just for our viewers. Could you give your definition of what? Artificial intelligences? Yeah. So? So, Artal Artificial intelligence is really about, um, integrating data science or machine learning into a year. The workflow and processes that your business is used toe help them do their jobs better. So a I is not about necessarily replacing people. It's about narrowing down the, you know, sometimes nearly infinite options into something that digestible by human. Right. Um and so, you know, a really good example of that is a position, right? You know, there's hundreds of thousands of papers published every day. You know, a physician would never have the time to go through all of these papers to help a particular patient. Um, but what artificial intelligence could do is it can actually read through all those papers. Um, it can digest down what the intent of those papers are what they're trying to solve. So you know some real clinical examples, and it can help narrow down. You know, keep a physician up to date when they see a patient. So if you come in and you have a particular cancer and they want to treat you with a drug, what's the best drug, whether it's experimental or already approved to give you the best outcome based on a variety of factors, Um, now within artificial intelligence? Part of that is data science, right? And this is where you start thinking about how do you apply machine learning or even deep learning in some cases, too. You know, I saw I oversimplify data science into with applying the scientific method to solve business problems. Using that, yeah, and that za great way to look at it. Just it is such a fun and exciting field to be in, you know, and to and to see where it's all changing and how it's helping people out that I think going down to yet it's math problems that need to be solved. That's that's a great way to look at it. Thank you. So, talking about the data science elite team, could we talk about that? Just a little bit more. You said it's 100 scientists that are on that. How do people join that? What is involved with that are different factions. How does how does this super teamwork? Yeah. So the data science elite team is about 100 people spread across North America, Europe and Asia Pacific. Um and so, uh, I'd say probably half the team is based in North America. Most of them are based in New York City and harassed Replace office. Um, we have people in London, uh, and Munich, Germany. There's about 25 of them in those locations, and the rest are in either Sydney or Singapore. Um, and you know, when we, the data scientist came is probably 15 of that 100 or people that were IBM, er's, um, the remaining people were all brought in from external. About 25% of those remaining people are early professional hires. And so at IBM, you know, we hire a lot of data scientists across the whole organization. Um, and we have a rigorous process on we pulled from the pool of early professional hiring program. We call it trust based hiring. Where there's a bunch of people from across the IBM do all the hiring and we find the best fit for different people. Um, and we certainly participate in that. And then we hire our mid career and, um, and more senior people. Um, basically, through our networks, there are a few people that we hired, you know, just that they just applied. But you know when when you think about hiring data scientists, most recruiters don't know where to find these people. Most recruiters don't necessarily talk the language that they need to talk. And so it's really about leveraging the network of the people you have on the ground to find the best talent. Um, and actually, hiring for the day assigned silly team is even harder because the expectation is that this team is gonna fly around the world working with clients. So they end up being meeting people that can spend 75% of their life on a plane or in another country. Well, that's ah, that actually sounds like an exciting team so that it really is. You know, you're on super team that you've created here and finding the right people. That's that's a challenge. While talking about it you know, just looking forward to 2020. Any predictions that you have, as far as where we're gonna see data science go. You know, I think up to this point data science says, and even a I has been really an experimental phase where if you listen to the analysts, you know, anywhere from 4 to 20% of companies have successfully integrated ai ai or data science into their their enterprise. Um, so that means let's just take best case. That means 80% of organization have either are trying to an unsuccessful of implementing day defiance and a I into their enterprise or haven't even begun to do that. Um, I think as we get into 2020 we're gonna see the number of enterprises that air successfully integrating. Aye, aye. And data find into the enterprise dramatically increased. Uh, and this is because I think companies are starting to figure out How do you do this in a way that very strategy driven instead of experimental of them. Um So how do you understand what decisions you want to tackle for your enterprise? What the value of those decisions are and and really doing it in a focused manner, as opposed to letting your data science teams figure out where they want to work. That may or may not have value for the enterprise or, even more importantly, may or may not have a business user that wants to consume it. Because you can build the best model in the world or developed about a I in the world. And if no one using that, who cares? Well said, Thank you so much for joining us here to talk about this. It's really just such a fascinating topic, and you are certainly at the forefront. And so it's It's illuminating to see where this is going and what your team is doing, and we really appreciate you joining us here on digital trends live today. All right, thanks for having me. I appreciate the opportunity. Thank you so really exciting. What they're doing, what IBM is doing. I mean, obviously at the forefront of artificial intelligence with their data elite science team. I mean, really fun stuff. It's It's always interesting to see where artificial intelligence is going and how we're managing all this data. All right, let's do this. We are going to be taking a break right now because there is an article that came out on the New York Times opinion today, and it has to do with how location data is being saved being used from our phones. So we all have this idea, you know, that our phones are tracking us. Well, it turns out they really are. And where that data is being stored is shocking. And who has access to it is all so shocking. So we're going to have one of the authors. Stuart Thompson was gonna be joining us here shortly after this break to talk about the article, walk through some of the findings that they had and go into this and a little more in depth. This is really a great segment. So we're looking forward to talking to them and stick around. We'll be back in a minute with more digital friends live. Welcome back to digital trends live. I'm Greg Miller, and thanks for joining us. We like to keep you up to date on what's going on in the world of technology. And when it comes to our phones, how many of us out there is have this conversation with someone where you're like, Hey, it feels like my phone is tracking me. I know that the state is going somewhere. Where is it going? I assume it's secure these different conversations that we all have Well, turns out that may not be the case as far as how secure that data is right now. Joining us, we have Steward a. Thompson from The New York Times, to talk about a new series of articles that are going up there covering just that. Stuart, thank you so much for joining us. So walk us through what this series of articles is, if you don't mind. And then also, I want to get into details about some of these findings that you have. You're so basically a source came to us with the day. Descent containing 50 billion location pains from Smart Mounds were more than 12 million Americans, and it covers a bunch of major cities. Washington, D. C. San Francisco L. A. And you know, the source is really concerned about what was in there, and we spend a couple months reporting on the potential risks. The data is anonymous in a sense, and that there's no phones, no emails. There's no names, but it was pretty trivial to identify people given where they live, where they work. And for most people, that's enough separation, and it's really the first look. I think we've got into an industry that is mostly operated behind the scenes. You know, when APS that you download and you know it's not really obvious what data they're collecting. And now I think for the first time you get a glimpse of it and it's quite yeah. Unsettling is a is a great way to describe that and going in depth on some more of this. So talking about these, these different acts that are tracking your data, and I think that's really something that a lot of us just don't don't think about is that all of these acts that were downloading really are doing that. And these data sets that you were just talking about these air stored in certain places. Can we talk about who is storing these data sets? Yes, so these are companies, for the most part, work with, uh manufacturers, and they slip their programs in there by working with the developers, and then they start collecting the data and you have to start thinking about location where you move around, this sort of a valuable thing. We think of it as like just a sort of like the excess of our movements. We did some value back from that, like a local alert or something like that. But actually it's quite valuable to marketers and companies that want to learn more about how we move around the city will be by and what would be this to buy into it added a good person product later and so on. So there's a bunch of companies they work in the location to your business and they collect this on a scale. So the amount of data that receives you know a company are a couple of discrepancies. Much is that every single day for the entire country and for the time world really exists. International. Yeah, and then they use it. They create and Alceste insides and in some cases they also sell it to other companies, further expanding the privacy dresses. And that's and that's one of those key things that this is just it's not really secure data. This is for sale and walking through your article on this which I highly encourage. Everybody go read. It's It's shocking. It's It's fascinating. Um, you were able to actually take one of those pings and be able to track down and extrapolate from that and figure out who someone was. Generally, Can you walk through? What? That what that was like, Yes, so you know the companies. They will say that it's anonymous, and if you look at their websites, anonymity is a big feature of the data they have. But if you think about where you go and if your phone is pinging your location of all the times, you probably go to your work and you probably go to your house most of the most part and then some other places that you may or may not want people to know you're going to. But given those two locations, that creates a kind of identity for you and your movements. And using that we can isolate one paying. There's an idea attached to each location thing, uh, for each person, for it smart from, and that gives us a picture of their life like a literal picture and looking at someone's home. You know there's no name or a phone number I d attached, but the the home does, and you can reverse engineer pretty easily who that person is. And in some cases, you know, you look at somebody and go from a supposedly anonymous location data set to identifying who they were, where they worked in less than 30 seconds. In some cases, it took almost no time at all the people. And I think that's a good example of the risks. That's that's a great example. And you walk through some specific ones in the article as well, talking about all this data, you know, these companies that have this and you know the general thing is these are unregulated. Is that correct? He walked through What? What kind of I guess security and privacy guarantees do we have with this data, or is there just none? And and how are these companies handling that? He has a good question, So there's what it comes to. There's there's general laws covering location data and just like any other data, you have to provide reasonable consent to get it in the UPS to get consent from, uh from users when they agreed to share location. But they don't always specify exactly how they're using it. And you know what privacy policy that says they share it with third parties might cover them. Legally speaking, but isn't, uh doesn't do very much for people who are not gonna wait into those policies must be known. Nobody reads those and they're working for lawyers and by lawyers on there is no federal law specifically governing location and location, just kind of in different laws is a patchwork of state laws, but it is really largely unregulated industry. And I think this piece is arguing for is no federal laws in Congress toe Look at this issue and introduce something to protect and looking at it from that standpoint, as far as that there aren't any loss. Is that just because of negligence or ignorance that this is an issue? Or is that by design that we intentionally don't have these laws right now protecting us? I think it's partly this is a little new if you think about it. Trucks for the app store. Barkley. About 10 years ago, this this kind of smart phone location tracking was wasn't around. And now it is, And I think you know Congress might be slow to adapt, but it's especially risky in the case where you have no business is making a lot of money. There's a lot of investment going on in the the industry is not slowing down, and you can't really blame them because they're not violating. Oslo just don't exist. And, you know, maybe in some cases you could ethics of it, but yeah, so I think, yeah, definitely needs did to educate themselves. And we all need to be educated more about what is going on with all this data. And that's why this this article is just, you know, fantastic that you've kind illuminated this. And can you just give everybody an idea, too? I know this is a Siri's that's gonna be going up. Can you talk a little bit about that About what to expect? Going forward? Yeah. So, um, the tomorrow will be releasing a story about national security implications, of which there are any you can imagine the dating with Washington and, uh, buildings in Washington. And the people were also looking a protest in democracy angles. So if you're at a protest, you might think you're anonymous, but obviously status. It suggests that you're not, uh and we also know we identified some people and went to their door and started talking women trying to see what they thought about. It s so that story will be out this weekend. Um, yeah. One more question just for you, after doing all this research and really, you know, knowing all of this information now, how do you feel with your phone? Did you change any of your habits? Yes. Yes, I am sort of a nut now, maybe, but application all times I'm very ruthless about I'm talking to people in the concert that they review the APS and we have a guide on our part of the Serie is trying to help people assess. What kind of look isn't showing? People just don't know. They think they do, but they don't. So check in, check out your own APS. I am one of those people that thought I knew, but I clearly did not. So, Stuart, thank you so much for joining us here to talk about this. Congratulations on the piece. It's very illuminating. And we really appreciate you joining us here on digital trends live. Hey, so much. All right, so that is, you know, breaking news right there that we just got Thio docked him about its eye again. I have to recommend going to read that article. It's just really illuminating. And it's one of those things where I brought that up. Where we have these different conversations with our friends with family, you know, we always talk about Oh, yeah, my phone's tracking me, but seriously, your phone is tracking you, and this is that data and what's being what it's being used for, how it's being secured is such an important issue that we all need to be tackling. And hopefully there are some regulations that come out of this. All right, we have more coming up. We need to take a break. We're broadcasting live here on digital trends, and that's part of the fun of the show. You get to talk to you about cutting edge news. We talked about all kinds of things. So coming up next, though, we're gonna talk to Evan Reese of Lift Topia with Topia. It's a site to help you find good tickets for skiing for resorts, and it's about time somebody did something like that. So we're gonna be discussing lift Hope yet with him what it's like founding that company and how all that works. So stick around back in a minute with more digital trends. Life, right? Welcome back to your digital trends live. Thanks for joining us. I'm Greg Nibbler. Whatever platform you are watching on, you can join in the conversation and conversations what we have right now. So joining us, we have the co founder and CEO of Lift topia. We have Evan Reese. Evan, thank you so much for joining us. Yeah, thanks for having me today, So I want to give everybody an overview. Can you talk about what lift hope yet is? Yeah, absolutely. So it was actually a 14 year old company almost 15 based here in San Francisco. And for the past, a bunch of years, we've been building pricing and revenue management tools for high volume ticketing businesses and then helping them to sell those products online. Um, in addition to those pricing tools that we provide v a r e commerce platform envy AP guy, we also offer distribution service is, uh, the our consumer brand with Toby dot com, which is really, what with Toby is most known for and where we got started Well, and looking at that from that from a consumer side of things, can you talk about what was your inspiration for lift topia and getting into what some of the things are that you do on the site? Absolutely. So we had come out of, ah, travel background had been at hotwire dot com, which is an Expedia company. And what we had foreseen is that it was somewhat inevitable for these other businesses, like ski areas, to seek pre sale to get people to buy in advance. And what that would do is what that would mean is that they would seek some of the best practices in online marketing and e commerce and underneath the surface pricing strategy to to yield that consumer vague. So way back in 2005 when online selling was pretty common for hotel in air, it was pretty uncommon for other ticketing businesses, and so we got our feet wet by starting to offer the ability for ski areas to sell uh, highly discounted products in exchange for customers commitment and gave them the tools Thio understand how they were performing such that they could continue to reward that commitment and get more people to buy online. Were you a scare yourself or snowboarder? I waas? Yeah. I grew up skiing in Massachusetts on then sort of set my sights on bigger mountains in Maine and Vermont And then, uh, overtime work my way west on Got my first taste of Tahoe back in 2001 when I first moved here. Nice. So it benefited you some two for these good resort tickets. Well, talking about it, you know, looking at the platform for somebody who's going on, you know, you mentioned Hotwire and Expedia and those kinds of experiences and the girl pretty familiar with that at this point is that similar to what the lift O P experience is like, Yeah, it's very similar. I think the way that people are buying airline tickets and hotel hotel rooms online in advance is exactly how we're selling tickets on the 50 dot com. And I think what What the change has been over the years is that, um it doesn't make sense for anyone to buy an airline ticket at the airport. And what love Topia has done is help people understand that that now is also true for a ski lift tickets. So if you're if you're gonna wait and buy at the ticket window, you're gonna pay a hefty premium to, um, what you would get if you would commit sooner. And and I think, yeah, that's that's such a good way to look at the two is just talking about how how we can pick it up sooner and plan ahead. And that's one of the things that I think is really need aboutthe site is that you have so many different resorts that you work with. So how do you pick and choose who is going to be on the platform? Yeah, I mean, we work with anyone and everyone, Um, and a lot of what we're trying to dio At left, Opie is exposed people to the broader world of skiing. You know, a lot of people are very familiar with, uh the large brand name ski resorts, and we love them, too. But I think skiers underneath the surface of pretty adventurous people, and they're looking to find new experiences. And there's so much soul in ski areas all over the world large and small. And a lot of what we're aspiring to do is to help people, you know, find their next favorite ski area. Some of my favorite ones are those smaller ones that, you know, they're not the giant resorts where you have, you know, 25 lifts or something. There's like five of them, but the really great and, yeah, finding those ones getting exposed them to keep them open. That's that's a huge thing right there. Get them. Enough with that? Yeah, And you know, our mission statement is we help people spend more time doing the things I love by helping her partners run their businesses more effectively. And I think that, um, we are really empowering ski areas of all sizes to facilitate this offline online shift, run a healthier business and therefore be capable of investing more heavily in this experience. Their resorts large and small, so that the skiing gets better and the on mountain experience gets better because they're running a health. What are some of the trends that you're seeing just with your sights that you have an explosion to so much information about how the industry is doing What are some of the trends that you're seeing when it comes to this? Yeah, Without a doubt. I think what's very clear, uh, in the ski world is that the areas are very much rewarding pre commitment. Um and so if if used by earlier, you're going to spend less than you by later. And unlike the, uh, the air in hotel worlds, where perhaps you'll see some last minute fare sales. So you're always worried about whether you should by now or wait. That is almost never the case with scary. So basically, if you see a deal for the 13th of January, right now, that is the best price you're gonna get between now and that, Um and it's likely on Lee to go up from here and then separately, in addition to planning in advance and being rewarded for doing so, seek out some off peak times. Um, it's pretty clear that Christmas Week is gonna be a little bit more expensive. Then the week after on the Wednesday in ah, in late March is gonna be less expensive than you know that the Saturday over Easter weekend. Um, and so this is all about getting people more time on the hill on DSO, there are a lot of tips and tricks toe finding more of these deals and getting more time out there. I love that. Yes, that's more tips and tricks, the better. I mean, so So when you see a deal by that deal because it's not gonna change without a doubt all right, that's that's great. Well, for everybody goes to live topia dot com again. You know, walking through that experience, he said. It's it's similar to what we're customs thio, which is which is great. Any other recommendations that you would have for people? Yeah, to your point earlier about loving the smaller ski areas. I think it is really worth exploring alongside. On the larger scary is that you know in love, um, and so is something I always recommend is if you're taking a destination trip, for example, to Colorado and you have that big brand name resort in mind, make sure you tack on an extra day at some of the resorts that are sort of more locally known, like Arapahoe Basin or lovely Um, And then the same is true in New England or the Midwest It's just run around a little bit and see what's available, because you will find a lot of soul in every scary. And it's hard to find a security that's not worth visiting. Once on DSO, I always recommend running around 100%. Yeah, I gotta go find that little lodged somewhere in the middle of nowhere. You know, it's sit down, have a beer after skiing. It's a great experience, so lift opiate dot com. That's where people could go check it out. I want to say thank you so much for joining us here. A. Digital trends live today. Yeah, thanks for having me have a good day and you get out there some. Yeah, me too. All right, well, that is That's really, really fascinating learning about that. So, again, talking about lift topia dot com in different ways that we can experience. And that's one of those things about technology that I like is like like we were talking about. You know, you get to find and discover things online that you may not have discovered otherwise and go check out some different things and go to the big boy system. All right, let's do this. We take a break, We're gonna come back. We have a rally win and Erin Kinney, who have their new edition of real news talking about the movies that are coming out this week. One they're gonna talk about that's coming up here after this, we'll take a break back in a minute with more digital trends alive. Hi, I'm Erin Keeney, and I'm Riley one. And this is really news. The show that helps you decide what movies deserve Your money at the box office this weekend, first up to young soldiers set out on a death defying mission in a race against time. Here's a look at 1917 might be good. Hope is a dangerous thing. We've got all just across here that is the German front line. If we're not clever about this, no one will get to your brother. 1917 falls Two young British soldiers during World War who are given what looks like an impossible, incredibly dangerous mission. Lance corporals Blake and Scofield must march deep into enemy territory to deliver a message that will stop 1600 of their own men from walking into a deadly trap. This is more of a thriller than a conventional war film. It starts when everything is kind of relatively quiet on the Western front and then immediately were thrown into the trenches with all the rat infestation, sniper filled towns along with these soldiers. And, you know, time is not on their side. There's a ticking clock aspect through the film adds this extra intensity. And to make things even more tense. No, no more. 10. Okay, I think it's more time. Lance Corporal Blakes, very own brother, is one of the men in danger of being taken into that trap. So wow, right when you said that I was just drawn into it emotionally, thinking of my own brother and on a mission like that is gonna be really imagine. The Stone stars British actors Dean Charles Chapman as Lance Corporal Blake. Then we have George Mackay is Lance Corporal Scofield. We also see Andrew Scott, Richard Madden, Benedict Cumberbatch and Oscar winner calling for Colin Firth is my number one number one favorite. Yeah, well, this is from Oscar winning director Sam Mendez, who also co wrote the screenplay, and it's based on a story told to mend as many, many years ago by some veterans of World War. But here's what's so cool. One of those veterans was Mendez is very own grandfather. Wow, that's we make a movie about your grandpa. World War one. So, yeah, his grandfather is novelist Alfred Mendez, and he served as a lance corporal in the British Army during World War. The stories they're from, you know, 100 years ago. But the style of the film is actually based on modern day video games. Yeah, A. Mendez said he was influenced by those third person action titles like Star Wars Battlefront. The film consists of two roughly our long shots. Here's what's really cool. They're stitched together by one blackout, and we're watching each shot unfold in real time. Talk about things films. Such an astounding effort is that it's edited seamlessly as one continuous reel time. Take Yeah, like you said, it's one take. It's evident that way, and that's one reason I'm really excited to see it, because the whole story of the film is centered around that time element. I think the way that it shot really makes you feel the intensity of that time crunch and then also because it's one shot, one camera. You're following the soldiers. You feel like you're down in the trenches with them? Yeah, it feels grimy. My hands get clammy watching the trailer, so I can only imagine how I'm going to feel when I go see it in theaters. Yeah, I think it's gonna be really, really, really intense. Well, if you want to get some backstory on World War, you could watch one of my favorite films from this past year, maybe one of my favorite films ever. It's Peter Jackson's epic documentary. They shall not grow old. You can check that out, or you can dive straight into the trenches with 1917 storms. Theaters December 25th. If a man is back in the latest installment of this beloved franchise, let's take a look at it, man, for this is the fourth and supposedly final chapter in the martial arts franchise, and this time it man is heading back to America for one more fight. This film centers on it man's life. After his wife's death, he goes to America to try to make a better life for himself and his son. When he gets to San Francisco, he finds that a student, Bruce Lee, you may have heard of him before. Hey has upset the local martial arts community by opening the Wing Chun school. While in America, it man is faced with a lot of racial discrimination, and it really leads him to reflect on his life and try to figure out why did I get into martial arts in the first place? Hong Kong martial artists Donnie Yen is back to play the beloved it man. Then we also have Kwan Chan as the martial arts legend Bruce Lee Wilson, yet is back at the helm for this one. So now he's directed all four of the films. That's pretty good to keep things consistent, and it's written by Edmond Wong again and Hiroshi Fukuzawa Hitman debuted. You know, more than a decade ago, it's hard to believe back in 2008 on. The franchise is actually based on a real life martial artist who lived until 1972 and this guy is credited with the creation of the fighting style known as Wing Chun. Yeah, so Bruce Lee, one of the world's biggest action stars, was his most famous students well down again. The film star recently caused quite a stir because he announced After you heard this, he announced, This is his last movie. Everyone was up in arms about this, but he did come back and clarify, though it's not his last action movie, he's just moving, you know, moving on from the kung fu genre. But, you know, I think many fans remember he said the same thing. Three back in 2015. So I mean, you never know. But he does say, wasn't his intention. It wasn't any of their intentions to do a number four. I think there was a lot of fan response, but he thinks this one will be a very memorable experience and hopefully kind of wrapped things up nicely for the fans of the franchise. I mean, Aaron, who doesn't love kung fu, they're amazing. When I was younger, they were really big with Jackie Chan, and I don't know how many times I mean my friend's hurt ourselves trying to reenact those stunts. So I think we'll go see it, man, for in theaters, see if we still got the moves, see if we can still fake beat each other up. Yeah, well, I would recommend. Maybe bring some ice packs this time or ibuprofen, chickens and flip man for kicks. It's way into theaters Christmas Day Up next, I'm one of millions of people who count this story as one of their biggest childhood influences. Let's take a look at little Women. I'm working on a novel. It is a story of my life, and my sisters make it short and spicy. And if the main character is a girl, make sure she's married by the end, I intend to make my own way in the world. No one makes their own way, least of all a woman you'll need to marry. Well, you are not married. Well, that's because I'm rich. We can leave right now. I'll sell stories, trying you here to be an actress, and you should have a life on the stage. Just because my dreams are different than yours doesn't mean they're unimportant. This film follows the lives of four sisters who come of age in the aftermath of the American Civil War. We have all of the March sisters, Joe May, Beth and Amy. They're all wildly different, but they always have each other's backs and stand by each other through difficult and changing times. The film stars search a ronin. You may know her from Lady Bird. She plays Joe. We have the famous Emma Watson is made. Then we have Australian actress ELISA Scanlon as Beth in Florence Pugh as Amy. Laura Dern plays their wise mom, Marmie, who encourages the daughters to travel in their own past. We also have Timothy Shallow May, who plays the boy next door. He's a march Sisters, admirers, Laurie from the book. And then we also have the ever so talented Meryl Streep as the wealthy Aunt March. Meryl Streep's In Something You know it's gonna be a solid thing. This film is based on Louisa May Alcott's acclaimed 18 68 novel of the same name, and it's actually the eighth film Interational out of this story. Yeah, and this time Greta Gerwig from Lady Bird, as we said, is at the helm, and she's teaming up again with Social Ronan and Timothy. Shallow May on Gerwig says she was adamant about getting back to the stories core here. So just to give you a little bit of context 150 years ago, when Louisa May Alcott's Little Women and was first published. Everyone read it. It was a blockbuster. Kids, women, men, families. It was not only a fresh take on American women and young girls. I mean, it really showed all of our complexities and showed us his actual, fully formed people, which was kind of novel at the time. And it was completely eye opening, you know, for people reading it. And over the years, like I said, there have been a number of film and TV adaptations, you know, just across all mediums of this story, focusing Maur though you know, on the romances and over time they just started to look more at things through kind of a pastel colored lens. You know, some things get diluted over time, but this is a true American masterpiece. On early, critics are saying that Gerwig might be the first director to stay true to that original stories. High praise that is that you know it's well deserved, and Gerwig, who cites Jo March as her childhood hero. She's my favorite one. Thio says that you know, sure, there is romance here, their moral lessons here, but we're not looking closely enough. If That's oh, we're seeing. So let's let's dig a little deeper, you know, into what this story is really about. And the director drew the dialogue almost entirely from the original book and author Alcott's own letters and diaries and a Girl wigs version, though unlike other adaptations we're going to see, is told almost entirely out of order. So she shuffled this. Yes, it's kind of like looking back at some memories and things like that. I do, too. But really, you know, if there's a core message here, if there is a core message of little women, I think it's that there are many, many, many ways of being a girl. Yeah, I'm really excited to see this movie because of the caste. Like you said, there's many different ways to be. Girl is different ways to the woman, and the women in the story are very strong, and the woman who are playing those characters are also very strong. They're icons in the acting world, and I mean, any time Meryl Streep attach is her name to a movie, I'm probably going to go see in theaters like the feel of a, you know, exactly salad for sure. Well, yeah. You know, we're gonna be talking a lot about awards season because just after the holidays, a kicks off awards season in the new year, we'll search a ronin and the film's composer for the score for Little Women. Both earned Golden Globe nominations this year, so congratulations to them. But Greta Gerwig, the director, did not. Uh, the cast has been very vocal in other directors and other people in Hollywood has been very vocal about that snub. Not just that snub, but female directors all around the globe are notorious for shutting out female directors. I'm sure you've heard about this. There have only been five female director nominees, and it's nearly 77 year history. Five and 77 years. So let that sink in. Yeah, and it's been almost five years since a female director was even nominated. Yeah, yeah, things things have got to change. In the meantime, go see Little women. December 25th. If you're going to see one movie this weekend, make it Star Wars. The rise of Skywalker. You can get your tickets at Fandango. Thanks so much for watching real news and happy holidays. We'll see you next time. All right, Welcome back to digital trends live. That was real news. With Riley win in Aaron Kini. I cannot wait to see the means that are created with rally in that sweater. All right, we've got this. We've had a show today. I promised an onslaught of tech news at the top of the show, and I feel like way delivered accurately on that promise. So let's talk about tomorrow. We're on the show. We've got Ken Young coming back from footboard about tech briefs where we recap the biggest stories in tech during the week to tree No. Going into the weekend got Star Pressler for another episode of work Life. About different ways. You can manage your work. Life balance. Always interesting. You've got Ryan Juanita for between the streams where we'll be talking about maybe Star Wars. That's probably what we're gonna talk about and some other things. 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