STEM Education & The Girl Scouts + 16″ MacBook Pro Hands On | Digital Trends Live 11.20.19

On the show today: Disney+ has been wildly popular but it’s been racked with flaws and hacks; Uber to offer riders the ability to audio record on their trips; Apple Music is working with business to uplevel elevator music…


this is digital trends live here every week. Day 19 Pacific Noon Eastern Bringing you tech headlines, news, interviews, discussions and more all well, broadcasting live across a number of different platforms. And we're here in our Samsung queue at four K studio and we're live on periscope, Twitter, twitch, Facebook, YouTube linked in daily motion, Apple News, two different mobile app, a smart television app and it digital trends dot com slash live. So wherever you're fighting us, joining the conversations that we get to have and there are, ah, lot of conversations we're gonna be having today about technology to start it off, though I'm Greg Nibbler, joined by Luke Larson. Hello, Luke. Good morning. Good morning. So much to talk about today. Oh, happy to be here. Excellent. Well, let's go ahead and get it started. Let's talk about this a few different training stories that we want to get to here at the top of the show, and the 1st 1 has to do with Disney. Plus, it's been a little over a week since the streaming service launched, and if you remember, that didn't roll out so smooth, and it still is having some issues and there's a couple of things that have come out now. +11 of the Disney executives is talking about what caused the crash now. Originally, they said it was because the demand was just so high they didn't expect. It turns out, no, it was a coding error. They had some coding errors in it, which could be one of the things that happens when you don't let anybody download the app until the day it actually launches. Yeah, and just don't give yourself any grace period there. Yeah, just like it's a bold move. It's a bold move to just go ahead and do that and go live like that. But that is what they did. So that's part of the issue, what they're talking about, there's a coating issue. They're gonna have to recode it. So if you're still seeing issues which a lot of people are, that is something that that might be happening for a little while. There's also a couple other things coming up when they don't have a continue watching feature, which I noticed that myself watched part of the man DeLorean came back to it. I'm like no sort of getting over Yeah, yes. So fast Forward. Right? And it's one of those things were thinking about it. If there was some beta testing, you would think that would be just a a real quick 10 yeah, people would figure out. Take whatever, you know, whatever. Netflix has just literally copy, copy, copy everything Netflix does. They've got it down. Yeah, and get that on there. That is what we're looking at with that on. The other part of it is this. There was some mass hacking going on with Disney plus accounts, and yours could have been one of them. So hackers stole a large number of user names and passwords, and then we're selling them online for $3 apiece. This is there's a couple of things that air one that's terrible, that things were getting hacked. You know, nobody wants that happening, but also the fact that it's selling for $37 already, and it's a free week trial, but they're selling for three bucks a pop. People just go by like you're that, I mean, cheaper than I thought they would be Cheaper than you thought, right? Three bucks a pop is what they're selling for him. People are buying them because I don't want to pay the $7 or nothing for a free week. They'd rather by the $3 password. Yeah, there's a lot of, like bundles where you get it for free or the free trial or you get a free trial for a week. I think just to start off so you could watch quite a bit just with that. But yeah, that's selling them online for three bucks a pop. Um, I mean, how do you feel about yourself when you're buying a stolen? You know, it's six years. You're not so worried about the hackers. You're right about the people buying the past. I'm sure, like people, people. I mean the hackers. That's easy way all don't like that. But, I mean, I'm shaming the people that are paying the three bucks for this stolen user name and password. Just sign up for a free trial. Come on, you can do it. But anyway, that's that's what one of the things that's coming up. I wonder if this is also like a knish you with the service itself because they don't have, like, a two factor authentication like you would have on a lot of APS and Service's have that. Yeah is, um, and that's just another thing that's like It's a new thing, right? No, exactly what they should include or not includes. Yeah, that seems like an easy way to avoid a lot of stuff getting hacked, right? Yeah, but that is that's where we're at right now. So that's what Disney plus. I mean, the service is out and you know it's streaming and they're fixing some of these issues, but it's still interesting seeing even a week later where we're at with that and what's going on with some of the issues that they've been having. We could read more about both of those stories that digital trends dot com continuing on with some other trending stories. This one's interesting comes from uber, and it's uber's continuing efforts to increase security when you're on your ride. Then they released a number of different things. There's the ability to call 9113 ap. There's also the ability to reports drivers even when you get in. But there's a test they've been running in Latin America that is now going to be coming to the U. S and has to do with recording audio of right, and this is something they're gonna be bringing now. The way it works right now is that essentially the driver would be able to record and the passenger would be able to record. But how this is implemented is one of the big things that people don't really know. So Uber said in the upcoming pilot that drivers would set the future to automatically record all trips. But for the writers to record have to activate the future through the safety tool kit. So there's different options there. However, when it comes to recording rides, there's a lot of legal issues. Well, swords of legal issues. Yeah, very state by state. Yet are some states where you need both people to consent to an audio recording. Some say it's just one side, right, so it's a that's a huge mess. I am not a big fan of being recorded without uber, right. I mean, let's be honest when you in the back of a new over, you know, I mean, you may maybe it's because you're not supposed to be driving that you're taking one of these. That's a good reason to do that. Maybe I don't want an audio recording of whatever is going on. That's that's something that I find a little bit troubling because the other issue is that, you know, once it's recorded, where's it stored? Yeah, what kind of security do they have? They say it's encrypted and stuff but lie like it's always for safety purposes. And that's how it oh starts right there's inevitably there be some kind of problem, right? And that's just how it always is with these. And that's why it's really is benevolent reasons that you know it's for safety and safety is important. I'm not making light of the safety concern where this could be something that could actually help out if something does happen in union recording of what went on. I'm just saying if you're going to implement it, man, it's a real dicey way to go about it. It really is, and I just don't think anybody want, like I'm sure the drivers don't want this. I'm sure most people think this is weird and now something they want to dio Yeah, so I don't know, another thing that was brought up actually out in dealing with the consent of who's recording is, you know, generally not generally, but a lot of times you know you're taking a new uber with multiple people. So who is consenting out? That's true there. So if they let the one who called the ride, they're consenting. But do they have to get the consent of all of their other passengers? Yep. And that's where there's a lot of legal potholes when it comes to this of how they're going to roll this out. I want to know what people think. How do you feel about this? Let's say it's an automatic recording that you you just assume that you're gonna be recorded. I guess if you know that's great. But if it's an optional thing, you don't know you're being recorded. I mean, to me, that's that's kind of a concern. Yeah, I don't think this is gonna This is not gonna make it. No, that's not I don't think so. There's too many legal issues and just like perception around this is like, I don't think this is gonna go through in the US. Yeah, well, I mean, they're bringing it there. D'oh! They're gonna be testing it. Yeah. Yeah, that's that state by state thing, which is a huge issue. Yeah, I'm sure that probably like, like, work that out. Start in a state where it's a little more, like, easy for lax. Yeah, well, that is something that they're gonna be bringing. So let us know what you think about that again. That's uber testing out, recording the audio of your rides, and you would be able to do it to record the driver. And I guess I could be speaking to drivers or passengers. I'm speaking from the passenger side of things, but either way, that's what could go on. I think you just have to have giant signs. I mean, if you're going to record everything, just make it a thing. Like if you're getting in here, you are being recorded, and that's just it. Everybody knows that's what they do in, like a taxi, right? Do they have, like, you know, they have to get on video? Yeah, that's true. So, yeah, we're just turning these into taxi cabs. They really are. All right. Well, that's where we're at with uber. So check that out of digital trends dot com continuing on with some trending stories in Tech. We have Apple in the news for a number of reasons. We're gonna focus on one of them right now. And it's with Apple music but a specific type of Apple music. It's Apple music for business. Apple is going into the Muzak business, if you will. And it's something that they rolled out The partnership with Play Network, where businesses consign up for Apple music for business plans. And then they get licensed music to be played in their retail locations. It's actually human curated playlists. So I'm like, Well, I guess I suppose I don't really know how it all works in, like grocery stores, that if those air curated, that would be kind of odd to me. But, um, I think it's more problem curated on a very large scale, right? Yeah, the mass and the mass amount of it. But this would be curated specifically to your location based on things that you input about your business, what kind of business you have. In that way, they would update it constantly. Yeah, I imagine there stay like apples, hiring all these like branding representatives who are gonna work, work with Starbucks and, like, you know, they got the holiday mix and it's gonna show up at the store to get the feel of things feels feels like a Moby location, something I don't know what, but I wouldn't go there. But that's that's what we're dying out there with Apple music for business, and it's just kind of furthering their plans to to spread their music service, other places. I honestly, I think it's a pretty smart idea. It's a really smart idea for Apple. Yeah, it's gonna be a huge moneymaker, I think, and just like the idea of their their service all like, everywhere you go, just playing all the time in the background. Yeah, yeah, So that's Ah, that's what they're looking at right now And they're gonna be doing in, uh, Herod's in New York. I'm probably saying that wrong. I was set up with heads of Iran's I can't you just have to bust us on buses on it wherever you're watching. We're being called out here, but that's that's what the place is there gonna be testing it out first. But then I'm sure they're gonna see a lot of other businesses picking this up to you More about that at digital trends dot com. Alright, Final thing we want to get to here in our top of the news. And then we're gonna be having an unboxing of a MacBook pro here live on the show. Look, Larsen's gonna join us. So before that, though, let's talk about Amazon and the Amazon go stores. So this is something that Amazon has been working on for? Wow, they already have. About 21 of them are out in the marketplace is right now we've got Seattle's has them. London has them a few other places around the U. S. But they're looking to rapidly expand these stores in the Amazon. Go store is the idea. You walk in its cashier list there, there, no cashiers. You walk in, you pick things off the shelf, you scan your Amazon prime password or you're exceeding your Amazon prime account when you walk in and then it just registers what you pick up and then you just walk right back out the door and your account gets charged. They want to work towards this goal of a cashier lis society. Essentially, when it comes to these stores. They've got convenience stores right now, but they want to go into big grocery stores and turn those into that. How do you feel about these? I mean, I think it's super convenient. Yeah, I think I can imagine that being really helpful. I've never been in one before, but I think it's hard to look at that and not be like, Yeah, that does kind of feel like the future of grocery stores, but right, Yeah, I mean, for myself, I am a fan of the cashier list line with a self checkout line. Yeah, I like that. Because the other problem, though, with self checkout. And if you listen to transit benefits, Caleb and I have talked about this before. We do think that people need a license in order to run the self checkout. If you haven't practiced it, I'm not ready to pay. It defeats the purpose of the self checkout line, so I'm a fan of this where you don't even have to deal with that like it's what orientation you have to go through to get the license. And then, if you're not equipped and not functioning enough to handle the self checkout you got to go to the cashier. I mean, it's just simple. You're holding everybody up personal things, but that's this is what we're looking at there with him. Go. And they're also looking at licensing this technology to other other stores. Other operations. They're talking about airports. They talked about cinemas. So if you go to the movie theater, just have it in that way. Which, Yeah, I could see that being and easy with it. Handle that. Yeah. Yeah. You have different ways that we could bring in this idea of this cashier list, remember? Like like, apples has something like this in their apple stores for a long time where you could just kind of grabbed really shelf in zone. They just give you your apple, I d. And you know, it doesn't like that you don't have to ask anything, so But, I mean, that's a very small scale, like you don't go in there often and buy things, so it's all right, you know? But this is a This could be a mad thing you might do on a weekly basis, you know? So, yeah, they're testing a start supermarket right now in Capitol Hill. in Seattle. It's a 10,400 square foot market that's going to be part of that. So check that out and you can read more about it at digital trends dot com. Alright, let's continue on here. We're gonna take a break. We're gonna come back. Luke is gonna bring in a box. In that box is a computer, and we're gonna open it. So that's gonna be happening right now We've got a lot of tech happening, were brought We're broadcasting live. Take your comments questions as we go throughout the show. But if you have questions about Mac book Pro the new one, we have it. That's what we're gonna take a look at and drop those questions. And we're back here a minute with more general trends live and anyway, so I like pros. 11 years go for separation. TV is making history again. Groundbreaking Samsung Que ele e d eight k. Welcome back to you. Digital trends live. I'm Greg Miller. Thank you for joining us. We're broadcasting live. You can drop in your comments as we go throughout the show or questions. If you have that about what we're talking about and this has certainly been something that a lot of people were excited about is the 16 inch MacBook Pro. The brand new one. Luke Larsen is here. We're gonna unbox one right now. Live here on the show? Yep. The old 16 inch MacBook pro. Um, long awaited, long awaited way that you were anticipating are hoping for for a long time, right? Yeah. And didn't think I was gonna get it this year. Really? Did you think was gonna happen in your lifetime? But there it is. They came through. Yeah. So let's let's get this out of here. All right. So this is Ah, again. You know, for the sun Boxing. This is exactly looks we have not opened this. This is what How it would show up. And the boxing's always something. The presentation of laptops is something I have especially come to appreciate since we've been doing is on the show. Yeah. There's a whole art art form to this. Yeah, and an apple is, you know, they're the king of the of the box and the presentation of it. Yeah. I mean, and that's important. I mean, it just looks like something you want. Yes, Looking at that mean the way they way they present. It is definitely top of the line. Yes, they even have the having this little plastic. It's always a struggle. But the stream crap off right? This lot, they're smart. Just pull on it. And your That is something that should have been invented a long time. I feel like that is strange. That's the first time we're seeing innovation innovation because they're moving forward. Hey. All right, All right. So here it is. Box 16 inches, pro. Let us know if you have questions. We'll walk through some of the specs as well. What? We're doing it, but, um, and so, you know, just this is a hefty box, really. Half of that is that's a sturdy, sturdy, but you pay the big bucks for it is an apple. Oh, that's nice. That's a collector's edition box. Um, take a look here as well. All right, So 16 inch MacBook pro. Um, this takes the place of the 15 inch back with pro s. Oh, that's no, no longer something that's old. And it's similar in size and in just look, you know. Yeah, This is not like, Have you seen a recent Mac wit pro. This is not right. It's not that dissimilar to what you're going to see you. Um, but it is quite different. There's a lot of new changes about it. So let's just get this open, okay? Then we'll take a look at what else is in the box to here in a minute. Oh, yeah. Um, actually, let's just do that. Now, I think I think we've got a charger, which is, of course, U S B C. Yep. And, um, this is and laptops the size don't typically aren't typically power just by U. S. B. C. This is one of the few that is a powerful laptop that actually does us peace. How fast is it charged for that? I don't know why. I just don't know. Yeah, but it is. It is quite an achievement that right? A powerful laptop can actually just fully charged by U. S. B. C. Anyways, here we go, Mac Book pro. Um, exactly how it would be if you were getting us at home and setting it up. And one of the first things you get is ah, Syria Training is talking to you. Um But there is the 16 inch screen, which is a big deal. Bez ALS are smaller, Um, on the on the sides, which is nice. It's been a long time since we've gotten some kind of an update in terms of that, Yeah, it looks a little bit more modern, but again, sitting next to a 15 inch Michael, probably pretty similar. Inside's a little bit taller but similar in size. So that's what you should expect. Other than that, like the body of it, it's It's a little heavier, I think. I think it's just £0.3. Have your something like that. It's a hefty it to have to get a little thicker than the 15 15 inch MacBook Pro. I'm talking to us. Um, one thing I just use there is the physical escape key, and that's something that was missing right? That is something that was removed from the past three years of MacBook pros. But with this one, a big thing is the new keyboard. Physical escape key is something that people complained a lot about. That is back. Another thing that's back is the this arrangement of the Arrow keys. Little little thing, but It's kind of a callback to 2015 era MacBook pros, but the keyboard itself is the big deal, as right talked about extensively these keyboards. In the past few years of mackerel, pros have just been a huge issue for Apple and for just the daily person who, like Bison MacBook Pro and then has a ah, keyboard that doesn't work that stops working to try to bring it in. They can't fix it, you know, And it's one of those things with Apple where you know they really do. They designed amazing products. We all know that. But that's something that was such a sticking point for so many people. It really waas. And when you have that, that's, you know, that's what you're actually physically touching all the time. It may seem like a keyboard. Who cares what it really is? An issue. It's your main experience with the device, you know, and frustrating the type on it. Yeah, when you pay $2500 for a laptop, you don't want right keyboard, too, just like, you know, fail on you. So this is a it's It's a new keyboard, but it is kind of going back to the old style uses a different switch that is a little more standard. Call the scissor switch on the feel of it. I really I've got to get to type on a different unit a little bit. And I really like the fuel of this keyboard. It's It's not like those super thin travel ones like the other Mac Mac pros, but it does have some of the It's a little more clicky than your typical keyboards. I really like this keyboard. I think a lot of everybody's gonna really enjoy this. It's like a familiar keyboard that everyone's gonna be comfortable with. So and I'm noticing to the speakers. I mean, this is a pretty big speakers. Yeah, and I'm really excited to try these out. So, um, the 15 inch macro pro always had a good set of speakers. They always looked like this, but this is an upgrade over the the previous model. So it's kind of like the best these air. There's already some of the best speakers on the laptop you get, and the idea that they're even better is really I'm kind of interested to know how many people still actually use their speakers regularly. Yeah, just parent with some headphones. I do all the time. Still, really. But I don't know if I'm if I'm normal, just just on, you know, commuting. What? He has to listen to what? You're what? Ho, My youth and I use them all the time. That's yeah, but, I mean, if you're gonna get if you gotta pay this, you know, you want top of the line Totally. Definitely something, uh, something. And the price is important. Because when this thing was being rumored because of these extra features and you know what? We thought it was gonna be like we thought this was gonna be an expensive form or expensive version of the 15 inch backroom percent, right? The fact that this replaces it and it comes in at the same price as it used to be, you know, that's that's good for everyone. That's a big deal. Yeah, yeah, but this is, you know, an expensive it is starts at 24 99. I believe maybe 2400 andan obviously scales up from there quite a bit because you've got options for what? This has a core I 98 cores um, which is a super powerful processor thes have new graphics cards? Well, from a m. D. You can't even get We talked about this on the show before, but you can get up Thio 64 gigabytes of Ram. Get eight terabytes of SST storage. Terrible stove. Just so mind boggling to me. Eight terabytes of storage. Yeah, this, um, which that gets up to about that $6000 level. I've seen a lot of people hosting where, like, it's $6000 from this new laptop, which Yeah, for that. Very tough for you. That's not the entry point. I think there's been some confusion for some people have seen posting anyway, about that. Ooh, I like that. That's audition with Okay, now I'm definitely yes. So that you that's the touch bar at the top, which is kind of famous on this guy, right? It is important though the storage because this isn't a laptop. You can go in and swap things out. You can't do really anything on your own. You can't add storage or add ram or anything like that. What you pay for and your initial purchase is what you get. So there's no expansion like older. Older. Okay, so that's it. That's yeah. That's why it's important that you save up all your money. If you're gonna buy this thing, make sure you get the version that you actually want, especially in terms of storage and RAM. Because there's no upgrade, there's no upgrading. So that's a That's a big commitment. It is. It is, Yeah, But, you know, I think I think people have known that about Apple for a while that they just like, that's their thing. That's how they do it. Yeah, but you know, I can't wait to really test this out because in a lot of ways, is going back to a lot of the things that people love about the banquet pro. So, uh, yeah, whether or not that will deliver on that we wait and see. But, uh, it's pretty promising. I'll say that. Wow, it's Ah, it's awesome. And then, you know, this is what we get to do. Here on the show is Unbox. These things look brings in these awesome computers. We get to see what it's like and get that experience of what it's like. And we've got reviews up right way. Don't have the will review of this quite yet, but we've got some. We got number of stories up already. Yeah, I got about the 60 inch macro. Pretty cool. Awesome. Luke, thank you so much as always. All right, Thank you for tuning in. This is digital trends live broadcasting live. We have a number of amazing guests are gonna be joining us in a lot of topics to cover here on the show. As we always do. Next, though we have Drew printed was gonna join us to talk about Starling. All of those satellites that are going up to 30,000 I believe. Well, there's, I think, 120 so far, and astronomers are already not very happy about it. So what is the effect gonna have when it comes to astronomy and our telescopes and what we can find out about about space? Well, we're gonna cover a lot of that coming up next, and we're live in. Take your comments. Your questions. So drop those in wherever you're watching back in a minute. With more digital trends. Live Apollo 11 years go for separation. TV is making history again. Groundbreaking Samsung que Led eight k. Welcome back to digital trends live. I'm Greg Nibbler. Thanks for joining us again. Hit that subscribe button. Wherever you're watching that, we get the notifications when we go live. And today we have with us Mr Drew. Print. Hello, Drew. What up? Um, we're gonna talk about astronomy and space, and in particular, this whole thing that's going on with Starling, this idea of space Internet that where we may even be getting some of it next year. You don't understand, but it takes a lot of satellites to do that. And it turns out that's an issue. Yeah, for people. Can you give us a recap on just for everybody off? What? Starling? Yes. Oh, StarLink is Space X's plan to basically blanket the earth in, like, free, reliable. I don't know if it's actually be free, but just like right, broadband, Internet all over the globe, with no like ground based infrastructure, they're going to deliver it from a huge network of satellites which, in theory I mean could be tremendous because there's so many parts of the globe. And I think a lot of people forget about this that don't have broadband access. This would mean you could have broadband access anywhere in theory, anywhere on Earth which could open up all kinds of economic opportunities. Just information opportunities. I mean, there's so much that could happen with that. And that's that part of It's cool. Yeah, So there's like, all these huge potential potential upsides. But then, like the Maur, the deeper we get into this in the more satellites he launches, the more we realize, Oh, there might be some unforeseen problems that are popping up. And the one that you hear about the most is space junk. Right now, everybody's really worried because you see those animations. I think we've probably got one. But where, You know, the satellites are just whizzing past each other in this crazy like lattice formation. And you're like if one of those crashes, it's going to just mess up all the rest of them, and then we're gonna be trapped under this giant umbrella of space junk, and we won't be able to launch stuff, right, because even just a tiny little piece going thousands of mouths. Yeah, it has, like, the the inertia of like a freight train. Basic right could knock a hole in the space station or something. Yeah, and that's That's a big issue. But one of the issues, the other issue that we just put up an article about on digital trends is about what this is doing to astronomy. The last time that they launched a bunch of satellites, the astronomical community kind of got up in arms because they're like, You're messing up our you know, our telescopes and everything. Because when you put a bunch of satellites in the air, it's basically a bunch of tiny, little like mirrors that are reflecting stuff like you and I to the naked eye. We're not going to really notice that. But if you've got like a telescope that's like that sign to take in as much light as possible, it's gonna pick up on those little flecks of light, right? Especially when astronomers are taking long exposures of like, really distant, faint Galaxies and stars himself like that. Um, and these satellites are messing that up, and so, you know, they got up in arms of the last launch, and then this most recent one, the I think a lot more from kind of jumped onboard or like listen We need to do something about this because it is. If they succeed in their goal and they get like, you know, like 30,000 satellites in the night sky, it really might bring about the death of, like, ground based astronomy, which that's, that's, I mean, a huge thing to think about right now. There's, what, 120 of them that they've launched? Yeah, that's an additional. The other satellites that are out there, that 120 it's already causing issues. 30,000 satellites. So what are some of the ramifications of that? If if we you know of ground based astronomy, we're not not be happening, you know? What would that mean? So, like initially when we reached out to the astronomer guy that we talked to like we thought, as people who are not astrophysicists were like whatever, what's so special about like ground based astronomy? Why can't we just have, like more Hubble telescopes in like orbital space telescopes right on? And the reason that that doesn't make sense is because a there are way more ground based telescope, a raise and just observation places. Then there are space telescopes, and that's because they cost way lest and we can build them bigger and make them more sophisticated on the ground. So in order to take our observational capabilities that we currently have on the ground and reproduce them in space, it would cost billions upon billions of dollars. Because you can't put something the size of a ground based observatory up in space. You have to shrink it down. You have to develop it. You have to have to get it in space in the first place. So there are just so many huge hurdles. So basically, if we remove ground based observation from the equation, we're not going to get it back. Yeah, and that's it because because, I mean, once you put the holes up, Yeah, there's that kind of a demonstration. I know there was a picture of how the streaks in this, Yeah. Showcasing all those streaks, just screwing up that that footage. I mean, if you think about earlier earlier this year, I believe it was where we have the array of of ground based telescopes that took that picture of the black hole. Yeah, first time. But that was a huge amalgamation of all of these different ground based telescopes. So in theory, all those will be wiped out. Yeah. I mean, like, not necessarily wiped out. There would still be, like, ways to do it, but it's just gonna be way Maur department difficult. Well, what are the solutions? What is what? Starling proposed anything or if they had any response? No, I don't think they're too concerned with this right now because their goal is to, you know, get this this network up so they can blanket the earth in broadband Internet. That's their goal, which is a good gold have, right, like, right? Can't fault him for that. But they're not the ones thinking about the ramifications of it. I think this is gonna fall on the shoulders of governments and not just any one particular government. I mean, obviously, it's a U. S based company, but like, it's a problem that affects, like, the whole globe. It affects satellites and telescopes like, you know, yeah, everywhere. Yeah, which is what I mean. And the thing is, Starling's not even the only one. No. There's other companies that Amazon's talked about blue origins. Talk about it. One web, I think, is wanting to do it our own way, a UK based organization. So if everybody starts doing it, that's even more than just the 30,000. That's 50,000 satellites will say or something like that. I mean, that's a lot of satellites he answered with. So basically, that's that's kind of what this article that we just published is all about. It's like we should really start making some rules about this before the problem gets out of hand. Yeah, it's kind of the same thing you hear when people talk about space junk. It's like these are problems that are really impose, like an existential threat to either astronomy or just our ability to put stuff up in orbit. So if there's that many, I mean just even navigating that, Yeah, yeah, basically, that's a huge issue. So really, we should start being proactive about this and like making rules and making sure we don't just screw up everything in the future. That's something that, you know humanity has never done before, which is, you know, tall orders and that Yeah, in the future. So, um so, yeah, we'll have to see where it goes. But, I mean, I'm looking forward to reading that articles. That's up today. It's up on the site, right up on the site right now. So take a look at that and let us know what you think. I mean, it's it's again. It's like you said, it's something that we need to think about. It may not be in an issue quite yet, but the ramifications are enough. That commercial, the commercial space industry is is just advancing so quickly that yet we do need to get some rules in place and some understanding of what the ramifications are. If it's not in check 100%. Well, you can check that out at digital trends dot com. Take a look there and and let us know what you think about that. And we always keep you up to date on everything going on in tech but definitely on space. In the commercial space industry, we have so many articles on that drew, thank you as always, bringing us up to date on that, and we're gonna bring you up to date on a lot more. We're gonna take a break here when I'm coming back with more digital trends live, we're gonna actually be heading toward New York studio. We've got a great interview coming up, so stick around back in a minute with more digital trends. Life 11 years go for separation TV is making history again. Groundbreaking Samsung Que ele e d eight k Welcome back to digital trends live. I'm Greg Nibbler. Thanks for joining us. I'm here in our Portland, Oregon studio and, as always, want to keep you up to date on technology and hot topics that are going on right now in tech and definitely password security, our cyber security. That is a huge, huge issue. Right now, I have no matter whether it's a company or whether it's an individual, something that we all need to be concerned with. And right now we're gonna be heading to our New York studio, where our editor in chief, Jeremy Caplan, is standing by with Darren Guccione, who's the CEO and co founder of Keeper Security. Talk about those issues and more Jeremy I handed off to you. Take it away. Thank you and good morning. Yes, we're here to talk about cyber security and issues that you're going to face this holiday season. Especially black Friday. Cyber Monday, right? around the corner. What can you do to protect yourself? What sort of risks are out there you should be aware of? I don't have the answers. But fortunately there, in Gucci. And he does thank you very much for joining us, sir. You're welcome. So top level question. Are we looking at more problems this year than in years past? Do we see that there are issues that people are facing? Absolutely. So this year for the holiday season, you're going to see an elevated number of cyberattacks, phishing scams, gift cards, scans and the like. You tell me about this gift card scam before maybe walk our readers through what? That our viewers through what exactly? That is sure, So you'll get an email. Let's say you're the CEO of a company. You get an email from someone CEO of a company. I got a promotion. You heard it right? So you get you get an email from someone that works with you, and it says, You know, um, I received an email from your limit. You know, CVS and they they get any mail. It's not you, but they think it is, and they say Go to CVS and buy $1000 of gift cards. And when you get them, scratch the numbers off an E. Mail them back to me. I need to buy something for a very important customer immediately, immediately. So that person, because they trust you and they follow your directive, they run the CVS. They send back the numbers for the cards, and they don't realize that you're not you. You're actually a cyber criminal. So that's a very popular scam that's happening right now and just a really low tech scam. Also just a super low tech, super low tech. So standard fishing. It's not just about getting log in credentials, but now it's targeting. Go get some gift cards and give me the codes and you think you're doing the right thing. But you don't realize that in the email address itself, it says your name. But if you actually look at the from address, yep, it's clearly not your email account. I feel like people should know better than to click on this. I feel like I should know better than to click on this, And yet people always fall for these things, and it doesn't like many right. It takes 234 people out of the 10 million that get a phishing scam for a profitable Yeah, and it's very profitable, and they're earning billions of dollars off of these types of scams. It's not just on the cards side, but on the wire side. Right? The prepaid visa cards is a big one, so look out for that and there's some other. There's several other tips we can cover. Two for the holidays. You sent me some facts from the Ponemon Institute, which is a research facility covering the cyber security industry. Absolutely 72% of retailers have experienced an attack in their in their lifetime. 61% of retailers experiences cyber attack in the past 12 months. 50% of retailers don't have a response plan. It feels like businesses and consumers should be more aware of this problem at this point, shouldn't they? Absolutely, and it's ah, it's growing. It's not like it's shrinking or it's consistent. It's growing their low hanging fruit for cyber criminals because they know that most of the time it deals with passwords and stolen passwords and passwords that are so simply too weak and reused on multiple websites and applications. So they just go after, you know, droves of different individuals on the consumer side. And then, of course, the retailers on the commerce side course and pastures. Of course. That's where Keeper security comes in, right? What? Why don't you walk us through what you guys are? S O keeper? You know, Keeper, we make a leading passwords Security products. It's a vault that runs on every smartphone tablet, and computer generates high strength random passwords for all your websites and applications so that you're not reusing weak passwords. You're using a high strength, unique password for every single website that you shop on, and it's very safe. And then we bolster it with two factor authentication, which is an additional security method that's used to make sure that you are who you say you are. So it helps prevent what we call a remote data breach by 1/3 party, so it's very powerful. So there's one very clear reason that people reuse passwords, and it's it's something called friction right, the challenge of creating a new password, the challenge of memorizing it, writing it down on a piece of paper. If that's what you do, it just feels like a lot to keep in mind. So this is just one simple way to avoid that kind of, Yeah, and it's It's beautiful because you don't have to remember in your passwords, and it's actually faster. So, for example, when I want to access my Amazon account, I just go into my keep revolt. I go to the Amazon record. I clicked the Earl It Auto logs me in within seconds, and there's nothing for me to think about. I'm in. I'm secure. I'm ready to shop by doing my business. I log out and I move on. So I mentioned the word friction because one of the challenges, I think password managers like Keeper face the challenge of initially setting things up. Can you walk through what that's like? Because, sure, copying and pasting these strings of alphanumeric, it feels kind of challenging it. So the good news is, is that we've made on boarding really simple. So most people tend to store passwords in their browser. So the first thing that keepers going to do when you install the software, it's going to grab and identify all of those passwords that are stored unsecure Lee, by the way, in your browser, and they're going to pull them into the vault, remove them from the browser, pull them directly into the keep revolt to generate all of those initial records. Then, when you're on boarding, there's, ah, highly curated, very simple on boarding process to get you well on your way so that the most common websites are already dictionary in the system itself, so that setting up what we call your keeper records is is really painless and fast. And then there's just this one master password that you really have to memorize. And that's I don't think it's asking too much of people, right? One thing you have to remember otherwise, and if you forget it, you're not a look. Yeah, well, we have a zero knowledge security model, meaning without, um, with very little difficulty, you can contact support and go through a self service process to restore your account. So if you forget your master password, we have, ah, beautiful recovery process toe help you along and solve that problem. So that's that's on the technology side, and I would say two on the biometric side. Most devices today whether it's an Draeger iPhone or even Windows devices they support, you know, either Ratner fingerprint scan, and so you can utilize that technology in our product as well and log in, you know, with your fingerprint within seconds. So we started out by saying that there were a lot of scams and hustles that people are gonna face this holiday shopping season. Anything people should watch out for is black Friday rolls around. You know, they're scrambling to find deals. Are there things there that can alert them that there might be a scam out there? Yeah, like when your first of all, when you're surfing and you're connected, avoid public WiFi hot spots, especially ones that are free. Um, connect through your device. You have a personal hot spot on your phone. Those air way more secure used. That's a great point. If you're in a public setting than when you're on the Web, make sure that the websites that you're going to our https protected that means hypertext transfer protocol over secure socket layer. Fancy right. It just means that everything that you're doing is encrypted. You're in a secure connection, and the information is being sent back and forth between you, your terminal and that website is also encrypted. That's really important. And then be vigilant, you know, avoid and be aware of the phishing email scams, right? Those sales that, um, seem a little odd to you, you know, things that are 90% off. You go to a website and you look at the actual website address and you think it. It's supposed to say, Let's say, you know, um ebay dot com and and the girl is really odd, and eBay winds up being at the very end of it. You know, there's a problem. So you know, it's it's always about trust and verify shop where you typically shop and make sure again that you're using, you know, really strong connectivity to get onto the web. And when you're on these websites, look for that https connection. Some good tips. Thank you. So one last question for you if I hear Darren, uh, it feels like we've been facing the same challenges for years. It doesn't even feel like some of the challenges are evolving. The thing about the phishing scam, for example, um, we're always gonna have fishing. Do you think that we're getting ahead of the criminals out there are just gonna Are we just gonna be in this constant race to keep pace with these guys? Is there any way to get to beat? The battle doesn't win about Well, I'm not a pessimist or protagonist, so I would say it's getting better slowly on the education site. It's getting better. Yeah. The problem is that the rates of education in the public domain versus the rates of technology and advancement and pervasiveness of cyber criminals they're two different vectors. The cybercriminals are advancing at a faster pace, and that's the problem. So we have to continue to become more aware, more vigilant and more engaged in a cyber security mindset. It has to start with that. And, you know, I think if you take a look at the technologies that are out there today, they've gotten really easy to use. They don't make you just more secure, but they make you more productive. They make you actually transact faster online were Traditionally security tends to be an inverse path to productivity. They fight each other. The good solutions out there, whether its keeper or many of the others that we see in other industries their unifying convenience and security. So that's what we're we work really hard to do in our company. You heard it here. There's gonna be challenges this holiday, and the solution is up to you. Go to keep her security dot com. You can download this software, and it will make things a lot better. I don't want to hear anybody using password as their password ever again. That means, you know, passwords as passwords. They're in. Good. Show me. Thank you very much for joining us. Well, we got lots more tech coming up after this short break. Please do stick around. Uh, Apollo 11 years go for separation. TV is making history again. Groundbreaking Samsung Que Led eight K and welcome back to digital trends live. Thanks for joining us for broadcast. Laugh here every weekday, Nana Pacific Noon Eastern. So that subscribe button and get the update when we do go live and we like to talk about technology would like to keep you updated on things that are going to affect you With black Friday and cyber Monday coming up, we're all gonna be doing a lot of shopping But, you know, when you check out, you see those notifications. Sometimes get that extended warranty or get that extra coverage. We're gonna talk about that and Trans Am or joining us. Right now we have Woodrow 11 the CEO and founder of Extend. Thank you so much for joining us. Thanks for having me. So I want to give everybody just a walk through on what extend is so you can tell us that Yeah, absolutely So extended an AP I first solution that allows any merchant offer extended warranties protection plans on the products they sell. So think of us is apple care for everything not dissimilar from what a firm and Bread and Clark have done for consumer point of sale financing we're doing for extended warranties protection. So if you think about it like when you're buying something from, you know, best Buy, for example, it's It's like, you know you want to get this extended warranty on this. Get the two years coverage. You can do that for pretty much any company. Exactly. S o. The top 1% of merchants today, Greg, all offer extended warranties and protection plans, and that's best buy cost girl Wayfair, Amazon and where we probably all see that the problems is that 99% of the market was completely unattached and consumers weren't getting that peace of mind that they get when they could add an extended warranty. Check out. So say it just to walk through this side before we talk about just the general trend of shopping and everything going on with that, like, say, so there's a small business. They make some special custom headphones. They come to you and say, We want to do an extended warranty. How do they do that? What's that process like? So we work with. We work with insurance companies on the back end who actually underwrite the risk you can think of extends the technology enabled broker as well as the administrator. We were fortunate to acquire a business from a on the $43 billion insurance broker recently where we became a fully authorized administrator. So we control the customer experience from start to finish. That's the unique thing about extended. We're making sure that it's a digitally native customer experience for extended warranties. It's never been seen, so basically democratizes that that use of that these big, huge companies able to do now everybody can do it absolutely. It really levels the playing field because it allows the small emergence of the director. Consumer merchants are extremely popular over the holidays to increase their margin at its sale, as well as give customers more peace of mind. Because when you know that there's 1/3 party standing behind that product, if something does go wrong, how is the general feeling in the marketplace? And with some of the feedback that you've gotten about extended warranties? Because I know sometimes people are like, Oh, no, you know, it's just it's rip off. You're spending too much money on that. You don't need that. And that's something people opening of what it is. How do you respond to that? So we hear that, and that's one of the reasons that we did Start. Extend is the customer experience around extended warranties today is broke. They're full of gotchas. You have to have a copy paper receipt. I don't know when the last time I've saved we're actually all for a claim we don't use. We don't use the telephone to make a phone call to make a dinner reservation or call a taxi. So why should I not be able to text in a claim? Do it just get S o. I agree with the people who have said extended warranties need to breathe, modernized and improved. And that's what we're focused on. Well being involved in so many different facets of retail and especially, you know, particularly online retail. With Black Friday coming up cybermonday happening. We're seeing so much reporting on it already, and particularly in the tech industry. I mean, we're definitely on top of it here in digital trends. What are some of the trends that you're seeing from your end when it comes to that as far as what shopping trends people are that you're noticing? Yes, sir. So I'm really seeing three, and I think you hit on the 1st 1 It's It's almost like the pre pre pre black Friday sale you're seeing. You think merchants get out of this way earlier than we've ever seen me for. It's sort of like your neighbor who puts up the Christmas lights right after the end of May, So getting customers to make that purchasing decision earlier is what a lot of merchants are trying to do. Second thing that I'm saying is a lot of companies that sell direct to consumer as well as through Amazon and other third party sites are creating limited edition. Or he spoke products that are only available at their website. So this is to get customers to come directly to them so they can establish that 1 to 1 relationship. And last but certainly not least, we're seeing a R N V R start to play a role in holiday purchasing a pallet on the cycling and treadmill company as an amazing teacher in the mobile website. Don't even need to download an app. Well, I'll actually show you in your room where the bike or the tread models that I just think it's super innovative and will help people in the purchasing journey. That's really interesting when I touch on just a couple of things that you just brought up there so tight about how we're seeing this pre presale, and it seems like every year it just starts early in earlier and earlier. You know, it's like when we start seeing Christmas commercials in September. Whatever. Now this Black Friday cyber Monday thing is just extended so far. What do you see that going like saying, say, next year, The year after that, It's just gonna be one giant black Friday, six months Or where we heading with that? Yeah, I mean it. Everyone loves a good deal, right When we see that, I think that merchants are always going to use that as the lead and to get customers to their site. No matter when we see it, I think it's gonna continue to be popular. They'll come up with different names for it. The merchants will will have in a pre black Friday sale. That's official, but I think that trend will just continue. Thio permeate. Unlike and you mentioned, they are in V R being Ah, big thing that's being incorporated in now. And I find that very fascinating Just to see that technology expand, we've talked a lot about augmented reality in some different ways. That's being utilized. You mentioned pellet in what are some of the other ways Maybe that you're seeing it being incorporated in, or that you could see retailers doing absolutely so with sunglasses. You see it a lot, too. You can virtually put on a pair of sunglasses and see how they look on your face. Because again, that's something that you probably do wanna try on before you buy. There's Ah, company called Unstuck It, which you actually put your phone down. You spin around, it measures your body's so that shirt could be perfectly fit to you. So again, with the advent of the extremely strong processors in our mobile phone and the powerful cameras that we have, I don't think we're gonna Seymour and more of the ability to create that in person shopping experience online. Well, going back to talking about these trends, you know, we've been talking about some of the big ones, Amazon and Wal Mart. It's certainly a huge player in this, best by big companies like that. What are some of these smaller companies doing? Obviously, being able to extend warranties is huge. What are some other ways that they can? They're competing with some of these huge chains, so I mean obviously being able to offer extended warranties to increase their margin on the sale, as well as give customers peace of mind when it purges eyes, something that is very important. We seeing a 30% uptick in warranty attached rate as we've gotten closer to the holidays. So we're seeing a lot of consumers say I don't just want to buy a gift. That's consumer electronics, jewellery and watches, sports and fitness equipment. I want to make sure that that gift is protected if it should turn into do just a paperweight at some point. Well, one of the other huge trends that we can't ignore is $1.2 trillion has been spent this year in buy. Now pay later. I mean, that's truly affirmed. Right corner. These companies have taken something that was, you know, on the fringes layaway and made it almost sexy and something that why wouldn't you? That's interesting. So layaway, something that's on, I guess maybe it didn't never really go away. But now something that's a prominent strategy, absolutely. It's it's It's modern. It's become cool. People are much more rare layer of their finances these days. People are renting instead of buying, they're aware of interest rates and more S O. I think even more educated consumer and their understanding the value of the purchased something at a 0% or even one or 2%? Yeah, Going back to the extended warranty side of things and going back to extend itself. You know, you're you're working with a lot of the smaller businesses, which really does. As we said, they're getting help, democratize that process and give customers of satisfaction more revenue for the businesses themselves. Where do you see that going? As you make this just easier process going forward, how are you incorporating more technology into that? To make that an easier process? Yes. Oh, way initially started off by building a Shopify at eso Any merchant shop if I can plug into us click. We quickly understood that some of the larger merchants was doing 23 400 even a $1,000,000,000 more in revenue wanted to do direct FBI integrations. It's easier for us to do a direct a deny integration, that it is a shop. My integration just because of all the themes that happen on shop. That being said, we do have a magenta, uh, cartridge as well as a sales force. Commerce cartridges. Well, so we're going across all off the e commerce platform. You could integrate once touch money as well as direct integrations with large emergence. Mean today we touch over $12 billion in annualized sales, looking at some of the products that people would do it. I mean, physical products do make sense. You know, you talk about like we mentioned headphones or television or something like that. What are some of the more interesting products that people maybe could get extended warranties for our protection plans that they're not thinking about right now? No, I mean some jewelry and watches. It's It's really interesting. If you buy a luxury, watch you. Obviously, you're making a big investment there for 10 to 15% of the purchase price. You can make sure that that watches protected if something should happen. What's really interesting is there's ah extended warranty and protection plan program called Accidental Damage in Handling. And that means if my 17 month old son chase my one more headphones and throws them in the toilet, which is obviously never happened that I would act. I would get those headphones back for free so it protects against sort of human fallibility. It's not just your your old school. Extending the life of time of the manufacturer's warranty protects against human areas. Well, nice. That is something that I would definitely be the person I've never dropped a phone shattered, anything ever. Uh, what would I want to say? Thank you so much for joining us to talk about this. And for people who want to get involved with company. What's the best place I can send them One. Thanks for having me, Dragon. Just extend dot com. I were super fortunate. Were able thio purchase extend dot com. So we're not Hello? Extend anymore. Uh, extend dot com They can find out more about the company. Yeah, we're harboring a lot of people right now and sort of hyper growth mode. So excited to spend some time with you today. Thank you. Nice. Thanks so much for joining us here in digital trends live. All right, so really interesting. Talking about that, you know, as we go forward with our shopping experience, is different ways to accent that and extend extended warranties protection plans. Certainly we've all dropped something now and then. So So this could actually be a huge benefit to a lot of people, but really interesting stuff. That's what we do here. Digital trends. We bring you interviews with all kinds of tech innovations and leaders. And right now we take a break. We're gonna come back. We're gonna talk about some more tech. I got some trending stories I want to bring you up to date on, including a new form of alternative energy or at least advancement that we've never seen before. This was just released. Really exciting stuff. All that more coming up on digital trends live 11 years go for separation. TV is making history again. Groundbreaking Samsung Que ele e d eight k. Welcome back to digital trends live. I'm Greg Nibbler. Thanks for joining us. And we have all kinds of tech that we cover here on digital trends. We're bringing interviews. You've got more coming up. Gonna be heading to our New York studio shortly, But let me bring you up to date on some under other trending tech topics. Right now, this one is huge and it has to do with the company that's been in stealth mode. That was just revealed. The Bill Gates backed company called Helio Jen, and they've done something pretty incredible for the very first time. We're talking about solar energy. So solar power. Obviously, that's not the breakthrough just in itself. But how much solar power we can concentrate into. One specific point is what we're talking about. So for a long time, and there's other companies have worked on this of taking essentially a whole bunch of mirrors, pointing it towards one point. And then you're able to heat that up to an extreme to an extremely hot temperature. And that is then you can use that to generate all kinds of power, and you can do it a lot more than just what a standard solar panel would be able to able to collect. Well, now this team was able to get something a point up to 1000 degrees Celsius, which is the first time that's ever happened. That is, essentially, you can get it up to roughly 1/4 of what you'd find on the surface of the sun. That's how hot they were able to get this one point thio, and that once you're able to do that, there's a lot of big things that happen. So there's a key thing with 1000 degrees Celsius, that is how hot you have to get things in order to make steel and cement. And that is, Ah, huge, huge use of energy. When it comes to what we're doing, we're why there's no shortage of demand for steel and cement, right? I mean, that's what we need to build everything. Well, now that we can get something up that hot, this is the first time that solar power has been able to do this. That means we're taking a renewable energy source instead of using coal that we have to do before oil or anything else and able to get it to that point to where we can make that. So if they're able to do that, they're estimating this is taking a look at some of statistics that this company has said that while cement right now accounts for 7% of global CEO two emissions, that is a huge amount. 7% is do just to cement. I think if you can take that out of the mix if you could, you could make this power and get something hot enough Using solar power, you remove that. You remove that as a factor. Some of the other statistics that they were talking about just bringing that up. You know that. They're saying that if they could do this, I can make glass, cement, other industrial processes, Another big thing that they want to do. They said that all. Here's what it is. These industries are responsible for more than 1/5 of global emissions, so just give you a little bit of a broader con context there. The next thing they want to do, though, is to be able thio. Essentially, the long term goal is to make hydrogen so hydrogen being pretty much a mission lis admission list When it comes to burning. When it comes to being used as a fuel, it's being utilized in California right now. In some cars, there's, I think Hawaii also has it, but this is the kind of like the golden goose, really, when it comes down to it of making hydrogen and using renewable energy to make, it would be a tremendous That's something that they could in theory be able to do. And they said that this is what they're going for. So take a look at one of their spokespeople, he said. If you could make it, if you make hydrogen that's green, that's a game changer. Long term, we want to be the green hydrogen company. So big announcement. Huge when it comes that again, this company called Helio Jen, and this is a Bill Gates backed fund. Bill Gates backs a lot of different companies that are trying to work to attack, whether it's climate change or medical industry. So he's got a lot of funds that go out there. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. This is one of the companies that Bill Gates is backing just coming out of that stealth plans. So we don't even know everything that they've been working on. But we do know this and again. That's Helio Jen really fascinating use. There's a lot more than sure it's gonna be coming out about it. About the technology we can read about that at digital trends dot com, I continue on with some other trending stories. Here's mother topics to cover. Let's talk about using artificial intelligence to uncover things right in front of our eyes. Now, here on this show, we've discussed the use of light are before light. Are we actually talked about that a few times recently? How wide are is being able to use to scan the surface of the globe. You can discover things that weren't there before, based on topography and different ways, that we're able to see that say Aye city that was hidden, an ancient city that was hidden in the jungle that you would never find just by on the ground looking. This is something you'd be able to see through the sky with this new technology, while utilizing some of that kind of technology and extrapolating with artificial intelligence is what's being done right now in Peru. And it just uncovered a GL. If that was previously unknown, no. So these were scientists, actually, from Japan, from university in Japan, Yamagata University that we're using artificial intelligence to examine images that we are already seeing. And they're doing this in coordination with IBM as well and right there. So if you're just looking that with the naked eye, sure, if we didn't already know that's there, you could see it. But that's something that was previously undiscovered. It's a whole cliff in Peru, and if you don't know what the cliffs are in Peru, there gigantic, they're gigantic images that were created on the ground that you can only really see from this guy. How they were able to do that is pretty incredible. That's a whole other discussion on how the ancient Peruvians were able to do that. But we're finding out more and more of these, and so what they're going to be doing with that one that they discovered. And I think we've got another image of it to take a look at of of what it is that they found. This is just one of them now what this cliff means. What what it what it implies. You know, it's hard to say again. That's kind of showcasing some more of that awesome or ideas of more glitz that you can see only really from the sky and and and and just how they were able to do those things again, still kind of a mystery. But this is a job lift. Number 1 43 is one of the ones that they discovered and what they're gonna be doing now with this technology is taking 10 years of data, 10 years of aerial imagery just in this Nazca desert and analyzing that to see what else that can bring out and that's all due to artificial intelligence. It's another really interesting use case of it as we see more and more. Aye, aye, algorithms being applied to different, different things, different fields of study. This these are the kind of things that we're gonna find, and that's a great use of it. There's no way human. I mean, maybe if you spent hours and hours and hours of your lifetime going over that maybe you would be able to pick something out like that. But this way I could pick it out just like that. And we'll have to see what other kinds of things we can discover with all the data that we already have just by running it through artificial intelligence algorithms and seeing what we come up with. But that's a really cool use case right there again. That's a study from Japan and coordination with IBM, and they're gonna be going through all of those that desert imagery to see what else they confined. Really cool. You can read more about that at digital trends dot com. All right, one final thing here before we go to a break. That's more interviews coming up for you. Actually got really great when I'm gonna tell you about it here in just a second. Before that, though, let's talk about some crazy robots. So this is what we have today coming from Berkeley, and we see a lot of our robotic stories are actually coming from universities where they're doing different studies. You have companies like Boston Dynamics, but places like Berkeley and M I T. They're definitely at the forefront of this. So this is from Berkeley's hybrid robotics program We're looking at right. There is kind of an ostrich looking robot juggling the ball on its headless body, so that's actually what's happening. So there's a few things here that are pretty important when we're looking at this video that I've got another one I'm gonna show here in just a minute. So it's bouncing up and down a bouncing that ball on there that's is important for a few reasons in the way it's working is it's actually using an external camera. That's the only thing external on it to watch itself and watch that ball bounce up and down. What it's the bigger picture of what it's doing is it's it's multitasking. Several different things at the same time. And that's the key. That's the key to the future of robotics. To be ableto handle multiple inputs, multiples, stimuli, multiple things that are going on and and to manage them effectively. So you have this robot that's able to bounce this ball a bit down there, working on two were convinced to, but it keeps the ball on that platform while that about balancing on its legs pretty incredible. Now we're studying that they're also studying different things with this particular robot. And by the way, I forgot. How dare I forget to give you the name of Robot? It's Cassie. Cow. Cassie. Cow is the name of that robot. So they're Here we go. This is another instance of humans messing with robots Were somewhere down the lines gonna be bad for humans, But whether tried to do is just throw it off, pal pits. They put out a pallet and then shake it up and see how much they can keep that robot on its feet. Do you see how long that'll last again? Someday that's in the Archives of humanity. Robots will showcase this to see how terrible we were, but that's what they're doing. They're trying to trade it in order to balance in different environments. Multi task. Pretty cool use of technology that's happening at Berkeley, so I can check that out at digital trends dot com. Alright, let's do this. We're going to take a break. So I'm Greg. Never here in Portland, Oregon Studio. We're gonna take a break. We're gonna come back, We're gonna head to New York. We've got Jeremy Caplan standing by again with Sylvia Ossa Vedo, who is who is the CEO of Girl Scouts of the USA. Also former Rocket scientists, also former Executive Apple. I mean, pretty, pretty, pretty nice resume their that Sylvia has. So she's gonna be talking about this because it's Women's Entrepreneurship Day and we're gonna be talking about some studies that came out and talking about what the Girl Scouts were doing with that so really excited to have her on this show. All that's coming up. So stick around back here in a minute. With more digital trends live Apollo 11 years go for separation. TV is making history again. Groundbreaking Samsung Que ele e d eight k. Welcome back to digital trends live. I'm Greg Miller. Thank you for joining us here. That subscribe button. Wherever you're at that, we get the notifications when we do go live. And yesterday was Women's Entrepreneurship Day. Huge day. Very important things that were happening with that. And there was a really big study that came out in association with it. We're gonna be talking about that now. And our guest, Our next guest is a former rocket scientist, a former executive of Apple, and that now the CEO of Girl Scouts of the USA. It's Sylvia Acevedo, who is in our New York studio standing by with our editor in chief, Jeremy Caplan. I cannot wait to hear what you're gonna be talking about. We have a lot to cover with this. But, Jeremy, I'm gonna hand it off to you. Take it away. Thanks, Greg. You have pleasure to be here. A cz. You're saying we have a very amazing guest here. A bad ass guest. If I could say, Look, we have talked to presidential candidates. We have talked to ghost hunters. We have talked to companies and robots that will make drinks for you. Nobody. Um I'm or excited about the talking with Sylvia Azevedo. Oh, thank you so much, Jeremy. It's a real pleasure to be here. Thank you for joining us. You're the CEO of Girl Scouts of the USA. Yes, I am the proud CEO of Girl Scouts of the USA. And you have the most interesting background of any You're not who I would expect to be the CEO of the Girl Scouts. Let's just say yeah, you know, I because of Girl Scouts, I when I was a young girl, it fostered my interest in science and math, and so much so that I got so much confidence and confidence in it. I became an engineer, and then it became a rocket scientist working at NASA's Jet Propulsion Labs. But I worked on two missions. The Voyager to Mission and the Solar Polar Solar Probe. It's amazing. And then I pivoted. I went to Stanford University, right, The middle of technology, the Internet age really taking off. And so I had a great tech career on. And then I was an entrepreneur. I me and three engineers got together and sold the company, put a company together, sold it before Then I started to give back and volunteered the Girl Scouts and now on the CEO. I I wish I had 1/10 of your gumption, and all of that is amazing. I also just got my first ever Girl Scouts. Bad from Sylvia. We could do a tight shot on this and show this off, which shows off some of her history and the past the stars that helped me understand that they were constellations and planets up there. The rocket, which I made a nest, is rocket turn my science badge. And then that's not a cookie on impact is actually the planet Jupiter. Because I worked on the voyage, too, of course. And that's got my favorite math symbols. Sigma, infinity and pie. It's a great one. Yeah, it is. And I'm just so excited to be here because because of girls got that changed my life. And one of the big things was not only being in stem but also an entrepreneur, that great cookie program and we yesterday released our New Research Institute report from the Girl Scouts Research Institute about an entrepreneurial study. And it's today's girls, tomorrow's entrepreneurs. So tell me about the study. What if you guys learned so the good news is girls, more than half of the girls are interested in being an entrepreneur, and if you're in Girl Scouts, 91% of them are really interested in being an entrepreneur. I think that has to do with our great cookie program, so that's fantastic. But there was also a little bit of disappointment. 1/3 of the girls that were a studied said that gender, they really see some gender things holding them back and you know it. Girl Scouts. We really want to make sure girls have the interest, the confidence in the competence, obviously our cookie program. But it's not just the physical cookies. It's also the digital cookies. We have such great stem backgrounds and stem programs, and the world right now is being remade around technology line by line, code by code. Absolutely. We want to make sure that tomorrow's entrepreneurs are girls that see the business opportunity and have the technology skills to be able to craft solutions for tomorrow's problems. I think about scouting programs like yours is a way to teach the skills that kids need to get ahead in life these days, and so that's definitely made a huge pivot from things one needed 80 years ago. Stem being a huge part of that. You're absolutely right. You know, we're so proud of being scouts, you know, we are the Girl Scouts really focused on the girl. And we know that sometimes in our workforce we kind of double down on what worked for boys and thinking that it will be the same thing that works for girl. But our research tells us over and over. If you have a solution that girls like, they begin to have the interest, the confidence, and then the confidence. And that's one of the reasons we have so much great success with our Lums. Almost every half of the women up in space, more than half for Girl scouts thank the two women who recently did a spacewalk. They were both Girl Scout. Of course they know. Why wouldn't they way? We have continued to be Trailblazers and entrepreneurs as well. So more than half of America's business women's were girl scouts. And so we know that our iconic cookie program gives them entrepreneurial skills. But also the other things that you were talking about that is so important. The leadership project management, the collaboration, those skills that you need not just in business, but in life in life. They're also getting those those skills in today's girls guns. So I just have some facts here. Want to rule out? So May 2017 you directed largest rollout of merit badges in nearly a decade. 39 of the new 47 offerings are stem, including weather pattern analysis, space science, robotics and cybersecurity. I love that talking about cyber security because that's not something I think about is learning in a scouting program. So, you know, I really see it as we think about it is a defense issue. But if you think about it, so many people shop it a target or Home Depot, and then they get the postcard saying Oops, you know, your identity or financial information may have been compromised so suddenly it is an American pocketbook issue across America. And so we heard that from our girls. They said, We have a digital device in our hands. We want to learn how to be safe. We don't just want to learn how to program it. And, wow, we're we amazed at the reception in our first year alone, over 90 1000 over 90,000 cyber security badges were earned first year, first year, and not just in urban areas like New York or San Francisco. In Hawaii, in rural Alabama, in the deserts of Mexico. And so we were providing skills that they weren't getting in any other our any other way. And the girls told us We want Maur. So we now have programs all the way from age five all the way to 18 and they learn incredible things. So how many of us have, Ah, car that has a key fob that's electronically. You can easily open your door and start your course. Of course. Well, there are people who figured out how to do relays so that they take your wife out your your communications link and start your car without that key fob. So we teach girls. How do you protect yourself against those things that we also teach girls? And I can always know when a girl has done some programs and whatever area of the country, because I'll get notices from parents and they'll say, Oh, my daughter came home from earning her cyber badge, and she asked us. What is our WiFi protocol Passwords for our own devices. But we also teach girls and girls cats. It's not just learning the skill they have to take action. The under wonderful thing that I'm learning with our cybersecurity rollout is they go to community centers like senior centers, and they're teaching them. I've heard from senior centers they didn't know they didn't have WiFi protection. Think about people who brought there. Laptops could have lost all their influence or always want people not to use public WiFi. But that seems like a safe I know and think about it. Maybe not knowing how to put protections on your phones. Those are the kind of things we're teaching girls as well as so many other robotics and stem and life skills. We haven't forgotten about the outdoors as well, But all of those help those girls with the entrepreneurship skills they have the technical skills, the entrepreneurship skills, the business, the life skills so they will be able to create the new businesses of the future and really close that stem workforce gap that we're experiencing in America today. That's remarkable. We talk a lot about stemming the need for education in schools. But here's just another venue where we can provide that kind of education for students for girls today. Yeah, And what our research show also, that if you create the program in a way that interest girls, she will develop the interest, the confidence, and then the confidence to maintain that interest. So, you know, I love to give the example of how we teach malware two girls that are brownies driven eight year old. So instead of which information, by the way, that 40 year olds don't actually have well, everyone needs to be trained about, Yeah, about how do you pass malware? So what happens is you can talk about seven level protocol, stack and communications and the first level of physical, or we're talking 278 year old girls. We get them to sit in a circle and talk. They love to do that, get a ball of yarn, the past of all of yarn as they talk to one another, and then we show them that's a physical network. And then, in addition to that, if one girl on the network had a virus, that's how the virus spread. Suddenly, you get the concept like that in a way that you say, I know how to do this. I've got the interest, the confidence and now I'll work on the confidence. And you were saying before it's also but yes, we needed instill some of these skills and people in girls at a very young age, but also just those life skills about when to put down the digital device and how to find the right balance in your own. You know, it's absolutely the case, you know, is the world is being re created by technology, line by line, code by code. We also need to have people who say, You know, enough already, we're not just human doings where human beings and we can do this. We can use technology to aid how we collaborate, connect, communicate. But it does not get away from that wonderful person experience the leadership, the collaboration, empathy, the social emotional parts of our life that make us human beings. And we at Girl Scouts make sure that that's part of all of our programming because we want that whole girl Well, it's just fantastic. I think you're doing some wonderful stuff. One of the challenges we also see here is how to take this. This conversation is being started in the Girl Scouts of the USA and bring it outside of Girl Scouts that the entire culture gets a little bit transform. Because I've talked at length of V. C's on this on this particular show here, where they say, Well, this is great. We just tend to look more towards the boys who are starting. These are starting up a new companies And, yeah, I know that there are women out there that are starting interesting companies, but we're probably gonna leave. How do we educate society as a whole way? We know that there are women that are doing some great things. Justus Many is. They're probably more. How do we educate societies that ever gets the message? So you know, it's so important and one of the things that our study really showed, and again it's available free online and Girl Scouts Research Institute is, you know, 1/3 of the girls really do feel like there's that gender bias that you mentioned, And so for us, it's really teaching them about not just having interest in confidence, confidence, you can do it and to have those kind of other skills that we were talking about that are so important as well. So it's not just knowing how to technically code and and how to solve a problem. But how do you sell it? How do you frame it in terms of being a solution? And when you're talking a venture capitalist, how do you help mostly him? See how he's gonna make a lot more money doing that? So, helping them great skill that, yes and so really help them understand that it isn't just solving the problem. And that's one of the things that Girl Scouts is. We have this what we call take action when you earn the badge. One of the final steps is you have to take action. So when they're learning, for example, we talked about the cyber skills. You've got to go somewhere and make something happen with it and what I love about cyber in particular, we have a girl in the air cultural area in California. She's learned the cyber skills, but she knows the tractors and combines don't even have steering wheels anymore because they're controlled by the Internet of things. And so the problem she's trying to solve is what happens to the Internet of things. What happens to our food supply when the Internet of things goes down and what happens to the sustainability? That's a great natural problem she's trying to solve when she solves it. Now she's gonna have a business. And how does she sell that to the venture capitalists? We want her to not just be able to solve the problem from a cyber, but also have the poise, the business skills, the savvy, the entrepreneurship and within the cookie program. That's how we design it. It's not just selling. It's also what are your goals? The decisions you have to make? What's a good customer service? Those air all embedded in the cookie? I need to join the Girl Scouts. Clearly. Phenomenal. That's all the time we have right now. Thank you so much. Terror, in an absolute delight talking you. Thank you for joining us. You bet. Thank you, Jeremy, when we come back, I had a great chance last week to talk to the guy at Google who heads up. They're smart speaker programs. We're bringing you that interview in just a few minutes. Please do stick around. We'll be back right after this short break. 11 years go for separation. TV is making history again. Groundbreaking Samsung Q l e d. Eight k Hey, Jeremy Caplan at the first i o T c next conference. We're talking about the Internet of things, how everything gets unified and connected. We're talking about smart speakers. You've got one everyone's got when they've taken the world by storm. What are you getting the most out of them? To find out? We got Mark States with the head of smart speakers at Google. Mark, Thanks for joining us. Thanks to me, I'm excited to be here. So do you think we're getting the most out of them? I was saying, we're not I think you're on the same board. Yeah, I think we've done a good job of establishing some court use cases, things like playing music alarms and timers. But one thing that our team is thinking about a lot is how do we make the device is kind of disappear into the background and really start to focus on those court use cases that someone's trying to solve in their home and so a question that way started. Asked them one another. And it's a really funny question like, Do you have good WiFi at home? And, of course, everyone says no. So when you start to say, Well, how do we solve that problem? That's where things like nest WiFi. It's not about building a product. It's like, How do we solve this core problem that people have at home, which is connective ity through the home? Then the next logical thing we said, Well, if you have to place these everywhere would be cool if we put the Google assistant in there, so we have that extra value. Add on top of the problem that resolving for the user's obviously about a lot more than the speaker. But the power of these things get really unlocked. You have several writers. There is one sufficient. You know what? It's efficient, I think, for some of the basic core things you need to do every day, and I think it's a great place to start. But you're right once you start to combine it with other devices, and that device even could be your phone. A great use case that I see tons of people do is that you're able to make a call home. So you're on your phone, you're on the way home and you can send a broadcast message or you can say, like, Hey, would you guys want for dinner? And that's just like 22 devices, which is your phone and a speaker. But if you have two speakers or three speakers, which there have very accessible price points, which is great, you can have this whole home audio solution. So now you're playing like great jazz throughout the house, on your controlling it from your phone or with your voice, which is really unique. One of the things that strikes me is the challenge of Discovery Building. You've got something that's a speaker. It's very obviously, but encouraging people to explore the range of features built in because of the power of a eye. Because of that assistant is that way. Do that and is that on you guys? Or is that consumers need to spend more time with their devices to figure out what they read the manual make? It is on consumers to figure it out. No, no, that's totally on us, and I think there's a few layers to it. I think the first layer. Once again we have to get away from marketing devices. And if you could help people understand what problem they're trying to solve, what a wonderful things that help you solve that problem. So one example that I give a lot is if I'm a new parent, right? One poor thing you want to do is think about how you're going to set up baby monitor. Well, a great solution that we have to that is getting this camera and get a nest hub. It's a really good solution to a baby monitor, but also allows you to see the schedule for the baby on the hub. Also, you can start to think about, you know, playing videos. They're playing music and Lalla buys. So I think there's the's use cases where the user is trying to solve a problem, and we have to be more thoughtful about positioning our products that way, not about camera or get a hub. It's like become a better parent. So there's this duality between the smart speaker and the smart phone. I think a lot of people thought for a while, the smart phone was gonna be the interface to your home. You're connected life its center. And it feels like voices really taking over Is that what you think is that the future is a merger of all of these things? Yeah, I think I think it's I think it's both. I don't think one will overtake the other, but you're right. Voice has this communal nature to it and also the interface. We've been doing it since we're extremely young. And so what's amazing to me is like my younger cousins as well as my grandmother can all use this device, and we don't have to teach them many things, right? They just start speaking to it. So the fact that you have this communal interfacing, this communal experience as well as Theo no Babel being able to take your personal device and get into the instagram or whatever other absent you wanna look at, I think they will play well together on We have to make sure they play well together because the homes are personal income. You know, they're not one of the other. It's about more than just voice, though right? These devices can detect things that are happening around us. Footsteps breaking glass, et cetera. What does that mean? What does that spell for the future of smart speakers? Is there a different path? Well, I think some of the features that you just highlighting our features that really about things like Nest aware on once again the problem. Don't worry about the devices you have. What you want to do is have peace of mind that your homes okay? And so we had a lot of users, the hat nest aware for their cameras and the next logical thing we said, Man, there's a crossover. People who have messed cameras nest aware in some are smart speakers. How do we make that Nestor where? Service Even better. And that's where things like sound sense and come in. But I think you'll see that in multiple places. Communications is another one. Where way said, there's a lot of homes that have a couple of smart speakers. What would communication looked like? And a smart speaker world. And so we start to do things like duo calling an intercom in broadcast stuff that you probably build in your house in the seventies. Now we're just like No, you can do it in this little nest mini, which is really cool. I love the emphasis on connectivity communication that seems like a feature that people don't do enough of with mark device. And that's also gets past the privacy concerns. A lot of people have just placing a call to a friend who's got What are you guys really worried about? Privacy and data, especially as we talked about devices being unified and data from various places being shared 100%. It's one of our core focuses to that point. We actually introduce something called our privacy Principles, and so you can go onto our website and you can read them because it's extremely important that we're very transparent and thoughtful because we're coming into our users home and they're inviting us in and to be invited, and we need to be a great guests. And so we need to be very thoughtful about the way that we approach privacy. We're trying to be as transparent as possible. So one last question he thought about the future of these devices or interesting to see more of them are more functionality. Yeah, I think one year will start to see a lot more of the conversation being around the problems that they solve, not just a device. I think that's one thing that's gonna be interesting. Secondly, I think you'll start to see more of these things working together in the more fluid way. Like so this news case I talked about when it comes to parenting for communications home audio. And then I think the last is you're gonna be interested to see how the phone starts to become a part of this use case in these journeys, that the user has a home because it's amazing to me that we haven't started to connect those things it, but it seems natural. Alright, there we go. Thank you, Jeremy Caplan. We have a lot of coverage of the i O T. C at digital trends dot com. So it's really fascinating to take a look at the future of smart homes and just Internet of things, technology and where it's gonna be going. Check all that out of digital trends, just like all the news we talked about today on the show. But let's talk about tomorrow on digital trends. Life senior editor Caleb Dennison Welcome to our ultimate gaming setup from a top of the line Samsung Q 90 are four K television to which console is our favorite, even a gaming chair. We might be just a little too comfortable sitting in, so that'll be tomorrow. We've got YouTube. Tech guru John Ritter will be here in studio with me to discuss what's on the horizon for five G connectivity in 2020. Now, Qualcomm's snapdragon processes are powering network transfer for information. And we'll have Brandon Webb, the co founder and CEO of a streaming service called Software Special Operations Forces, report WEBS a former U. S. Navy SEAL and best selling author, and he'll be joining editor in Chief Journey Kaplan, our New York studio, to discuss video streaming platforms. And how soft rap is differentiating itself from bigger service is like Disney Plus Who and Netflix all that. Of course, the braking technology news of the day right here on digital trends live. We subscribe and join us wherever you consume content. Go live every Monday through Friday at 9 a.m. Pacific Noon Eastern for digital trends live. I'm drag Nibbler. I'll see you right here tomorrow